A mod is not a mod !!!

[zapped]

I understand what youre saying here and I agree to a point.

Electronic cigarettes, pvs, mods etc are all part of component system. The trick is to find juices, delivery systems and "mods" or batteries that all work well together. Even a small change like going to a higher blend of pg, or changing your clearo to a carto tank or vice versa can make a HUGE difference.

A lot of people are quick to blame their juice or say it tastes off when it could be as simple as their choice of batteries or some other small change they havent taken into account.

Good reviewers review the mods special features and list the plusses as well as the minuses of a device so you can figure out one piece to the puzzle.

That being said, a setup that works EXTREMELY well for me is listed below.

Provari V2 with 18650 extension cap (regulated, variable voltage with longer battery life and no danger from stacked batteries)

IbTanked or Phiniac Pyrex tank with smoktek 2.0ohm laser punched cartos (no worries about juice cracking my tank or plastic leeching or imparting flavors into my juice, awesome flavor and taste with my juice)

Alien Visions Hype (10/90 pg vg blend that tastes like Peach Schnapps or Peach Rings candy, I feel that vg is healthier in the long run and produces huge clouds of vapor...this blend also is vapable by those with a pg allergy and is friendlier to/wicks better in my carto tanks.)

 

[Baditude]

I have a very similar setup as Zapped with which I am extremely happy with:

Provari v2 with 18650 extension cap (for same reasons).

IBTanked pyrex tanks with either Ikenvape Platinum or Smoketech 3.0 ohm single coil laser punched cartos (for the same reasons; plus I prefer a cooler vape).

Virgin Vapors and Vaperite e-juices because they offer either 100%vg or choice of blended pg/vg ratios and all organic flavoring which I feel provide a truer and cleaner flavor.

 

[myxomatosis]

The quest to find the perfect vape is tiring at times.

I get what you're saying, even with PWM and different ways to achieve a very specific voltage - batteries are batteries. Some are definitely more consistent - but I get where this guy is coming from. Finding a battery that works for you is easy. Mods, egos, 808's, 510's, whatever - they do their job. It's frustrating failing to find what works. I've never tried more things that fail to work as advertised in any other arena. I was a huge fan of the Vivi Nova when it hit the market - loved it. I ordered several and they worked like a charm for a couple weeks, then it all started going wrong on ALL of my units around the same time. Different juice, same mod, but no problems with anything else. Leaking, dry hits, weak vape: you name it my Vivi's have done it. I was in bliss for those 2 weeks before that happened. Now I'm back to square one, using Boge cartos that leak around the bottom every time I fill them. They hit consistently though. I'd love to hear some suggestions..

I still smoke cigarettes from time to time and envy the instant gratification and consistancy I used to enjoy regularly. It's hard to come from that ease-of-use to trying to sort out what hardware isn't .

 

[Heavyrocker]

Is it only me ??

but am so tried of watching reviews were they review a new mod, make a song and dance and then do the classic line "lets see what it vapes like" and pull out any old cart screw it on and go... oh thats good, that makes all the difference the flavour the th so much better!! Guys a mod doesn't vape... It's only a bloody battery.

They dismiss the cart etc... They dismiss the business end, the only part that we all have issues with, no flavour, burnt taste, juice in the mouth, not enough vapour, leaking etc etc The most important part is just dismissed !!!

In fact next time your reviewing a mod, don't put anything on it, just stick it in your mouth and suck until your eyes pop out and tell me how good it vapes

An old cart at 3.7volts on a £7 plain jane ego will vape just as crap as 3.7volts on a £180 provari

lets get serious for a change, and focus on the business end of our ecigs

rant over... I have been trying to find the best e cig all my searches show are the best batteries, for you what is the best ecig and I mean the business end and not the battery that just powers your ecig

Sounds like your going tru tobacco withdrawl,no offence.

 

[zapped]

The quest to find the perfect vape is tiring at times.

I get what you're saying, even with PWM and different ways to achieve a very specific voltage - batteries are batteries. Some are definitely more consistent - but I get where this guy is coming from. Finding a battery that works for you is easy. Mods, egos, 808's, 510's, whatever - they do their job. It's frustrating failing to find what works. I've never tried more things that fail to work as advertised in any other arena. I was a huge fan of the Vivi Nova when it hit the market - loved it. I ordered several and they worked like a charm for a couple weeks, then it all started going wrong on ALL of my units around the same time. Different juice, same mod, but no problems with anything else. Leaking, dry hits, weak vape: you name it my Vivi's have done it. I was in bliss for those 2 weeks before that happened. Now I'm back to square one, using Boge cartos that leak around the bottom every time I fill them. They hit consistently though. I'd love to hear some suggestions..

I still smoke cigarettes from time to time and envy the instant gratification and consistancy I used to enjoy regularly. It's hard to come from that ease-of-use to trying to sort out what hardware isn't .

Id give carto tanks a try. You can find some very good info by looking at Baditudes most recent posts.

 

[denali_41]

Thanks for your reply, the thread is about the fact that far too much focus is placed on the battery, which is then called a mod, when in fact what's been modded, what's new ? still only a battery they all do the same thing, power the important bit of an e cig which is broadly speaking dismissed as un important when in fact they are more important that a battery be it vv or not

I've had several different mec mods and various variable V\W mods..

i absolutely hate PWM mods,,
not all mec mods are created equal either,my avatar is by far the hardest hitter of all the ones i've tried
mosfet is actually a good system believe it or not ,,

if you find something that is constant and you can adjust it the way "you" want it then you will be content ,,

 

[Jerms]

Thanks for your reply, the thread is about the fact that far too much focus is placed on the battery, which is then called a mod, when in fact what's been modded, what's new ? still only a battery they all do the same thing, power the important bit of an e cig which is broadly speaking dismissed as un important when in fact they are more important that a battery be it vv or not

I think you're confused about what a mod is. The mod is the battery casing, which contains the electronics, the threading, and the options. Batteries are what you put into the mod to provide power. Even with batteries some types and brands work better than others. I use an eGo twist, which I wouldn't consider a mod, and refer to it as the battery, even tho it's really a battery casing with an unremovable rechargable battery. When the batt dies, the eGo is dead. With mods when the rechargable batteries no longer work you just replace the battery. Cheaper in the long run, but I like my Twists at this point.

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[Orobas]

Lol, your provari rant made me giggle.

I don't know who it is you're watching but there's a lot of vidyas about the delivery systems out there. Pbusardo's recent "clearomizer shootout" made me finally take the leap and order two kanger t3s.

While true, not all mods or batteries are created equal, I'm not personally impressed by a forced bravado facade covering buyer's remorse, myself. I'd rather make a mod out of a hair dryer. It's statistically impossible for anything to live up to that much hype.

I'm still happy with ego style batteries after 8 months.

 

[Jerms]

As some side info, mods came about because in the beginning of ecigs that's exactly what the were, modified flashlights, wooden boxes, Altoid boxes etc. Anything that uses batteries or could be fitted to use batteries could be modded into an ecig. These were made in peoples homes and sometimes made into small batches to be sold by the mechanically inclined. Eventually, the demand for ecigs with changable batteries exploded and the term mod is now used to call any battery housing that's mass produced, even tho it hasn't been modded from a previous device. Some refer to any batt, like an eGo, as a mod, but I normally don't.

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[Jonny2400]

Sounds like your going tru tobacco withdrawl,no offence.

Am really not !!

i know this for a fact, in Aug this year my 49 yr mother passed away suddenly and I never reached for anything other than my ecig.

but thanks to a couple of the guys above posts I now have some good stuff to research .

i was just getting cross at other people's replys to what's the best ecig ATM

and you all know the replys I was getting !!!

you feel like asking, oh right the best ecig is a provari, so how does this work ?

"do I pour my e juice into my provari before I put the battery in or just top it up with the battery in, and what end of the provari do I put in my mouth"

 

[Absintheur]

Not all "mods" are created equal, a purely mechanical mods has battery falloff starting from the first puff on a new battery. A regulated mods sloves that issue for the most part. Some juices taste better when they are vaped hotter, a 5 volt mod does that easily, and an VV like the ProVari allows you to best tunes the mod to your vaping style and juice.

The carto/atty is important as well. I prefer Ikenvape single coil carto and they are much better quality than a prefilled carto will ever be. Their IO6 and 510 Cannon attys are great as well. But having a device that will supply a constant amount of power to them is important for flavor and vapor over time.

Just as all cartos/attys are created equal, not all mods are just battery holders.

 

[Jonny2400]

The carto/atty is important as well. I prefer Ikenvape single coil carto and they are much better quality than a prefilled carto will ever be. Their IO6 and 510 Cannon attys are great as well. But having a device that will supply a constant amount of power to them is important for flavor and vapor over time.

Again this is a classic example... While the gentleman makes some good points, the carto/atty is important, it's not important it's critical ... !!!

again by and large the carto/atty is what makes the vapor/favour . While having constant or variable power source helps you fine tune your set up, that I agree with, 5v from this vs 5v from that is pretty much the same ! The enjoyment of your vape is heavy depended on the part that turn your e liquid into vaper.

Do you know what... I give up lol

For those that understand my point (why you no back me up) lol for the rest, remember buy great batteries / mods and great juice and the cheapest carto money can buy as they are just for show and don't really play and part in your vaping experience . If there is no vapour up the voltage, if you have leaking issues just up the voltage, if you can't get any favour just up the voltage , if that does work... Then just buy a new mod 11.1 volts should fix it

 

[Ray D]

While having constant or variable power source helps you fine tune your set up, that I agree with, 5v from this vs 5v from that is pretty much the same !

It really isn't. That's the point. Some are not accurate. Some are not consistent. Some cannot deliver the power under load.

That's like saying all 2.0 ohm atties are the same. All LR cartos are the same. All clearos are the same. They all do the same thing, so they're the same, right?

Clearly they are not. Some are better than others and will deliver much better results. Agreed. Same can be said with the power sources.

(and that's not even factoring into the whole "YMMV" and personal preference stuff)

 

[hugrem]

i DO agree mama mia !

 

[tj99959]

You never have enough "mods" laying around the house. Just the feel of the thing in your hand changes the vaping experience. Things from air flow to how frustrating the menu is if it's an APV all make a difference.
When Phil reviews a PV I pay more attention to what he lists as "thumbs down" than anything else. As for what atty/carto/clearo he uses, I only perk up when he mentions that something doesn't work on the mod.

 

[shatner]

Is it only me ??

but am so tried of watching reviews were they review a new mod, make a song and dance and then do the classic line "lets see what it vapes like" and pull out any old cart screw it on and go... oh thats good, that makes all the difference the flavour the th so much better!! Guys a mod doesn't vape... It's only a bloody battery.

They dismiss the cart etc... They dismiss the business end, the only part that we all have issues with, no flavour, burnt taste, juice in the mouth, not enough vapour, leaking etc etc The most important part is just dismissed !!!

In fact next time your reviewing a mod, don't put anything on it, just stick it in your mouth and suck until your eyes pop out and tell me how good it vapes

An old cart at 3.7volts on a £7 plain jane ego will vape just as crap as 3.7volts on a £180 provari

lets get serious for a change, and focus on the business end of our ecigs

rant over... I have been trying to find the best e cig all my searches show are the best batteries, for you what is the best ecig and I mean the business end and not the battery that just powers your ecig

I agree with this. It's a freaking battery tube/box! A mod is a turbocharger slapped on an old beater, or an engine back exhaust on a truck.

I don't know what it is about the vape community and stupid names slapped on .....

 

[DancingHeretik]

There are 2 main reasons to make such a fuss over a battery mod.

Above all is the inadequacies of whatever you're already using. That can be because you simply need more voltage or because of poor quality/workmanship. Such a fuss is made of new and better largely because the originals were so poorly made or thought out, kind of slapped together. The newest and greatest is simply slowly approaching adequate and reliable.

The second reason is the coolness factor.

A battery mod, in theory, is pretty boring. It's just a power source. It seems it should be simple. But, as I learned many years ago, quality is what costs the most and the hardest to find.

Now juice and atties, that should be the exciting part! In theory, anyway.

BTW, in the car analogy, I see the fuel and carburetor as the battery mod and the engine as the atty system.

 

[tc1]

When people review pvs ... they use devices they are accustom to. Whether it be a 2 ohm carto or a 306 atomizer ... the reviewer generally knows the ins and outs of how it will perform.

And yes, different pvs can ... and do cause variants in how a device performs. Load output, pulse frequency, and current drop off (among other things) are different on many mods ... and those differences affect the vaping experience.

The pv itself is very much part of the "business end". Take your favorite carto/clearo/atty and place it on a Twist set at 4.2 volts. Now place it on a Vamo/Zmax/Provari set to 4.2 volts.

You'll notice differences.

 

[Jonny2400]

When people review pvs ... they use devices they are accustom to. Whether it be a 2 ohm carto or a 306 atomizer ... the reviewer generally knows the ins and outs of how it will perform.

And yes, different pvs can ... and do cause variants in how a device performs. Load output, pulse frequency, and current drop off (among other things) are different on many mods ... and those differences affect the vaping experience.

The pv itself is very much part of the "business end". Take your favorite carto/clearo/atty and place it on a Twist set at 4.2 volts. Now place it on a Vamo/Zmax/Provari set to 4.2 volts.

You'll notice differences.

Not if they both provide 4.2000000 volts they will be the same !!!

Another passion I have is Airsoft, and they are the same with their bloody batteries, while a more powerful one does give better rof they also claim a better battery gives more power, range and accuracy which is a load of crap.


Another passion I have is cars and when speaking to people from the us all they talk about is bigger engines too, I drive a 2012 BMW 2.0 Td which is 188bhp 0-62mph in 7 seconds but yet their 7.0 200bhp 0-60 9.2 sec motors are faster ?!!??

Boys and their toys eh

 

[tc1]

But not all mods are 100% accurate, nor do they produce voltage the same way. And of course, every mod has a different feature set.

That is why people do mod reviews in the first place.

The vaping experience is far more complex than "choosing the right heating element device". In the "business" of quitting tobacco the bottom line is different for many people. Some people actually need a specific look or feel ... some need accuracy ... some need more power ... etc etc.

The pv/mod itself can be the difference between becoming a full time vaper or going back to tobacco.