510 cart questions

[Chorizo]

Well, I've had my 510 for little over a week now and I freaking love this thing, unfortunately, there's a couple of issues I have.

I use tea bags to fill the carts and have been using the same cart for the last week (my boyfriend has one too and has been using his for the same length of time as well) Anyway, I examined both of these carts today and they both have little indents in them around the top. Are they freaking melting on me?

Anyway, questions I guess

For anyone who uses a different filler- How long do you use the same cart?

And seriously, are these things melting? Because if they are, I really don't enjoy the thought of inhaling burnt plastic, I cannot imagine the health ramifications for that. Is there any way to avoid this?

Thanks, I'm fairly concerned about this.

 

[Antig]

you should have no problems if you keep the cart topped off. it might get a little hot when it runs dry

 

[Chorizo]

I keep them topped off all the time, this is why I am wondering why my cartridge is possibly burning. I only get a burining taste when I need to top it off and then it seems to go away, I am, by the way, topping this thing off all day long. It's a liquid hog.

I'm just really concerned that I am inhaling some kind of burning plastic material into my lungs, based on the condition of the carts.

 

[wegster]

Look at the way the metal wick sites. align the cart 'flat spots' to surround the wick in 'the same direction.' Hard to explain, but easy to see..if you put the cart in so it's like an 'X' or 90* off from the way the metal wick is, it's possible it may not fit properly or put pressure on the cart edges.

Just pay attention to when vapor starts decreasing, and keep topped off. I wouldn't worry about the cart or poly burning too much, but the coil is wrapped around it's own wick as well..just keep things moist.

 

[Anonomo]

Can you post a pic? It's hard to tell what you are describing. If you are melting your cart you'd definitely taste it. Another person posted a pic of a cart meltdown and there was no mistaking it. Do any new unused carts have this indentation?

I don't switch carts very often, I use the same one for 4 or 5 days or more and top it off. I have a set of 6 carts that I clean and refill every two weeks or so. I'm finding that they are wearing out from use, they don't fit as tight and snug as before and are starting to leak. Time to toss these and break out a new set.

 

[Chorizo]

weg- I get what you mean about aligning it a certain way and actually tried that last night. I used a cart with polyfill instead of a teabag and it looked bad after one night of use. I keep it tooped off all the time, and I drip often.

Anon- I don't think I could post a picture that would actually show the damage. It just looks like little V shaped indentations. The new cart it's on two sides instead of just one. I don't think I TASTE plastic, I just get that burning taste whenever I need to top off, which could be the cart melting, but I don't know why I'd only taste it when it needs more juice.

My boyfriend says he's never had the burning taste and his cart still looks like that. It doesn't look like meliting necessarily, it looks more like some tiny little creature bit it, as the indents are V shaped and look sharp, I guess, I don't know how to descride it.

I'm just pretty concerned I'll have to ask my sister for my 901 stuff back, lol. I don't want to, I like the 510, besides the possibility that I could be inhaling melted plastic fumes regularly, and that mysterious burning taste.

 

[FRESH x913x]

i know what your talking about! my 510 does the same thing to the carts. the only thing i can think of that would be causing this is accidentally nicking it on the atomizer edge. it lines up perfectly to the notches in the cart.

 

[Chorizo]

I know. It looks the same on both carts. But I don't slam the cart in there, I push it in nicely, I'm gentle! So I don't imagine pushing it in with enough force to nick it really, they go in so easily.

One looks like it MIGHT be melting. I just looked really carefully.

How hot do these things burn? I never get the atomizer so hot I couldn't touch it, or even close to that hot.

Do they burn hot enough to melt the plastic?

 

[FRESH x913x]

maybe the metal ring down inside the atomizer could get hot enough to melt it but not hot to the touch on the outside? another possibility is, i have taken the cart off right after drawing to check an make sure it doesnt need to be topped off, maybe the heat made the plastic cart soft enough to make the marks from the top of the atomizer. this is the only other thing i can think of.

just like you i dont slam them either but i do hit the rim of the atomizer every now and then, BUT then again why would it be just the 1 v mark on both side of the cart? i know i have hit more then once on the edge of the atomizer and theres no way i hit in the same spot every time! confused by this.

also get that burned taste when it needs to be topped off and as soon as i do its gone

 

[Chorizo]

I know, I don't use it TOO heavily and I find I am topping this thing off constantly. I've never smelled burning plastic or tasted it, I don't think, but I'm really concerned that it's melting. WHY it would only melt in one or two places is also weird, not so sure about that.

But I've come to the conclusion, that, in my case, the burning taste is not burning plstic, it's burning whatever material I have in my cart as a filler, I guess, I'm not sure what else would produce this burning taste unless SOMETHING IS BURNING!!!!!!

Darn faulty technology. I love my yeti otherwise though. Of course, anything I end up enjoying thoroughly will eventually kill me.

 

[enrogae]

I've only had my 510 for a few days and 3 of the 5 carts that I've opened have melted along the flat edges. At first it didn't look like melting, but the more it does it the more you realize it's melting. It only does this (for me) when the cart is getting dry. I think part of that nasty burnt taste is the cart as well as the dry filler. Another thing that I think it is is this fuzzy stuff underneath the bridge of the atomizer. On one atomizer I can actually see the stuff sticking out from underneath the atomizer. I think when it dries out and heats that fibrous material it is burning and causing the nasty taste.

I think that burning taste is going to prevent me from using my 510 as a regular device. I just can't stand that nasty taste. As deep as this cart is, I have to refill it more often than I have to drip on my m401 atomizer when I'm not even using a cart with it! The 510 has a good hit and good vapor but the 401 is nearly as good once you break it in and it doesn't have that nasty burnt taste. I've also never melted a cart on my 401...


I think this atomizer just gets too hot unless you stop for like 1-2 full minutes between drags...and I just vape more frequently than that while I'm using it. Switching atomizers between hits is just a little too inconvenient for me. I was hopeful for this 510 because of the PCC...I guess I'll just have to wait for the 401 PCC to come out. :/

Oh, and everytime I fill a cart (I haven't been overfilling) I have liquid coming out between the battery and the atomizer...even if I don't completely fill the cart. So far I am rather frustrated with this device...it doesn't seem to be designed very well. The carts sits too closely to the atomizer and the atomizer doesn't seal well to the battery.

 

[Chorizo]

I noticed that fuzzy stuff on the otomizer as well and wondered the same thing about it.

I really like this device (not to mention the amount of money I've dropped on this recently) and would hate to have to switch to something else, especially assuming nothing else is going to work as well as this (and not look ridiculous) and again, the amount of money I am going to have to spend on a new device.

The burning taste is awful, but it's more alarming than anything else, and the melting carts, yeah, that's cool, I'm inhaling plastic fumes. I ALSO got my boyfriend on to inhaling plastic fumes as well, so I feel bad about THAT. So if I didn't see the melting cartidge and get that damn burning taste, I would be all about this thing. Unfortunately, I can't reccomend it to anyone anymore after that.

I'll still use it, but probably only as long as it takes to find out melting the cartridge and getting the burning taste is unavoidable. I'm going to try to give the thing a break and not let the atomizer get too hot at all and see if that does anything for it.

This sucks. I like my 510!

 

[enrogae]

I don't dislike it...maybe slightly disappointed is all. I can tell there is a learning curve to it, just like with any other model. I'm trying to use it every now and then between my m401 (which I still love) but I already had to get a washrag out to keep nearby to wipe the unit off everytime it leaks.

 

[a2dcovert]

Are you inserting the carts with the flat side parallel to the wire mesh wick? If not the cart will melt where it touches the wire mesh.

Kevin

 

[Chorizo]

I don't have the leakage problem. Befor I read all the rave reviews about the 510, my next purchase was going to be a 401. If I can't manage to figure out this melting cart/burning taste crap, that's what I am going with next, I think. I liked my 901, but I had to fuss with it too much. The 510 is so much more convenient, but that burning plastic thing is a deal breaker for me. I got off analogs to be healthier, not to inhale burning plastic fumes.

I've got a few different things I am planning on trying before giving up entirely on the 510, but then I'm going to go for a 401 next if this isn't working.

I already gave away all the 901 crap I had to my sister, kinda jumping the gun as I did it the the DAY I got my Yeti, otherwise I would go back to that.

Grand total spent so far on e-cigs- $354, roughly. I CAN NOT AFFORD THIS! lol. IT'S BEEN ONE MONTH!

 

[Chorizo]

Kevin- I had just begun to do this today, I am REALLY hoping it works.

 

[a2dcovert]

It's a shame that there aren't good clear instruction on how to use these products. If you study the cart you will notice that the cart's position in the atty is the key to best air flow and thus the best vapor production. Also this issue may be responsible for the burnt plastic smell users have been complaining about.

Kevin

 

[KreeL]

I've only had my 510 for a few days and 3 of the 5 carts that I've opened have melted along the flat edges. At first it didn't look like melting, but the more it does it the more you realize it's melting. It only does this (for me) when the cart is getting dry. I think part of that nasty burnt taste is the cart as well as the dry filler. Another thing that I think it is is this fuzzy stuff underneath the bridge of the atomizer. On one atomizer I can actually see the stuff sticking out from underneath the atomizer. I think when it dries out and heats that fibrous material it is burning and causing the nasty taste.

I think that burning taste is going to prevent me from using my 510 as a regular device. I just can't stand that nasty taste. As deep as this cart is, I have to refill it more often than I have to drip on my m401 atomizer when I'm not even using a cart with it! The 510 has a good hit and good vapor but the 401 is nearly as good once you break it in and it doesn't have that nasty burnt taste. I've also never melted a cart on my 401...


I think this atomizer just gets too hot unless you stop for like 1-2 full minutes between drags...and I just vape more frequently than that while I'm using it. Switching atomizers between hits is just a little too inconvenient for me. I was hopeful for this 510 because of the PCC...I guess I'll just have to wait for the 401 PCC to come out. :/

Oh, and everytime I fill a cart (I haven't been overfilling) I have liquid coming out between the battery and the atomizer...even if I don't completely fill the cart. So far I am rather frustrated with this device...it doesn't seem to be designed very well. The carts sits too closely to the atomizer and the atomizer doesn't seal well to the battery.

It's a good thing the atomizer doesn't seal to the battery. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to draw through it.

It's simple folks. If juice is coming out where the battery connects, you are either a) flooding the atomizer b) overfilling the carts c) both. If you think you are melting the cart you are either a) getting the atomizer way beyond normal working temperatures by chuffing b) holding the button down for extended periods of time c) both.

This is what makes the 510 special, it's not dummy-proof.

 

[Chorizo]

Okay, right. Yeah, there's these moments I actually TAKE MY FINGER OFF THE BUTTON. I would actually say for the good majority of the day I don't have my finger on that button. I do not leave my finger on the switch when I'm not trying to hit the thing.

I would say I use it fairly moderately throughout the day and my atomizer actually doesn't get very hot. My drags last no longer than five seconds for the most part, I'm not dealing with a scorching hot atomizer here.

So, even though I'm just a dummy here, I would probably have to say that through none of the above mentioned scenarios have I managed to melt the cart. There could be something ELSE, but I am not using the heck out of this thing or letting it get too hot. I fill my carts appropriately and drip the same way.

 

[enrogae]

I'm not over-filling the cart. The cart is appropriately positioned. I am not getting the atomizer way beyond normal temperatures. I'm not a dummy and this isn't my first e-cig. I'm not the most experienced user, but I do have some idea what I'm doing. I've gotten better flavor using my 510 by using Fluval...I had to experiment a bit with the tightness with which I packed it so that it still had a good draw. Anyways...the burned taste/melting carts is still an issue as is leaking.

Perhaps it/I will get better at it...but I'm having to deal with it a lot more on this model than any of my others -- and as much as you are quick to point it out as user error, KreeL, that doesn't change the fact that if the product was designed better none of this initial hassle would be required. A good e-cig produces good vapor and taste with minimal effort. That is something the 510 cannot boast to.

None of my other models leak no matter how much I overfill the cart...they might spit juice into my mouth (until I get used to that model's carts) but never leak. I also haven't had to figure out how to get it to stop leaking by trying different filling/liquid levels (because the others have never leaked). Obviously there is a way to seal something inside the atomizer to prevent this from occurring -- I didn't mean a complete seal with no holes to allow air flow at all.

I'm not saying this isn't a good unit. It has excellent throat hit and produces really decent amounts of vapor for it's size. It does have it's faults though, and I have to be objective when I comment about it.