Annoyed with sub-ohm and lack of education.
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Thank you for taking the time and effort to build Steam Engine. I must say the mere act of using your site and playing around with the numbers has taught me an immense amount about Ohm's law, heat flux, battery drain, etc. I'm sure most will agree that the vaping community is much better off with Steam Engine than without it.
Seconded, I was messing around with Steam Engine well before I bought my first mech and rda it has made me a more confident and safer vaper.
Calm down
I didn't say that those non vapers totally educate themselfes about every danger that comes up or could come up vaping or are researching it. I just said I was warned about the danger using e-cigs. Their knowledge is just based on a bunch of media BS.
It's not as often here in the states as it was back in Germany.
Haven't read it here but in a German forum.
Frenchman injured by exploding e-cigarette - The Local
I agree and as long as the user understands that the calculator gives you a good estimate as what your build will be, the build is not safe until you have checked it on your own equipment. The calculators are a great tool in conjunction with testing after the build.
And anyone that has put the time and effort into programming one shouldn't feel the least bit guilty about it. If the calculator let's the user become complacent and fire a build they have not tested that is on the user not the calculator programmer.
Many good points brought up in this thread. I have been wondering myself if it isn't time the industry came out with a new connection type for mods and atties to help set at least some safety standard. I think if they came up with a new thread type or post size for tanks such as the new sub-tanks and then had the same connection types on regulated mods we could keep the uneducated safe, well more safe anyway. The idea someone would screw one of these onto a direct connect mod is pretty scary.
Calm down
I didn't say that those non vapers totally educate themselfes about every danger that comes up or could come up vaping or are researching it. I just said I was warned about the danger using e-cigs. Their knowledge is just based on a bunch of media BS.
It's not as often here in the states as it was back in Germany.
Haven't read it here but in a German forum.
Frenchman injured by exploding e-cigarette - The Local
My point still stands, sure I hear non-vapers spouting off formaldehyde junk, or those are worse than cigarettes regurgitated monologues they hear from the media. But I find it highly unlikely that the non-vaper approaches someone talking about the dangers of battery safety in subohm applications.
I could probably start asking people on the street right now what they thought about that subject and wouldn't get an answer other than "I dunno" for years.
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Not a bad idea. But then toppers like the Subtank had to be strictly for sub-ohm. As soon as you use a higher (or safe to vape unregulated) ohm coil, you wouldn't be able to vape that unregulated.
Unless there are unregulated mods that have the same thread. Then again there is the danger that an uninformed vaper uses a subohm coil on that device.
You understand what I mean?
Sure. You're absolutely right. A non vaper wouldn't care about subohm by any means. I just said I was warned about using ecigs (not even bc of formaldehydes but the batteries) in general. Not subohm. Sorry if you got me wrong.
Where do these new, uneducated vapers get the idea that they need to subohm at high power levels to get a good vape?
Well then I apologize, in a thread talking about subohm applications and the lack of safety precautions to those who partake in it, I hope you can see how I misunderstood. Vape on.
Yeah, sorry, too.Well then I apologize, in a thread talking about subohm applications and the lack of safety precautions to those who partake in it, I hope you can see how I misunderstood. Vape on.
I didn't make myself that clear. So let's both just keep on taking a deep vape peacefully.
Yeah, sorry, too.
I didn't make myself that clear. So let's both just keep on taking a deep vape peacefully.
Sounds good group vape in 3...2..1...
One reason could be Youtube.
What I've seen there made my hair vanish really quickly. Before I watched some of those videos I had hair like Jon Bon Jovi. Now I'm bald.
I wasn't trying to rule anyone out of using any type of gear but I know that my local B&M is currently selling almost nothing other than one version of sub-tank or another paired with one of the regulated mods they sell to people looking to "step up" in their vaping. On the surface it isn't a bad idea as these folks can now try subohm vaping safely as long as their mods have built in safety precautions but you know people are mixing and matching gear which is where the problems arise.
To the points made earlier: throw one of these tanks with the .5ohm head on a cheap .... mech mod running a ___fire battery and sooner or later the result is not a good one.
To the points made earlier: throw one of these tanks with the .5ohm head on a cheap .... mech mod running a ___fire battery and sooner or later the result is not a good one.
Cool story.
You can't fix stupid.
You need by law, a motorcycle endorsement on your lisc, and a helmet in most states.
Sorry to hear about a death, but mommy won't win.
I personally found the whole thing ridiculous, but it happened. I'm sure she lost or I would've read the story again.
You can just get a temps with a written test.
Requirement to wear a helmet doesn't mean people do.
My point by the post is IMO it is not the manufacturer's fault. This was entirely on the young man. Yes, I'm sorry he lost his life, but he is the one to blame.
Brick and Mortar, store you can physically go to.
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