A bit of a Rant and an Observation (People first, not Products!)

[Arnie H]

Many very intelligent posts and replies. I thank you for them.

I have been on many e-cig forums (some of which I have been banned from ), and I have explored all the forums here, I have discovered "The Lounge" and "Outside", etc. I am sort of sitting back and taking the entire thing in view, and there does seem to me to be some pre-ocupation with or emphasis on the devices rather than on the people. I care for my fellow ECF members, and it is because I care that I have said what I said, and I stand by it. I find myself guilty of this as well (and I just ordered two more tanks). You know, sometimes we just don't see the forest for the trees, as they say. They are wonderful devices, that much is certain.

 

[S1LV3R]

Thanks for the replies. Here is another thing that I find disturbing. If we as vapers are so "people focused" how come only a handful of members took a minute to say thank you to the 2 people responsible for making electronic cigarettes a reality? The two people I am talking about are Mr. Gilbert and Mr. Lik. Here are the threads again:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/453599-honor-mr-hon-lik-thank-you-thread.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/453616-honor-mr-gilbert-thank-you-thread.html

If a man creates or invents a device which may well be responsible for saving our lives, should we not honor them in some way? Is saying thank you too much?

There are thousands of members here but only a handful have anything to say?

Is it apathy? Is it ignorance (people not knowing who they are)? Are we too busy with other topics, toys, and gadgets? Do people think it is "corny"? These men are very much the fathers of modern vaping, should we not show our respect in some way?

The lack of responses to these threads reinforced for me my opening question and observation about where our priorities seem to be. And as God is my witness, I tell you truly, it makes me feel ashamed to be a vaper.

Ok its my turn for a rant. i read through this entire thread and fully take offense to your opening post. I found this one after looking at the 2 up above. Both of which you posted the same exact thing within minutes of each other.

"Wow, it sure is quiet here. I really thought more people would respond, I guess only a small minority of vapers hold these two men in the same esteem that me and a few others do. It makes me sad, because without them we'd probably still be smokin' the cancer sticks. I do not know if tis apathy, or people are just too busy to take a moment, or we are just so busy with our vaping toys and gadgets, we forget the people and spend our time focusing on the products. Well, ya can't say I didn't try."

You should have just come out and said what you meant instead of being condescending and passive aggressive in your initial OP. You are PO'd that people didnt post on your other 2 threads!!! Some of us have lives and dont delve into the depths of who made it, why it was made. We dont praise Nikola Tesla daily for AC, etc!! We are just happy that we arent smoking and use what time we can to help others and console others when things dont go right.

Have you never shown off your "new car" Or "newest thing" to others?? Sure you have. When you showed ur car did you give praise to Henry Ford...i seriously doubt it. So dont come down on us when we dont bow down to the almighty ECig making gods!!!

/end rant

Silver

 

[peterforpats]

i am no expert but I am pretty sure without the "devices" you wouldn't have any people to talk to- I vape and come to the forum to get ideas and thoughts about vaping and the products. it may be nice to know if you have pets, hobbies or anything else but it wouldn't bring me back to a forum about e-cigs. I think you are looking for a different forum..........

 

[Bliss Doubt]

The only way I could have (and Did!) quit analogs was by making this a new hobby--

Whether we like it or not, vaping becomes a hobby, or a sport. The sport is "chasing the dragon". Your battery is whatever was recommended to you. It lasts a long time, so you live with it. Your clearomizer leaks so you try another brand. Your juice starts vaping like cement so you find a different brand of clearo and buy a few of those. Then you find out the high VG content of your healthy all natural ejuice is causing the cement effect, so you get higher pg. Your second brand of clearomizer leaks and is fussy and hard to fill, so you try a big bottom fill kind and buy a few of those. You ruin one or two of them with strong juices, so you buy some more. Then you find bottom coil changeable ones and buy those. You buy bunches of replacement coil bases. Then you find out you can just buy a base and change only the coil part, so you buy a few bases and a few coils. Then your juice starts vaping like a cement again, even though you have ditched your all natural healthy juices in favor of 80 percent pg. You find out that buttery, sugary flavored "dessert vapes" kill your coils. You want more batteries just because they're bigger and stronger, or prettier, so you dream of next year when your batteries finally die. Those new pyrex clearomizers! You want some. You're sure you are down to five eliquid flavors that you'll reorder, ignore any new ones and start saving money finally, but then you find some new site that has gourmet liquids in flavors you just have to try. Sampler packs start arriving. Some of the new flaves crust your coils and get pitched. You start to need a vape shelf for your supplies, then a vape drawer, then a vape box, vape cabinet. Is there any vape furniture out there yet?

Stop me any time.

 

[Bliss Doubt]

We dont praise Nikola Tesla daily for AC...

Is that who invented air conditioning?

Kidding.

 

[THETOTALLYCOOL]

Did someone say,

Nicola!

 

[S1LV3R]

Did someone say,

Nicola!

Thats Nikola Tesla's rarely discussed brother, Rikola!!!

HAHA

 

[The Ocelot]

 

[SharonMM]

Love will find a way.... I know.

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[S1LV3R]

Love will find a way.... I know.

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Love Tesla!!! Our little hodgepodge band opened for them at Licorice Pizza in Modesto back in 87!!

For you Sharon



They are gonna be at the fresno fair. Gonna seem them for the 8th time!!

 

[tnt56]

Love your new avatar Robino1. You both look so happy. And one again I tip my hat to all the Ladies and Gentlemen in the room.
(The Army thread got so big I lost the ability to keep focused and still maintain my sanity. LOL.)
Cheers my Lady.

 

[Penn]

Love will find a way.... I know.

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I wonder how many people would have seen what you did there if silv3r didn't post that vid. I was going to do something similar to this.

Silv3r, I met Tommy when they were still a "new" band opening for Alice Cooper. Cool guy.


ETA - Oops, saying I met Tommy is about people and this thread is supposed to be about product??

 

[S1LV3R]

I wonder how many people would have seen what you did there if silv3r didn't post that vid. I was going to do something similar to this.

Silv3r, I met Tommy when they were still a "new" band opening for Alice Cooper. Cool guy.


ETA - Oops, saying I met Tommy is about people and this thread is supposed to be about product??

Oops i didnt mean to blow the inuendo....my bad

 

[EddardinWinter]

Robin's Avatar is always awesome looking


...if it's a pic with her in it!

 

[tnt56]

Robin's Avatar is always awesome looking


...if it's a pic with her in it!

And once again I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE LION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[vapero]

it my time to derail someone else's thread with tacos

 

[WattWick]

That's not a taco! But it may well be a successful derailment with its lack of proper taconess.

 

[tnt56]

Darn it looks good enough to eat!!!!!!!!

 

[Racehorse]

Is there any vape furniture out there yet?

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[SharonMM]

Love Tesla!!! Our little hodgepodge band opened for them at Licorice Pizza in Modesto back in 87!!

For you Sharon



They are gonna be at the fresno fair. Gonna seem them for the 8th time!!

Never saw them in concert, but I had their patch on my frosted jean jacket. I was but a wee fifth grader in '87.

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