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blkeyedszn

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Thanks, I don't want to stray off-topic here because I fear another "bad girl" message. However, I appreciate the offer asharp, but I don't need anything. I'm well stocked here and that's why I like to give to others who aren't as lucky. I only went without the one day (because of my own stupidity, but I didn't break down and smoke analogs!!) and now I am happily comfortable with everything I need and more to share. I will also continue to share and he won't deflate my PIF love.
 

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oh my god. I sent him a message for the ego battery.... well FORGET that!!!! I won't send him a dime!!!!!!!!!! I'm so sorry this happened to you!!!!!! wow............ Do you need anything? you sent a seriously amazing PIF kit out, trying to take on the spirit of this group, and you did great! I hope that if you need anything now, be it extra atty's or batts, that you ask me! I can send you something if you need it! again, sorry this happened to you!


me too...but never mind now!!! Sorry that happened to you...
 

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I am new to the 510 I've been vaping for 1 month. And when I received your stuff which is why imselling my 510 stuff because I purchased more ego stuff which I intend on keeping as my vape stuff when I got out but I am now going to get a mod. I don't understand the issue. I made offers after I took one. And I made other purchases. You don't know what I'm spending my money on. If you make an offer and some1 takes it then its theirs. So because I want to goto a mod and need money for it I get my classified spammed. That's not right. Look at my join date to these forums because that was before I started vaping. So what your saying is I'm a bad person because I changed my mind after receiving YOUR ego battery you sent me and want a mod that's bigger for at home vaping.

I apologize to anyone offended by the fact that I change my mind and want to move to a big mod. I didn't know that was grounds for spamming my classified ad. I stole nothing and never misrepresented myself.
 

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I am new to the 510 I've been vaping for 1 month. And when I received your stuff which is why imselling my 510 stuff because I purchased more ego stuff which I intend on keeping as my vape stuff when I got out but I am now going to get a mod. I don't understand the issue. I made offers after I took one. And I made other purchases. You don't know what I'm spending my money on. If you make an offer and some1 takes it then its theirs. So because I want to goto a mod and need money for it I get my classified spammed. That's not right. Look at my join date to these forums because that was before I started vaping. So what your saying is I'm a bad person because I changed my mind after receiving YOUR ego battery you sent me and want a mod that's bigger for at home vaping.

I apologize to anyone offended by the fact that I change my mind and want to move to a big mod. I didn't know that was grounds for spamming my classified ad. I stole nothing and never misrepresented myself.

If you think you're doin' nothing wrong, why are you apologizing?

To be honest, I think most would rather see you re-PIF what you took in PIF and don't want.

By selling it in the classifieds, you come across to many (including me) as a lowlife.
 
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blkeyedszn

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Look, I apologize if I misunderstood this. I do think you have a right to sell whatever you want in any way you want to get whatever you want. I honestly do. I just felt like you misrepresented yourself, and I'll admit, maybe it was me that read into it wrong. Or maybe it wasn't. I don't know why, but the lack of thanks when I so obviously gave you something from the heart is what sent a red flag up for me. That's fine, you are not obligated to thank me, nor is anyone obligated to thank anyone. However, the way I was raised it's the proper and polite thing to do. Had you at any point said thanks, and not disabled PM's (another red flag) so that I could make sure everything was received and well, as I tried to PM you SEVERAL TIMES, that might have changed my whole opinion on the matter. My instinct was telling me that something was off and that's all I can say.

As to spamming your thread, I left one post which was deleted almost immediately. I didn't try to post again, so there was no spamming.

I will not discuss this further in this thread because it's going off topic. If you'd like to continue this, please send me a PM.


I am new to the 510 I've been vaping for 1 month. And when I received your stuff which is why imselling my 510 stuff because I purchased more ego stuff which I intend on keeping as my vape stuff when I got out but I am now going to get a mod. I don't understand the issue. I made offers after I took one. And I made other purchases. You don't know what I'm spending my money on. If you make an offer and some1 takes it then its theirs. So because I want to goto a mod and need money for it I get my classified spammed. That's not right. Look at my join date to these forums because that was before I started vaping. So what your saying is I'm a bad person because I changed my mind after receiving YOUR ego battery you sent me and want a mod that's bigger for at home vaping.

I apologize to anyone offended by the fact that I change my mind and want to move to a big mod. I didn't know that was grounds for spamming my classified ad. I stole nothing and never misrepresented myself.
 
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Sallana

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I am new to the 510 I've been vaping for 1 month. And when I received your stuff which is why imselling my 510 stuff because I purchased more ego stuff which I intend on keeping as my vape stuff when I got out but I am now going to get a mod. I don't understand the issue. I made offers after I took one. And I made other purchases. You don't know what I'm spending my money on. If you make an offer and some1 takes it then its theirs. So because I want to goto a mod and need money for it I get my classified spammed. That's not right. Look at my join date to these forums because that was before I started vaping. So what your saying is I'm a bad person because I changed my mind after receiving YOUR ego battery you sent me and want a mod that's bigger for at home vaping.

I apologize to anyone offended by the fact that I change my mind and want to move to a big mod. I didn't know that was grounds for spamming my classified ad. I stole nothing and never misrepresented myself.

Correct me if I'm wrong. But it is in fact against PIF and ECF rules to accept a PIF offer (especially one that generous) and then turn around to sell it. You're right, we have no idea what you're spending your money on.. which is exactly why we don't want you selling what is given to you. AFAIK these are official rules. Trading is okay.. selling is not. Am I right? I could be wrong. But this is what I always abide by.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong. But it is in fact against PIF and ECF rules to accept a PIF offer (especially one that generous) and then turn around to sell it. You're right, we have no idea what you're spending your money on.. which is exactly why we don't want you selling what is given to you. AFAIK these are official rules. Trading is okay.. selling is not. Am I right? I could be wrong. But this is what I always abide by.

I know we're not supposed ot chat in here, but I just checked the rules, unfortunately you're wrong............. even if it seems you should be right..........

after the offer is accepted, the accepting person can do what ever they want with it, including selling in the classifieds or on another forum.
 

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I know we're not supposed ot chat in here, but I just checked the rules, unfortunately you're wrong............. even if it seems you should be right..........

after the offer is accepted, the accepting person can do what ever they want with it, including selling in the classifieds or on another forum.

My bad, you're right. I just checked them as well. I guess I just go by my own moral standards. Not that they make much sense, I guess.
 

adam22686

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I'm selling because I want to upgrade. I'm actually selling a lot of stuff I purchsed around that same time. So when I say you don't know what I spoend money on I mean you don't know what else I bought that I may be selling which is the case. I'm selling the ego she. Gave me because I PURCHASED a tornado kit. And the 801 stuff and 901 stuff I bought. And did not like so I'm re selling. And I didn't return the PMs because I couldn't get on the forums or receive PMs. I had 4 other packages coming at the same time as this PIF and no 1 knows what ecig stuff I got. I stated in the PM I was new to the 510 and was excited and I was but then I received lr attys and the ego battery and decioded HV vaping is what I wanted. So don't jusdge me on this saying I'm a low life like you know everything I'm doing.. you take 1 persons side of a story that's a small part of my life and label me a low life
 

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I had originally decided not to post here after speaking privately with Jules, but when my post was deleted in another thread, I figured I'd go through the "proper" channels to air out my grievances so I won't get another "bad girl" message from the ECF mods.

I put up this offer 8/31 on PIF:
510 Kit (just got it back from a friend I tried to convert)
4 510 batteries (2 used only a few times and 2 used & missing ash cap)
2 510 attys (used only a few times)
1 510 charger
Sampler of 5—3ml juice of my choosing
1 small bag of blue foam plugs (pre-cut)
A couple of filled carts (probably RY4 or Marlboro type)

It was accepted by adam22686. I know I'm not allowed to share PM's so I will summarize some of the things that were said.

"I just started vaping and have a 510 but only have 2 510 batteries and still tryin out juices to figure out what i like."

"Thanks alot that was a great first PIF offer for me to get i cant wait until i get to the point when i can give back to the community with an offer like yours."

So since he was new I decided to go above and beyond. In addition to my PIF offer, I added in some cartos, an eGo battery, a fast eGo charger (my only one decided to break that same weekend taking out 3 of my batteries in the process and leaving me without a way to vape for an entire day) some LR attys, some extra attys in addition to to the 2 offered and about 15-5ml juices for him to try out. I decided to send everything Priority so he would have it before the weekend costing me about $8 for shipping. All of this I was MORE than happy to do because it was going to a newbie who really needed it. I was so excited about it in fact.

After a week went buy and I hadn't heard anything from him (knowing he got the package 9/3 because of the delivery conformation) I decided to PM him to make sure everything was ok and that he did in fact get the package. Turns out he disabled receiving PM's so I couldn't contact him.

Then I noticed this thread:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...1-some-ego-tornado-plus-more.html#post1897099

Many of the items he has for sale came from things I sent him. He also obviously had more than "2 510 batteries" like he told me and the thread mentions he has over 300ml of juice he will be selling, so I feel swindled. He lied to me about having nothing and never once said thanks for the generous package I sent out.

Now I know that PIF is about giving and not receiving thanks. I also know that he is free to do what he wants with his stuff once he accepted the PIF. However, I do think I should mention that he seriously misrepresented himself to me and it should be noted in case others are considering dealing with him.
 

blkeyedszn

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Thanks, I don't want to stray off-topic here because I fear another "bad girl" message. However, I appreciate the offer asharp, but I don't need anything. I'm well stocked here and that's why I like to give to others who aren't as lucky. I only went without the one day (because of my own stupidity, but I didn't break down and smoke analogs!!) and now I am happily comfortable with everything I need and more to share. I will also continue to share and he won't deflate my PIF love.
 

debb

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oh my god. I sent him a message for the ego battery.... well FORGET that!!!! I won't send him a dime!!!!!!!!!! I'm so sorry this happened to you!!!!!! wow............ Do you need anything? you sent a seriously amazing PIF kit out, trying to take on the spirit of this group, and you did great! I hope that if you need anything now, be it extra atty's or batts, that you ask me! I can send you something if you need it! again, sorry this happened to you!


me too...but never mind now!!! Sorry that happened to you...
 
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