ADDICTS, and nicotine...

[Magus86]

I agree with what you say about not forcing our problems or causing problems for others as a result of our habits. That's perfectly reasonable, and that's what I meant. I don't think ANYBODY, regardless of whether they do drugs or not, should be allowed to just leech off of the government or taxpayers. But I also don't think that if one pothead is causing problems for someone else, that everybody else who smokes pot should automatically be lumped together with that ....... and have their right to smoke pot taken away. It should be dealt with on a case by case basis. If you can't smoke pot without being an annoying ......... to everybody around you, you should no longer be allowed to smoke it, or you should just continuously get punished for whatever you've done to annoy everybody. You can't blame the substance because we're not all the same, and we're not all affected by it in the same way.

 

[THE]

I agree with what you say about not forcing our problems or causing problems for others as a result of our habits. That's perfectly reasonable, and that's what I meant. I don't think ANYBODY, regardless of whether they do drugs or not, should be allowed to just leech off of the government or taxpayers. But I also don't think that if one pothead is causing problems for someone else, that everybody else who smokes pot should automatically be lumped together with that ....... and have their right to smoke pot taken away. It should be dealt with on a case by case basis. If you can't smoke pot without being an annoying ......... to everybody around you, you should no longer be allowed to smoke it, or you should just continuously get punished for whatever you've done to annoy everybody. You can't blame the substance because we're not all the same, and we're not all affected by it in the same way.

I agree

The biggest problem, I think, is what users of a certain drug generally tend to do.. how we tend to behave.. And that's where it gets even thicker. Because if public perception is "THOSE NO GOOD __ USERS ARE ______ AND THEY _______ ALL OF THE TIME AND THEY NEVER _____ or _____" .... well you get the picture. Fill in the blanks however you want, but that's pretty much how it is.

Sometimes it's true, sometimes it isn't. Even when a certain type of user is clearly known for certain behaviors... if a few don't exhibit that behavior, they still should not be lumped in with the rest. But they probably will be.

 

[Biomom]

I still love Katherine Heigl's reply to addiction. "I'm totally addicted to the device!" "But! It's a healthy addiction" And, true is that considering the alternitive, so who cares?

Don't forget the numbers of people who are able to quit vaping because they feel like it after not being able to quit smoking are overwhelming. It's much easier if we WANT to, but the world is harsh and many of us enjoy the comfort of vaping

Vape on, guilt free. You are ALIVE and WELL

 

[Rhapsodies Fire]

The biggest problem I personally have with folks who want to label smokers as "bad" or whatever is you would have a very hard time finding any of them without any addiction, whether it's coffee, soda, facebook, their cell phone, whatever. Smoking is disgusting, no doubt, but so is texting while driving.

Well said....I totally agree.

My name is Lisa and I'm a nicotine addict. I am also a 2 month ex-smoker after 25 years of smoking.

 

[cobaltblue]

Nicotine is an addiction. The word addition to me relates to something I would be ashamed of. So talking about coffee and suger and what not in a thread about nicotine addiction feels more like an attempt to downplay the word. Technically it can be an addiction, but if we're all using english in its proper context here, it doesn't fit. I am ashamed (maybe to strong of word) that I still smoke. That will carry over to my addiction to nicotine as well. I'm not ashamed to vape because that's a step foreword but again, I'm not proud that I'm still on nicotine. No one should is my personal belief. Before this thread turned into FDA posts, I am writing about the OP. We should feel that negative stigma when someone uses the word addiction at us. I would rather feel guilt then continue to be blind. The best we can do is beat this thing. Just because there's no tar involved doesn't mean its no longer an ugly addiction as it was before. If my son never smoked cigs but needed to vape for the nic, yep, I call that an addiction.
That's brutal honesty to myself. See it for what it is. I see posts where people act like oh, I'll smoke my pv for the rest of my life while others plan to quit vaping eventually. I all of us should have the later in mind as or ultimate goal even of it doesn't happen. I don't know about you all but sucking on the end of an atty isn't appealing to me albeit more so then an analog. Just putting this all in perspective.

I agree that goals are good. Feeling self-induced guilt or allowing others to shame us with harsh labels is counter-productive though. When I was a kid I brushed off a compliment using self-effacing humor, and by the sweetest elderly gentleman was told something I'll never forget. He said, "Never cut yourself down. There will be plenty of people who feel rotten about themselves that will be happy to do it for you."