Advice for a noob. Brand name or "Roll your own".

[sailorman]

What do you mean by "last"? Do you mean the e-juice in them only stays "good" for a week or two before needing a refill, or do you mean that I'll have to throw them out and get another one in a week or two?

Is there a more "permanent" option other than cartos? Or are cartos the only thing you can use with the "slim" e-cigs?

WATYF

I mean that, depending on how they are used, they eventually either get clogged up and hard to draw on, or the coils burn out. So they don't last forever. The juice in them stays good for months, maybe a year.

You can use certain clearomizers with slim batteries. The best one I've seen and used that will work on a slim battery is the Fluxomizer from Gotvapes.com. If you get these, make sure you get the 808 version in 2.4-2.6ohms. Clearomizers last longer than cartomizers. They are cleanable and you can change juices in them. They taste better as well. I don't use regular cartos anymore since I started using Fluxos. They really don't cost much more than blank 808 cartos either.

You are severly restricted in what you can use with a small battery. You have a narrow range of ohms that you need to stay within, and a big tank or something is kind of silly and impractical on a little battery. If you want to move up, the Volt's X2 battery will give you a lot of options you don't have, (including a passthrough), with a little battery. Meanwhile, the Fluxomizers are the best thing to stick on the end of a slim battery.

 

[Mroutlaw]

What do you mean by "last"? Do you mean the e-juice in them only stays "good" for a week or two before needing a refill, or do you mean that I'll have to throw them out and get another one in a week or two?

Is there a more "permanent" option other than cartos? Or are cartos the only thing you can use with the "slim" e-cigs?

WATYF

After a while the atomizer in the carto will go bad. No matter what you use, you will have to change atomizers. Some cartomizers are better than others because of design and therefore will last longer. The key to cartomizers is not letting them burn. If you completely drain it, some will start to get a burnt taste because the atomizer is burning the filler. I had that problem with blu and v4l.

It's just a cost of vaping, which is much cheaper than smoking. Look at it his way. A pack of cartomizers from smokeless image is $9 without a coupon. You can refill them for between 20 to 30 cents depending on your juice. On the average, a filled cartomizer is equal to about 1/2 pack of analogs, but it depends on how you vape. If you only refill them 10 times, but you will refill a lot more, it would cost you about $20-$25. Now compare that to analogs. If a carto only last for a half of pack of analogs, then you have the equivalent of 25 packs. Down here in south Florida, I paid $6 a pack for Marlboro smooth so that would have cost me $150. Now that cost can go even lower with promotions and coupons. A lot of juice companies have great deals where they will give you a free bottle to try them or 40% off an order.


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[sailorman]

If you want truly permanent, a Silver Bullet and a tank system with a rebuildable atomizer is as close to permanent as you can get in the vaping world. But expect to be several hundred dollars poorer by the time you get set up.

 

[Mroutlaw]

LOL- I HAVE to concur! As a previous Blu user I must pipe in on that one. I think their promotion methods introduce a good number of people. Honestly their disposable isn't too bad but I would never get one of their starter kits... Oh wait, I did once. Yeah, stick with the Volt or Bloog, just sayin'...

-Jason

Tell me about it Jason, they sucked me in with their disposable, I got their starer kit, returned it, and am still waiting for my money 5 weeks later. I will give them this though, they got me off of analogs


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[WATYF]

OK. I was getting freaked out for a minute thinking that I'd have to spend 10 bucks every week or something. I keep forgetting that most people use these as a replacement for a regular smoking habit. Since I'm only going to use these a couple times a week (for a little bit at a time), I think the cartos should last me a good while.

At this point, my decision was between the Volt and the Smoov (both have cheap starter kits). But as much as I think the Smoov looks cool, it just seems like the Volt has a better reputation and more options. It seems that I can try it for cheap (by getting a starter kit), and then if I like it, I can expand to their bigger battery or a cleartomizer or whatever.

WATYF

 

[Mroutlaw]

Yes that's what's nice about the volt. You can use their bigger batteries on the cartomizers and the clearo on the small battery. And their customer service is awesome. I just called them because I was having a problem with one of my batteries, and she sent me a new one with no problem. I don't even have to mail back the old battery.

Don't be surprised if you end up vaping more than you ever smoked. Personally, I capw about twice as much as I used to smoke. I love the taste of it so much so I just use a very light nicotine level.

 

[sailorman]

Actually, I think the clearomizer that Volt sells is set up for an eGo type attachment, like the X2 battery has. I don't believe it will work on the small batteries. So you can use the cartomizers on either batteries, but the clearomizer is only for the X2. If you want to try a clearomizer on a small Volt battery, you need one compatible with a standard kr808 connector.

 

[WATYF]

Don't be surprised if you end up vaping more than you ever smoked. Personally, I capw about twice as much as I used to smoke. I love the taste of it so much so I just use a very light nicotine level.

Speaking of nicotine level.... how do I find out which nicotine "strength" will best mimic the Smooths?

WATYF

 

[Pathfinder]

Hi. Just found this place. I'll try to be brief (but probably won't ).

I'm an occasional social smoker. I've never had a regular habit. It's just something I mostly do with friends. I'm looking to move away from cigarettes entirely but I can't find anything that can replace the experience of having a cigarette. I tried cigars, pipe, etc but none of them are as easy and relaxing as just lighting up a cigarette.

So now, here I am looking into e-cigs. From what I can find, I have two main options available to me:

1) Get a brand name e-cig setup.
2) Go through what appears to be a very involved process of "choosing my own adventure" and building my own e-cig from multiple different components from several different manufacturers.

Of the brand names I've looked at so far, the ones that looked most promising to me were V2 and PEC. I'm leaning towards PEC because they have a clove flavor (my favorite smoke was always Djarum clove cigarettes, until the stupid gubment banned them). But V2's have gotten good reviews and they have a very cheap starter kit.

Both brand names have cheap starter kits (around 30-50 bucks) which is what I'm looking for, and a decent variety of flavors.

So, now that I've spelled all that out... here are my questions.


Is there a clear advantage to going with either a brand name or a "roll your own" setup?

If I get a brand name, can I get other flavors from other manufacturers to use with the brand name e-cig?

Is there a "roll your own" setup somewhere that's simple and cheap like the "starter kits" that are offered by the brand names, or is it simply more expensive and difficult to build your own?


Basically, my emphasis is on a simple, cheap experience that's like smoking a cigarette (and frankly, I'd like something that looks like a cigarette too). Battery life and features and all that jazz isn't a huge issue because I'm not going to be using it every day (or all day). I just want something that's as trouble free and easy as a cigarette without all those nasty health side-effects.

WATYF

Hi WATYF to the forum.
It appears that you have been given some good advice from some veterans here. But since you said you are an occasional smoker I would pay close attention to the nicotine doses you get in your juices. If you are not a regular smoker perhaps you donot have any addiction to nicotine. I would be careful not to develop one from vaping if I were you. You can buy e-juice with no nicotine or very low levels of nicotine. Quite a few people vape without nicotine from what I hear. Some have reduced there nicotine levels over time. If you find no difference when vaping nic or no nic I would choose the no nic. Nicotine is not the disease causing part of cigarettes but it is addictive. No need to create an addiction if there wasn't one to begin with. I don't believe clove cigs had nicotine and that is probably why I didn't care for them when I smoked analogs.
I also want to say that trying out different vaping set-ups is part of the fun. If you really like vaping you will eventually get into the bigger mods. Best of luck on your vaping journey.

 

[WATYF]

Hi WATYF to the forum.
It appears that you have been given some good advice from some veterans here. But since you said you are an occasional smoker I would pay close attention to the nicotine doses you get in your juices. If you are not a regular smoker perhaps you donot have any addiction to nicotine. I would be careful not to develop one from vaping if I were you. You can buy e-juice with no nicotine or very low levels of nicotine. Quite a few people vape without nicotine from what I hear. Some have reduced there nicotine levels over time. If you find no difference when vaping nic or no nic I would choose the no nic. Nicotine is not the disease causing part of cigarettes but it is addictive. No need to create an addiction if there wasn't one to begin with. I don't believe clove cigs had nicotine and that is probably why I didn't care for them when I smoked analogs.
I also want to say that trying out different vaping set-ups is part of the fun. If you really like vaping you will eventually get into the bigger mods. Best of luck on your vaping journey.

Yeah, I figured I'd be going for one of the lower levels. I can tell when something has no nicotine in it, and prefer at least a little. I suppose I can start with the lowest level and stick with that as long as it seems to be "enough".

WATYF

 

[WATYF]

It's funny, I was about to place an order for the Volt starter kit, and their website went down.


WATYF

 

[sailorman]

It's funny, I was about to place an order for the Volt starter kit, and their website went down.


WATYF

I just checked. They're back up. Must be a storm somewhere or something. Or they seen ya comin'

 

[Mroutlaw]

Actually, I think the clearomizer that Volt sells is set up for an eGo type attachment, like the X2 battery has. I don't believe it will work on the small batteries. So you can use the cartomizers on either batteries, but the clearomizer is only for the X2. If you want to try a clearomizer on a small Volt battery, you need one compatible with a standard kr808 connector.

Sailor man

The si clearomizer does work well on the standard volt batteries, it just looks funny. But it is 808 with 2.4-2.6 ohm. You really cant use it easily with the standard manual batteries though because the bottom comes right up to the button. It's possible, just inconvience to hit the button, it works great on the autos though

 

[Mroutlaw]

If you are looking to mimic the smooth, go with the ice menthol or mint from si. Both are awesome. I started with 6mg of nicotine and am very happy with it. Although I smoked about a pack and a half of cigarettes a day, I knew my addiction was more the hand to mouth then the nicotine. Any mint flavor will give you a throat hit like cigarettes. Nicotine also adds to the throat hit. IMO the mint with 6mg of nicotine is similar to Marlboro smooth, which is what I smoked. Now I use that in the morning and then switch to sweet Flavors later in the day.

 

[sailorman]

Sailor man

The si clearomizer does work well on the standard volt batteries, it just looks funny. But it is 808 with 2.4-2.6 ohm. You really cant use it easily with the standard manual batteries though because the bottom comes right up to the button. It's possible, just inconvience to hit the button, it works great on the autos though

Oh, I see. The collar just hangs out in space and interferes with the button. I guess you could use an 808/ego adapter if they make them. That would move it out of the way of the button. I don't know what resistance they are though. Do you? If they're lower than the standard cartos, I'd be hesitant to use them on the mini batts. I'm just wondering why SI says they're for the X2 only. I guess because of the button issue.

 

[beako]

I was planning on getting a Volt today as well. Is it better to get the pro starter kit or the standard?

 

[sailorman]

I was planning on getting a Volt today as well. Is it better to get the pro starter kit or the standard?

Depend on whether you need the charging case. Personally, I'd get the Pro. If you're out, you can have one charging while you use the other one. Otherwise, you have to bring both batteries and pray that they don't both run out on you.
BTW, at home, the charging case also acts as a regular charger. You can charge a battery and the case at the same time.

Get the larger batteries though and choose the "mega" case if you get the Pro kit. The 78mm "mega" batteries last a lot longer and they only cost about a buck more.

 

[Mroutlaw]

Oh, I see. The collar just hangs out in space and interferes with the button. I guess you could use an 808/ego adapter if they make them. That would move it out of the way of the button. I don't know what resistance they are though. Do you? If they're lower than the standard cartos, I'd be hesitant to use them on the mini batts. I'm just wondering why SI says they're for the X2 only. I guess because of the button issue.

They are the same as the cartos, that information came from imagine. I think they say that because Of the collar, it overhangs the small battery, but does work.

Where can I get a fluxo that fits the small battery, I would love a couple of those

 

[Mroutlaw]

Depend on whether you need the charging case. Personally, I'd get the Pro. If you're out, you can have one charging while you use the other one. Otherwise, you have to bring both batteries and pray that they don't both run out on you.
BTW, at home, the charging case also acts as a regular charger. You can charge a battery and the case at the same time.

Get the larger batteries though and choose the "mega" case if you get the Pro kit. The 78mm "mega" batteries last a lot longer and they only cost about a buck more.

I suggest the same thing. The mega pcc is the same price but carries 2 batteries and 3 cartos. Go with the 78mm batteries for the extra dollar. I made the mistake of getting the small ones at first because I wanted to be able to store a battery and carto assembled in the mega pcc, but I found I never do that anyway. The larger battery lasts a lot longer and is the same size as a 100 analog.

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IMO you don't need the kit that has the pass through. For the extra money you can get an x2 which is a battery and pass through in one

 

[beako]

is there a way to get the X2 in the pro starter kit?