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batteries are supposed to have the Overcharge protection built in. The circuit will interrupt charge when full. This unfortunately is not always the case. Some batteries can be turned off. They will still charge - so tecnically they are still live.
Often batteries are dropped, resulting in no external damage and all looks well. This is not to say the internal structure has not been compromised.
This is the same with any electronic device and once powered things can go wrong quickly.
We cannot ban everything on the assumption that some day under the right conditions something may possibly happen.
You find a problem you find a fix. Where would we be if everything we didn't like was stopped...........oh wait, we're there
They can. Tiny wires can carry hundreds of volts as long as they do not exceed rated amperage.
Check your door bell wiring - often 110v but only .2-.5amp
Often batteries are dropped, resulting in no external damage and all looks well. This is not to say the internal structure has not been compromised.
This is the same with any electronic device and once powered things can go wrong quickly.
We cannot ban everything on the assumption that some day under the right conditions something may possibly happen.
You find a problem you find a fix. Where would we be if everything we didn't like was stopped...........oh wait, we're there
They can. Tiny wires can carry hundreds of volts as long as they do not exceed rated amperage.
Check your door bell wiring - often 110v but only .2-.5amp
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Batteries are supposed to have the Overcharge protection built in. The circuit will interrupt charge when full. This unfortunately is not always the case. Some batteries can be turned off. They will still charge - so tecnically they are still live.
Often batteries are dropped, resulting in no external damage and all looks well. This is not to say the internal structure has not been compromised.
This is the same with any electronic device and once powered things can go wrong quickly.
We cannot ban everything on the assumption that some day under the right conditions something may possibly happen.
You find a problem you find a fix. Where would we be if everything we didn't like was stopped...........oh wait, we're there
Here's the uncut footage from the report. This footage was edited to run in Strickland's segment.
Web Extra: Woman describes explosion from E-Cigarette | www.wsbtv.com
You can clearly see where she showed how she treated her battery before charging. Via email, Strickland told me that the woman said the instructions told her that it was Ok to plug it into a USB port and this was only the third time she'd charged it.
I pointed him to this thread.
Pounding a battery like she explains once is bad enough. Twice is pushing it. Third time is a
The only bad battery I have had I did myself tried a old ego on a coil with my ithaka which if I'm honest I knew wasn't up to scratch started smoking and would fire constantly even if I wasn't pushing the button grabbed some salt some water and drowned the battery if your going to play with fire at least know where the water is
Regardless of how she treated her eGos, this is what the media will latch on to.
As more and more people get into vaping, this kind of thing will happen more and more often.
I think all vendors and B&M stores in particular, have a responsibly to try to educate anyone buying a starter kit.
As more and more people get into vaping, this kind of thing will happen more and more often.
I think all vendors and B&M stores in particular, have a responsibly to try to educate anyone buying a starter kit.
I couldn't agree more.
In one of the earlier battery venting incidents, the fellow had two battery component systems. The one that vented was shown right next to one that hadn't. It was clear from the imagery that the one still operational had been abused. It had scratches and what looked like dents or gouges in the casing.
It's like dropping a cell phone from a second story window onto concrete, noticing that the unit would still power on, and then connecting it to a charger to see if the battery was still safe. I mean, come on...
Granted, she should have been educated by her dealer on proper care and maintenance. But doesn't she own part of the responsibility, here? Shouldn't she have realized that anything you "plug in" can be dangerous?
I've suspected that the battery was damaged (banged around), causing the failure (as it was designed).
I think every charger should have published Volt & Amps, In and Out; I'd be wary if it didn't.
IMO, all USB chargers should work on a PC port. It still wouldn't make them i-diot-proof; the only way around that is if the charger was built into the e-cig, and recharged using a micro-usb cable, as is now standard with cellphones.
I think every charger should have published Volt & Amps, In and Out; I'd be wary if it didn't.
IMO, all USB chargers should work on a PC port. It still wouldn't make them i-diot-proof; the only way around that is if the charger was built into the e-cig, and recharged using a micro-usb cable, as is now standard with cellphones.
Sucks that this will be milked for all it's worth in the quest to ban e-cigs. Especially considering this is not an e-cig problem, but a rubbish electronics problem. It's easy to blame it on "user error". I choose to blame it on manufacturers and vendors. Even in the case of user error, which is prone to happen, batteries should not explode. Those kinds of batteries should not be used in e-cigs.
I'm not one to call for regulations of e-cigs, but I have no problem calling for regulation on what batteries and chargers can be sold for e-cig use.
Any vendor who don't want to be banned out of business should take this very seriously.
I'm not one to call for regulations of e-cigs, but I have no problem calling for regulation on what batteries and chargers can be sold for e-cig use.
Any vendor who don't want to be banned out of business should take this very seriously.
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Good one IBCR !
I always wonder at people who use damaged cell phones !!!
Lordy knows what spurious radiations are emitted ?
Then again , these are the kind of people who's brain is their second favourite organ (no prizes for who said that expression first and the trouble their first favourite got them into!)
I wouldn't worry about it; these batteries are used in RC, and *most* RC'ers know them very well. It's not uncommon for them to deliberately blow one up, when it reaches its end-of-life.
The communication protocol for USB is pretty solid; if a device is found to draw too much power from a USB port, it'll get disabled. Obviously, there's nothing in the USB protocol about using the wrong battery, on the wrong charger...
So.........that 8' Shark was really a Beta in a fish bowl
To bad she wasn't using that nice PC to visit ECF and learn.
I love the - I was told, I was told.............. and you listened.
To bad she wasn't using that nice PC to visit ECF and learn.
I love the - I was told, I was told.............. and you listened.
You will notice that the article estimates 3.5 million devices in use. If that is the case, a handful of battery incidents is actually an exceptional record.
Instead, the media will play it as if there are 3.5 million little time bombs out there waiting to go off.
One of the jobs of ECF and any vendor is to educate. Lithium batteries can be dangerous and proper handling should be part of the initial buying experience for all new vapers.
Yes, most of the responsibility is hers but the industry should take on some measures to ensure there is a future for vaping.
Instead, the media will play it as if there are 3.5 million little time bombs out there waiting to go off.
One of the jobs of ECF and any vendor is to educate. Lithium batteries can be dangerous and proper handling should be part of the initial buying experience for all new vapers.
Yes, most of the responsibility is hers but the industry should take on some measures to ensure there is a future for vaping.
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The thing is though, the battery didn't "explode." It merely vented. While a venting incident can be spectacular, at least it didn't go off like a hand grenade. Like I pointed out earlier, if there really was a wall shaking KABOOM, there wouldn't be a relatively intact battery compartment. Instead, there would be a collection of shredded metal. Assuming someone wanted to dig the shrapnel out of her flesh, her dogs' flesh, the guitar bodies and the drywall the axes are hung on, that is.
Also, the PC appears to be intact. Show me a computer that can survive a wall shaking KABOOM from a device plugged right into the front of it, and I'll show you a PC that DHS and DoD would be very interested in acquiring.
For some reason I feel more secure using my RC Li-ions. They are unsheathed and can be visually inspected before/after every use. The charger I use test, charges and balances the cells and will REFUSE to charge anything not reading properly.
If anyone is not aware. The sealed batteries have a gap internally to allow for Battery Swelling under charge. Li-ion do that under normal conditions. Do Not Bang them around.
If anyone is not aware. The sealed batteries have a gap internally to allow for Battery Swelling under charge. Li-ion do that under normal conditions. Do Not Bang them around.
She states that the charger came with the unit. IMO this would put the root cause in the vendors court because it's clearly the wrong charger. As more and more B&M's open up around the country, we are going to see many more of them that just view e-cigs as a cash crop, and don't know or don't care what is safe or not. They're just there for the bucks.
My guess is it vented and shot off into the laptop and ricocheted... the hit on the laptop was the kaboom. Sounds are different to everyone. It is all in perception.
Stupid me accidentally left a spinner plugged in last night. Dangit if I didn't get ready to make a cup of coffee and the stupid light was bright green. I am human, fortunately it was cool to the touch.
Indeed I didn't believe the part about a wall shaking KABOOM. "Explode" was a poor choice of words. However, I still stand by my statement about using batteries of unknown chemistries for vaping purposes. I wouldn't use batteries of unknown chemistry for any purpose and find it scary to think of all the "the average vaper" running around with these things. Not trying to sound elitist. Just thinking "the average vaper" don't read ECF and care more about their devices than which end to suck on. As is very understandable.
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ignorance is a choice. that half of America embraces(being generous) the vendors B&M or online need to make safety issues apparent or this will keep happening. When I got mine I looked online and educated myself (still only know the basics) but MOST vendors just try to get you in and out leavening a couple bucks on the counter. I feel that vendors and consumers would be well served to have basic safety info supplied at time of sale. However this won't stop people in to much of a rush to listen/read.
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