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Thats great, I'm glad you agree with him and enjoy cleaning and re-using your coils.

My whole point was that I don't. I tried it once and it was not faster for me, by the time I rinsed it, dry burned it, had to rinse it again, dry burn again, then when I went to re-wick it the wick was a mess as it would not insert as easily as a new coil and was ripping the wick so I said this is not for me.

If it was a lot more costly and a lot more time to put a new coil in I would certainly consider re-using, but it's not for me. Everyone does things a bit difference, I think this whole topic is ridiculous and hope people can just respect that not every doesn't things like they do.

I think everyone does respect that not every one does the same.

Had you said I personally prefer just putting on a new coil because of "x" (e.g. type of coil you use doesn't clean easily making it more time consuming, or or or) I don't think anyone would have said anything..
 

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I think everyone does respect that not every one does the same.

Had you said I personally prefer just putting on a new coil because of "x" (e.g. type of coil you use doesn't clean easily making it more time consuming, or or or) I don't think anyone would have said anything..

Here is what I said:

"Wire is so cheap I can make a new coil way faster than dry burning it."

How is that any different than saying " I personally prefer..... come on now... you know it's coming from me and already my opinion, I come on here to chat and hopefully learn some things, not be told how I should say things on here, especially when it makes no difference.

Anything anyone says on here is obviously their opinion.
 

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I've bought and vaped a long list of the best and greatest atomizers over the years. Some have their fine points and others didn't suit my MTL vaping style at all. We all have to find the atomizer that suits our particular style and flavor/vapor preference.

I find myself coming back to my old Kayfun v2's each time. They are just easy to build and flavorful to vape, IMO. That, and they have 4.5ml juice capacity. That's a big deal for me. 2ml and 3ml tanks just don't last when I'm out and about and although I usually carry a refill bottle I'd rather not have to use it if I don't have to.

Doggystyle has great flavor and vapor, but small juice capacity. The Beserker is still my #2 backup.
 

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I think this whole topic is ridiculous
This whole topic (helping PatVapes with her stuff) was fine until it turned into a member sizing contest.
You could've just let it go after this comment.
To each their own...
No problem to disagree, but being defensive about the speed it takes to recoil and rewick (with obvious exaggerated time to defend your point) is kinda silly. Definitely in a topic that isn't even about rebuildables.
Nah man, it takes me 10 seconds to make a coil, sit down for 10 mins and I have a enough to last me months
And, to be fair, you sound kind of rude.
Wow, did you have a nap in between building it? haha

So, can we all shake hands to agree to disagree on changing versus cleaning and get back to the topic at hand please?
 

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I come on here to chat and hopefully learn some things, not be told how I should say things on here, especially when it makes no difference.

You are in the new members area posting in a thread where the OP is frustrated and has already stated they are close to giving up...

Saying you can do something that is unrealistic, then doubling down on it does the OP no good and might cause more harm. When she tries to build one in 10 seconds and can't (none of us can) then she will get even more discouraged...

Offer help, tips, assistance, or encouragement not look at me chest pounding.. My .02

Anyways, back on topic.... OP, you can use my cleaning tip if you'd like and I'd actually recommend it since you've stated you won't be building the coils yourself..
 

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This whole topic (helping PatVapes with her stuff) was fine until it turned into a member sizing contest.
You could've just let it go after this comment.

No problem to disagree, but being defensive about the speed it takes to recoil and rewick (with obvious exaggerated time to defend your point) is kinda silly. Definitely in a topic that isn't even about rebuildables.

And, to be fair, you sound kind of rude.


So, can we all shake hands to agree to disagree on changing versus cleaning and get back to the topic at hand please?

I did let it go, until YOU came on here this morning to ad your two cents.!

And I'm gonna let it go again, tired of waisting my time on trivial chat.
 
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I did let it go, until YOU came on here this morning to ad your two cents.!

And I'm gonna let it go again, tired of waisting my time on trivial chat.

That might have been me sweetheart..

At any rate. Love you all..

Wanna race? Hahaha
 

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Yeah he said it... Let's cut it out guys.. Threads long enough for the original problem of OP.
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To topic... I say just get a nice RTA that she will only need to re-wick every 2 to 3 days. What RTA is a long list. I have a Kylin mini, single coil... and the Kylin V2. I loved the Kylin mini and when I saw the V2 and the dual coil feature, I grabbed it and quickly I wish I didn't. It's rather redundant and I still ended up using a single coil due to hassle and not much gained in vapor and taste, only double the consumption of everything just IMO and still very subjective. But for a nice lady, nothing can beat a single coil for ease of re-wick, even re-coiling.

Like I said, you don't have to get exactly what I have and suggested, just similar in ease of usage and what's available in your area.
 

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To topic... I say just get a nice RTA that she will only need to re-wick every 2 to 3 days. What RTA is a long list. I have a Kylin mini, single coil... and the Kylin V2. I loved the Kylin mini and when I saw the V2 and the dual coil feature, I grabbed it and quickly I wish I didn't. It's rather redundant and I still ended up using a single coil due to hassle and not much gained in vapor and taste, only double the consumption of everything just IMO and still very subjective. But for a nice lady, nothing can beat a single coil for ease of re-wick, even re-coiling.

Like I said, you don't have to get exactly what I have and suggested, just similar in ease of usage and what's available in your area.

I haven't used RTA or RDA's in a few years and things have changed.. Finding an easy to build on single coil MTL RTA is difficult these days.

I always like the Kayfun's and Taifun's.. They were a bit tricky to properly wick but builds on them were pretty simple...

I know you can still get them both but they are pricey and most don't want to spend that much on a tank...

I don't really have any RTA recommendations for the OP that's dead simple and can do both MTL and DTL vaping. The Taifun might be an option (it can sorta-kinda do both) but as stated, it's pricey and some battle getting the wicking right...

Also not sure if Genesis styled RTA's are still a thing or not these days but they were always known for being flavor producing machines and many used SS mesh long before it became the current rage. I had a few Genesis's over the years and most were dead simple builds as well..
 
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The only thing I wouldn’t like is that the flavor is bad and everybody says that the flavor is awesome. I still have time to think about it. I have 4 more coils to use :)

I have a friend who brings me stuff from the USA every month but I have to pay for it with my credit card, so I wouldn’t be able to get it if they don’t accept cards from Perú.

The guys at the shop told me today that every time I need to clean or change coils I can go to their shop and they can do it for me in case I don’t wanna mess with it :)

I'm sure I caused my own question to you to get buried, so I'm asking you again:

I have a question... why are you saying the taste is bad?

Have you tried someone else's RTA?

What were the circumstances and was it a juice you normally like?

Did you try a juice you know you like.. ?

There are many variables in vaping, and some people have far more sensitive taste buds.

Sometimes the issue with building is that you can actually taste the juice..

Other times perhaps you can taste the wicking material so a better or different wicking is in order for you..

I can personally taste cotton bacon as well as rayon. The wicking I taste least is Japanese organic cotton.. certainly the same isn't true for everyone.. but I have weird taste buds.

Alcohol in a flavoring that's not been adequately evaporated off tastes like gasoline to me. Like seriously disgusting.. until I figured it out i was throwing away brand new bottles of ejuice left and right when I first started vaping.. hahaha

So.. just know there are variables. Whether stainless steel or kanthal is used makes a difference in taste, your wicking material can make a difference in taste, and the ejuice itself..

But it's likely something with some trial and error you can figure out.
 
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I'm sure I caused my own question to you to get buried, so I'm asking you again:



Did you try a juice you know you like.. ?

There are many variables in vaping, and some people have far more sensitive taste buds.

Sometimes the issue with building is that you can actually taste the juice..

Other times perhaps you can taste the wicking material so a better or different wicking is in order for you..

I can personally taste cotton bacon as well as rayon. The wicking I taste least is Japanese organic cotton.. certainly the same isn't true for everyone.. but I have weird taste buds.

Alcohol in a flavoring that's not been adequately evaporated off tastes like gasoline to me. Like seriously disgusting.. until I figured it out i was throwing away brand new bottles of ejuice left and right when I first started vaping.. hahaha

So.. just know there are variables. Whether stainless steel or kanthal is used makes a difference in taste, your wicking material can make a difference in taste, and the ejuice itself..

But it's likely something with some trial and error you can figure out.

I didn’t say the taste is bad. I said that the deal breaker is if it made my juice taste bad which is not the case, so now I’m not opposing to rda or rtas.

Also if I may, I feel that saying you shouldn’t recommend this or that or you shouldn’t do this or that because you’re a “beginner” is underestimating someone. Might be the teacher in me, but most of the things I know I’ve learnt on my own. Building a coil is only intimidating because it looks different and not because I feel like it’s something impossible to do.

Finally, y’all should stop fighting over little things. I’m having enough teaching spoiled kids all day on a Saturday to come here and read this lol. Come on, it’s almost Christmas. Peace and love
 

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I always like the Kayfun's and Taifun's.. They were a bit tricky to properly wick but builds on them were pretty simple...I know you can still get them both but they are pricey and most don't want to spend that much on a tank...

Also not sure if Genesis styled RTA's are still a thing or not these days but they were always known for being flavor producing machines and many used SS mesh long before it became the current rage. I had a few Genesis's over the years and most were dead simple builds as well..
:shock: Oh heavens no!! I was in agreement with every thing you said up to that point.

Did you actually make your own stainless steel mesh wicks? That was the downfall of Genesis-style RTA's for me. I could never wrap a SS mesh wick small enough to fit into that tiny wick hole. Plus, they were not ideal for out-and-about use because they leaked when the tank was turned sideways. Yet, to get the mesh to wick properly you had to do the Genny Tilt maneuver.

The Genesis-style AGA-T RTA was my first rebuildable anything, and it was so unsuccessful it turned me off from rebuilding for several months. I eventually purchased pre-built mesh wicks, but you still had to deal with the other stuff. Then I got the Kayfun-style Svoemesto Kayfun Lite RTA. Now that was a bit tricky to wick, but once you learned that skill it was an excellent RTA. Strictly for MTL only, though.

IMHO, the Genesis-style RTA's were a poor design from the get go. Does anyone still use them? :unsure:

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My Genesis-style AGA-T RTA's above. With the tank being below the build deck, you're constantly fighting gravity for wicking.
 
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I didn’t say the taste is bad. I said that the deal breaker is if it made my juice taste bad which is not the case, so now I’m not opposing to rda or rtas.

Also if I may, I feel that saying you shouldn’t recommend this or that or you shouldn’t do this or that because you’re a “beginner” is underestimating someone. Might be the teacher in me, but most of the things I know I’ve learnt on my own. Building a coil is only intimidating because it looks different and not because I feel like it’s something impossible to do.

Finally, y’all should stop fighting over little things. I’m having enough teaching spoiled kids all day on a Saturday to come here and read this lol. Come on, it’s almost Christmas. Peace and love

I totally agree with you.

And I do apologize for misunderstanding your post there. I'm glad you like it..

If you recall pages back, I recommended the GeekVape Ammit RDA for you. It's an excellent restricted lung RDA, and single coil so very easy to learn on.

It's also on clearance at EightVape right now for 4.99 each. Might be a good place to start for an excellent price since you said you have a U.S. buyer for your gear..

I'm big on trying new things from the clearance rack.. :) if it sucks your not out much money. and if it's awesome you got a great deal!

The silverplay RTA is another good option that's a little less expensive (23.00) Silverplay 24mm RTA
 
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Also if I may, I feel that saying you shouldn’t recommend this or that or you shouldn’t do this or that because you’re a “beginner” is underestimating someone. Might be the teacher in me, but most of the things I know I’ve learnt on my own. Building a coil is only intimidating because it looks different and not because I feel like it’s something impossible to do.
This is so true. Building isn't about how new you are. It's about wanting to and having the aptitude or skill. You'll be no better at it after inhaling 1,000 ml of ejuice than 1 ml. I started with a drop in, and ordered my first rta in less than a month, and never looked back. So while I understand people not wanting to overwhelm newbies with info, we shouldn't have the attitude of "oh no, you're not ready for that."
Pat - I've tried most of the big name newer mouth-to-lung rta's over the last year or two, along with most of the Kayfuns. If you want to venture into MTL, I'd highly recommend the SXK Doggystyle. It's the easiest, most trouble-free tank out there, in my opinion (and only about $10.00). MTL, but you can actually get a pretty restricted lung hit on it, albeit not open enough for true DTL. I've also really been liking the True MTL tank for the past couple of weeks, and it's as easy as the doggy, but not as open a draw. And if you like MTL and DTL, you'll probably be more satisfied with different tanks to do each, because I don't believe there's really a tank that does both really well. Some might tell you you can close down a DTL tank and get an MTL hit, but if you're an MTL purist, it won't be a good MTL hit. For DTL, I don't have an opinion that'd be worth anything.
 

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:shock: Oh heavens no!! I was in agreement with every thing you said up to that point.

Did you actually make your own stainless steel mesh wicks? That was the downfall of Genesis-style RTA's for me. I could never wrap a SS mesh wick small enough to fit into that tiny wick hole. Plus, they were not ideal for out-and-about use because they leaked when the tank was turned sideways. Yet, to get the mesh to wick properly you had to do the Genny Tilt maneuver.

The Genesis-style AGA-T RTA was my first rebuildable anything, and it was so unsuccessful it turned me off from rebuilding for several months. I eventually purchased pre-built mesh wicks, but you still had to deal with the other stuff. Then I got the Kayfun-style Svoemesto Kayfun Lite RTA. Now that was a bit tricky to wick, but once you learned that skill it was an excellent RTA. Strictly for MTL only, though.

IMHO, the Genesis-style RTA's were a poor design from the get go. Does anyone still use them? :unsure:

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My Genesis-style AGA-T RTA's. With the tank being below the build deck, you're constantly fighting gravity for wicking.

I did.. Yes they were a pain in the rear.... I also use to make an SS mesh slug build on my Hellfire dripper...

I still have my torch somewhere :p
 

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I’ve made up my mind and I’m getting that Zeus dual rta :evil:
Oh, not THAT one- anything but that one! Big mistake!
Just kidding. Good luck. Member since Tuesday, already on your 2nd tank (and 2nd profile pic).
You'll probably be needing this link: Shinyitis Support Group
 

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I have a friend who is an RTA user and he is aways sporting a new tank. Saw him this morning while playing racquetball and asked what he would recommend for a beginner, single coil with great flavor.

He said he has been using the Serpent Elevate for a month now and loves it. Easy build, single, great flavor, top fill and top air intake...

I have no clue about the tank but take his word for it.... Might be worth a look as well...
 
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