You guys realize those mist bottles and pumps are designed for much less viscous fluids than eliquid. Even if you went with 100%PG, I think it would still be too thick for an unmodified pump.
Alexander Mundy's Magic Twisted Ribbon
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my pump will be built from scratch and use stainless steel ball bearing check valves, so it can be calibrated for it's use here. I wouldn't use a pre made plastic spray thing anyway. it's all in the nozzle size vs pressure attainable
Back in 2011 I was on the preorder for one of the first 100 EQs by Digital Ciggz. It was a VV/VW mode with a piezo micro pump to deliver liquid from the bottle to the atty. Shortly after the first 33 shipped they were recalled, preorders refunded, and never re-released. Lot of R&D money and production costs down the drain on that one.
yeah, that's why I want simple mechanical delivery. once it's calibrated to function then it will last years. about the only servicing may be replacing seals or springs, a tiny piezo motor sounds like a nightmare for anything more than a novelty that won't be durable at all. sorry to sidetrack your thread mundy
You wouldn't even need a coil! All those long hours of reading that microcoil thread, WASTED!
Sorry I have very little time to participate guys.
Please continue with the brainstorming!
I am liking it very much!
If work doesn't kill me I will check back in, still working now.
Please continue with the brainstorming!
I am liking it very much!
If work doesn't kill me I will check back in, still working now.
What if you just have needle tip poised above the coil. When you draw air to vape, it will lower the pressure in the chamber and drip on the coil. You could have a little screw that compresses a flexible feed tube to adjust how quickly the juice comes out. This way you could accommodate different coils (burning more or less juice) and air holes (causing more or less vacuum in the chamber).
You'd have to figure out how to adjust the position so it could accommodate different builds, which might be a bit of a challenge.
You'd have to figure out how to adjust the position so it could accommodate different builds, which might be a bit of a challenge.
I was just thinking instead of using a coil... can a Ultrasonic Atomizing Transducer be used to convert the liquid into vapor?
I'm really liking the idea of a wickless coil and MM seems the best suited coil for it. We gotta find a way to deliver juice to that monster.
The original e-cig invention in 200(?) was ultrasonically vaped. Dunno how it performed. I guess everyone thought heat was easier... or he patented it and no one can build that style (maybe more likely). Ultrasonic is probably more battery friendly too.
look further, because there was a post a couiple weeks back linking to the patent around 1965
Segue back to another topic. I tried the 2 wire version for comparison. Same configuration as I normally do; 3/4 wrap on 1/16" (although I often do a #53 or something a tad smaller than 1/16"). It came out to .6Ω+. It's pretty good; but it's not AS good. The flavor profile is thinner. More 2D than 3D type thinner. There's alot of the bass end missing. I'm vaping lemonade and the sharp and tangy elements are there; but it just isn't as full and deep in the flavor. I tried a number of air hole sizes to compensate for the vape being a higher res. than I'm used to. Anything smaller just made it bite more without adding dimension.
Dam you guys and this hobby / sport / vaping thing!
Need to finish paperwork and get to bed but an idea popped into my head.
After bee wanted someone to reverse the battery in the nano thread I wondered what would happen if I.....
Rene41 Nano Dragon / Magic Micro hybrid with nano pointing straight into magic micro.
Covered all except end of magic with hemp.
Had to expand the magneto and put in an 18650 because of dual coil.
Really nice vape!
Need to finish paperwork and get to bed but an idea popped into my head.
After bee wanted someone to reverse the battery in the nano thread I wondered what would happen if I.....
Rene41 Nano Dragon / Magic Micro hybrid with nano pointing straight into magic micro.
Covered all except end of magic with hemp.
Had to expand the magneto and put in an 18650 because of dual coil.
Really nice vape!
Dam you guys and this hobby / sport / vaping thing!
Need to finish paperwork and get to bed but an idea popped into my head.
After bee wanted someone to reverse the battery in the nano thread I wondered what would happen if I.....
Rene41 Nano Dragon / Magic Micro hybrid with nano pointing straight into magic micro.
Covered all except end of magic with hemp.
Had to expand the magneto and put in an 18650 because of dual coil.
Really nice vape!
That looks kinda cool, but I don't get it. Are the coils in series (if so how did you connect the two coils?) or in parallel? Can you please post a pic of it covered in whatever fluff you used?
parallel; either/both originating at a shared positive post (center) and terminating at it's own negative.
But, yeah, Mundy, if you wick the inside of the twisted coil, does the dragon puff out the neg. end of the nano?
But, yeah, Mundy, if you wick the inside of the twisted coil, does the dragon puff out the neg. end of the nano?
Not a surprise right? But its not really a fair comparison. You are using ~1/3 less wire surface area per linear inch. (sorta comparing a 28g vape to a 30g vape.) You might get slightly faster heat-up time, but your concentration of watt density is gonna narrow the flavor profile and send it to the sharper end.
A better comparison would be a 1.2ohm double Mundy to a 1.2ohm 30g round micro. Big difference.
The double twist is more for peeps who dont have the required equipment to get the triple experience.
Like pdib said on coil hook up.
Cacoon of hemp with magic end open only.
Here is pic. (sorry for low res pic, sitting in truck at lunch)
No, not a surprise. And it was very cool of you to make something up for the mechanically challenged (←jk), the variably capable (← and there too). The only reason I even compared, was that DrMA was having trouble getting a decent vape out of the stuff, and I/we had no idea how close one could get to begin with. Now, I might have a better perspective, to say . . .. "oh, that is/isn't what it should be like" . .. . . or "that's not the wire, that's your build". . . . 'n like that.
So what's the verdict on the 2 vs 3 wire MM twist? It sounds like they're close, with some minor differences around the flavor depth.
What is the juice you are using?
It brings out some flavors more than others.
In fact it can change the flavor profile of a juice that is complex.
I have a mix of peanut butter, grape jolly rancher, Bavarian cream, and a little EM that I love with a conventional micro coil (especially Rene41) but the flavor profile is changed and no matter how I change the %'s I don't like it with magic as much.
I was not impressed on a gennie either.
Best was with a horizontal coil with both legs of cotton into tank through wick holes.
Yep, doesn't pull the juice out of AO very well.
Was hoping for a quick dry burn setup in my dripper with AO for flavor tasting but it worked almost as well with just the coil without the AO.
Every one is different of course, but my magic go to is still 5/6 wrap 1.2mm ID cotton wick ranging from a hair over 4 to about 3.7 volts at the coil in an RM2 on a Reo Grand with sweet juices (TFA Key Lime 15% or TFA Orange Cream 10%).
If I ever get time I am going to have to play with the pancake idea more.
It has possibilities but is difficult to implement a tight wrap in that shape with magic.
Got to get back to work.
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