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We shouldn't talk about the political/profit/corruption basis and motivations of this circus in this part of ECF. Nor the way that such things are commonly used to divert public attention away from other things. Discussing any other act in that circus is talking about the headache and ignoring the brain tumour that causes it.
So I won't.
I so feel for you folks, makes Brexit look like a mere sideshow 8(
Love.
So I won't.
I so feel for you folks, makes Brexit look like a mere sideshow 8(
Love.
First death in UK is attributed to "oil in lungs". Interesting. Goes all the way back to 2010
Factory worker believed to be first Brit death linked to mystery vaping disease
Doesn't directly say he vaped THC/CBD or not. Unless I missed it.
The lack of details here is disturbing, but it's hard to go back that far I suppose. Also, what factory work?
Factory worker believed to be first Brit death linked to mystery vaping disease
Doesn't directly say he vaped THC/CBD or not. Unless I missed it.
The lack of details here is disturbing, but it's hard to go back that far I suppose. Also, what factory work?
He died in 2010. And he vaped. Mysteriously he worked in a factory. It's the Daily Star. His wife is upset.
Yeah, observations all agreed to by me.
I edited. I did find it interesting though, and that it went back to 2010.
I edited. I did find it interesting though, and that it went back to 2010.
Another version of the story. Includes a video about how "vaping may be worse than smoking" and also an embedded link to a story stating that there's a call for a national tracking database in the UK.
Brit suspected to be first to die from condition linked to vaping
Watchdog dossier reveals 200 health problems linked to vaping
Point being...momentum or domino effect.
Not that there's anything wrong with tracking impacts.
Brit suspected to be first to die from condition linked to vaping
Watchdog dossier reveals 200 health problems linked to vaping
Point being...momentum or domino effect.
Not that there's anything wrong with tracking impacts.
I commented somewhere on here that UK and/or EU may row along in the wake of the USA's steam boat to hell. We seem to be going a little faster than that.
I'm going to start on a little stocking up, have plenty of devices and parts, need to think about the liquids. Slowly, no panic, yet.
I'm going to start on a little stocking up, have plenty of devices and parts, need to think about the liquids. Slowly, no panic, yet.
I've discovered that gross over-consumption of water, or consuming normal amounts of water which have been contaminated can cause severe illness or even death! Our teens are attracted to this demon substance, especially when the purveyors of this death-brew add flavorings. Urge your representatives to act fast against this killer scourge. 
You mean DHMO? That stuff is BAD!I've discovered that gross over-consumption of water, or consuming normal amounts of water which have been contaminated can cause severe illness or even death! Our teens are attracted to this demon substance, especially when the purveyors of this death-brew add flavorings. Urge your representatives to act fast against this killer scourge.
Dihydrogen Monoxide Research Division - dihydrogen monoxide info
I guess the train has left the station on cigarettes, and come back into the station. The settlements have been paid, the warnings posted on the packaging, the taxes hiked into the stratosphere, smoking banned in most public venues and hotel rooms, flavors banned, though you can still buy clove cigarettes and strawberry bidi on the internet, from foreign countries.
Yes! Saw this earlier this morn, commented on another thread. Anyone take note that poor Ben stated he got his THC products from dispensaries?
"This video was intended to show you that the media does not have your best interest at heart. The United States government does not have your best interest at heart."
Oh come one, who would believe that?
Oh come one, who would believe that?
He isn't the first. There's been reports of dodgy THC cartridges found in dispensaries/pharmacies before now. It doesn't seem to be attracting attention though. Even on here most new posts on the subject are talking about black market. It's definitely an elephant in the room.
When I brought this up (and linked this article which refers to some Oregon dispensary cartridges: The Rest of the Story: Tobacco and Alcohol News Analysis and Commentary: In Response to Two Deaths Due to Marijuana Vaping, Oregon Health Department Recommends Ban on Nicotine-Containing Electronic Cigarettes) in another area, I was promptly told to go read "Black Market 101" -
I don't know what's going on. But I don't trust those carts, legal or not, until we learn what's causing this.
When I brought this up (and linked this article which refers to some Oregon dispensary cartridges: The Rest of the Story: Tobacco and Alcohol News Analysis and Commentary: In Response to Two Deaths Due to Marijuana Vaping, Oregon Health Department Recommends Ban on Nicotine-Containing Electronic Cigarettes) in another area, I was promptly told to go read "Black Market 101" -
I don't know what's going on. But I don't trust those carts, legal or not, until we learn what's causing this.
Yeah I remember that.
When I brought this up (and linked this article which refers to some Oregon dispensary cartridges: The Rest of the Story: Tobacco and Alcohol News Analysis and Commentary: In Response to Two Deaths Due to Marijuana Vaping, Oregon Health Department Recommends Ban on Nicotine-Containing Electronic Cigarettes) in another area, I was promptly told to go read "Black Market 101" -
I don't know what's going on. But I don't trust those carts, legal or not, until we learn what's causing this.
The problem with dispensaries is they are only state regulated. States have a department of health and do license pharmacies, but while they know how to inspect for proper prescription filling and preventing diversion of controlled drugs (which they don't do great at to begin with), they have no specialty experience in actual drug manufacturing. And the bottom line is that once you're beyond loose leaf (or flower or whatever it's called) you are essentially making a drug. There are no best practices from the FDA. There are no FDA inspectors who know what to look for in a manufacturing plant, even a small one like what supply these dispensaries.
I'm not surprised some third party, less than prepared under GMP, cartridges ended up in some state licensed stores. With rules for operation even varying from state to state it's even harder to assure quality control across multiple jurisdictions. This is the problem of varying regulation of an industry that until recently was really an illegal operation. If it were done on a standardized basis, which would mean federal approval, then third party "counterfeit" products would be far less likely to end up in stores. But right ow it's all cobbled together with insufficient oversight on the product being sold itself.
Of course that has nothing to do with flavors in vape juice. It's simply a way to conflate the issue and allow them to declare "emergencies" which really don't exist just to get votes from scared parents. What's going to happen when all those kids are still happily vaping away on "tobacco flavored" Juuls? Use that as an excuse for a complete ban on the industry? Because it seems like that's their goal.
OTOH, if they tried to shut down those cannabis dispensaries, they know the public screeching they would be bombarded with, so we're the low hanging fruit they can offer up instead.
Nevertheless in the interest of accurate reporting, the lack of which is what is so disturbing the vaping community, consumers need to be told that not only black market thc products are dodgy. More should have been made of that revelation.
I’ve been using carts for a couple years, it’s always been known that there were blackmarket carts floating around with jebus knows what in them. Luckily my buddy knows a dead customer won’t be a repeat buyer.
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