510 connector on the lavatube is not as good as others?

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zoiDman

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That brings back old memories Zoid

Yeah... That wasn't the Only time I got Stung by a Malfunctioning CE2(E2).

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The dumbest, and possibly the most embarrassing thing I ever did was put my PV with a full E2 carto in my pants pocket before doing a Power Point presentation in front of about 60 people.

Needless to say, the carto leaked and by the time I felt it I had a nice wet spot about 2” from my pants zipper.
 

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I am guessing these are easily removed due to it being plastic end caps. I know you have use less expensive parts to make a product that can be sold cheaper than others, but how much more could it possibly cost to make aluminum end caps on these things... when I got mine, that was the first thing I noticed. I also noticed some "play" on the battery end where the plastic meets the aluminum underneath.

Don't be surprised if that plastic endcap comes completely off of the battery end. Mine did the first day I had it. Luckily, a little dab of super glue works wonders.
 

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Are we starting to see the difference from the $70 compared to the $150 Provari here Boyz ?
Did you perhaps mean...
"$70 compared to the $225 and up provari"? (provari $159 + charger $20 + batteries $10 + extended 18650 cap $25 + atty and driptip $10)
There. Fixed that for you.

Disclaimer: I own both mods, this is not trollbait, I just HAD to clarify this cheap comparison :)
 
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Did you perhaps mean...
"$70 compared to the $225 and up provari"? (provari $159 + charger $20 + batteries $10 + extended 18650 cap $25 + atty and driptip $10)
There. Fixed that for you.

Disclaimer: I own both mods, this is not trollbait, I just HAD to clarify this cheap comparison :)

Did you mean the 90 some odd dollars for the up Lavatube? Not to mention the wait time for new batteries if you ordered the fake ones (I know my time isn't worth zero dollars).

Not a trollbait, but HAD to make clarify.
 

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I don't think it's the fact they use plastic end caps or the fact that's it's a less expensive mod compared to the Provari.. it's just a fluke. There are tons of plastic mods like my Old Goat 5 v box mod that don't have connector problems and it's just a 35 dollar mod.

Google Provari and you will see reviews of people that had their Provari break 2 or 3 times. Is the Provari less likely to break than the Lava Tube? I think that still remains to be seen.. neither one has been out very long. Then again you can replace the Lava Tube 4 times over for less that you could the Provari after the two year Provari warranty runs out.

I'm going to follow these threads cus I'd like to get one by February. Hopefully this is not the norm.
 

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Bsse unit Lavatube is $70 at Volcano, base unit Provari is $159 at Provape, so for kicks & giggles lets just call the Provari twice as much, not 4 times as much, you need charger & Batts for each. I will still take my Provari over the Lava anyday of the week. And yes any unit can fail, as far as customer service goes Provape is one of the best out there, and even out of Warranty Dave at Provape is super fair to fix a unit. I would like to see what people are going to do when there Lava tube breaks once Warranty is up as well, Provari is a much more solid unit by far then LavaTube, plus if something happens to my Provari I know 2yrs down the road I can send it to Provape and have it back in about a week and like new again. Nothing against the Lavatube though its a great " CHEAP" VV unit, but you get what you pay for with anything. Fit, finish, USA made, Provari wins in my book. No trolling, just my personal opinion, where all welcome to those.
 
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Back to cartos. If you want to try something neat, go for the Ikenvapes 801 fusion 2.5 ohm carto, with a 510/801 adapter. Just a really nice carto. If you choose to get the 510/801 adapter at Ikenvape, please note that they sell 3 kinds, and one specifically has a note saying not to use it (that particular adapter) with fusions.
 

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mwa102464, your right. I didn't mean to say 4 times as much. I meant to say, it would take you a whole 4 years of having to replace the Lava Tube each year to equal what you spend on the Provari one time. In the long run, the two year Provari warranty will have run out leaving you high and dry. But you will still not have spent it's equal, if you had to keep replacing a Lava Tube into the other 2 years. Price wise, with the Lava Tube, you still come out on top. This is assuming the Provari 2 year warranty is End of Life of the product if it breaks and you cannot get them to replace it for free.

Based on my logic here:

List price for the Provari is 200 dollars not including batteries, atomizer and charger. If you want those, (and they ARE needed) you have to pay an additional 12 for the batteries, 9 for the atomizer, and 17 for the charger. for a total of 236. Then if you wanted to use 18650 batteries add another 20 to that for the extended cap. for 256. It has a 1 year warranty. You can get an extended 1 year warranty for a total of 2 years, for another 25 bucks, so we are up to 281.00.

Lets say you buy all this and 2 years and one day goes by and you do something unthinkable - you drop it off the Hoover Dam. To replace it, you have to spend another 300 dollars.

You could have bought 4 Lava Tubes for that price. 70 x 4 = 280. ( the Lava Tube has everything if you buy the kit for an extra 30 dollars- batteries, atomizer, charger included in the kit. So you would be having to replace it 3 times if you needed the whole kit - It can already use the 18650 batteries without an extended cap and has a 1 year warranty)

Looking at it that way, just to have the ability to vape from 3 to 6 volts is it really worth it? Seems to me it's not. Either way you look at it the rugged durability of the Provari will not equal out the cost comparison to the Lava Tube.

This would only equal the Lava Tube if the Lava Tube died every 6 months and I doubt it will plus that's not gonna happen with the 1 year warranty.

*** It would take you a whole 4 years of having to replace the Lava Tube to equal what you spend on the Provari one time.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...than-provari-video-opinion-5.html#post4789170

You say, "I would like to see what people are going to do when there Lava tube breaks once Warranty is up as well,"

Answer: They simply replace the unit with no skin off their teeth.

Likewise. I would like to see what Provari owners will do when the Provari breaks after the two year warranty and they realize they could have bought and replaced if needed a Lava Tube many times over for lesser price. They would have a " I could have had a V8" moment.

If anything, these setbacks of the Lava tube will cause the company to make them better. They have already corrected and solved some of the problems with the first batch of lava tubes. They will probably continue to improve on it. Remember the Provari also had it's time of trial and error as they refined it to the product we have today.
 
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I haven't tried it cus I don't have a Lava Tube but I think I know how you folks can fix the draw problem.

Get a tiny washer to slip over the carto's threaded end. This will take up a lil space making the bottom of your carto threaded part not touch the center connection inside the connector. Next get one of those tiny metal disks they sell to put inside the connector to make the threaded carto end make the connection. Make sure the metal disk is centered and NOT touching the sides as this may create a short. Or insulate the sides somehow.

All this is doing it raising up the whole thing so the air slots are more open. You should get a good draw now. I have done this trick on passthroughs and it works fine if you can find the right size washer and metal disk. I think this can be done cheaper and look better than having an adapter on the unit.
 
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mwa102464, your right. I didn't mean to say 4 times as much. I meant to say, it would take you a whole 4 years of having to replace the Lava Tube each year to equal what you spend on the Provari one time. In the long run, the two year Provari warranty will have run out leaving you high and dry. But you will still not have spent it's equal, if you had to keep replacing a Lava Tube into the other 2 years. Price wise, with the Lava Tube, you still come out on top. This is assuming the Provari 2 year warranty is End of Life of the product if it breaks and you cannot get them to replace it for free.

And heres what gets me. Its 70 for a lavatube, and 159 for a provari. So if you replaced the lavatube and the end of the year (because of the year warranty expiring in this hypothetical situation) then you would have spent 140 dollars total, compared to the provari at 159 with a two year warranty. Then you factor in shipping for the second one, so 145 aprox. So you saved yourself a grand total of 14 dollars. So to say its so much less expensive to by a lavatube is a outright lie. So stop it.
 

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are we really arguing over who's Daddy can beat up who's Daddy? cmon now...

Nope.

My Daddy can't Beat up Anyone Daddy's that I know of.

But it does get old to see the same Posts follow me around the ECF when Ever there is a Lavatube thread.

Guess it's just m. So I'll Unsubscribe even though I know the Rhetorical "Come Back" is coming.

I don't have to have the last word when it Really isn't an Argument Anyway.
 

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Jebus. Is this how it's going to be on every Lavatube thread? The Provari is better?

Just got mine today and while I haven't had an issue with the connector (besides it being a little crooked, which is easily fixed.) the button sticks. Contacted Volcano and they jumped on the problem right away, and are in the process of setting up an RMA. That's the big thing with a device like this. We know the quality isn't going to be the same as the more expensive competitors, but if the Customer Service is there then we still win, and save some $$$ too.
 

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When I started this thread, I didn't want it to be a bash fest. I like the Lavatube, I like my Provari(s). In my original post, I mentioned the EGO 510 connector being better as well. It was just an observation. The Lavatube is the only 510 connector on devices I have had that just seems to have a tigher draw.. I have had a provape-1 and a BB as well.
 
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