I forgot to mention the occasional replay of "Boo Got Shot." Royal was great!
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I forgot to mention the occasional replay of "Boo Got Shot." Royal was great!
Forget that! Boo got shot! I can't find the original TV news report and the mixes I see for it on youtube probably aren't appropriate here.
Edit - D'oh, Cavediver touched on that, lol. Hey Cavediver, since you live in Buford did you ever hear the "Little Buford" piece. I think that is one of the few times Neal got in trouble for his on air antics.
GRrrrrr,
My pregnant wife, Who I just got to be more accepting of my mod and cwist (she uses cigalike and hated me using the larger batteries)
Just started to have a little piece of mind from her for about a month
and now this she emailing me this story (not happy)
and it doesn't help when this ecig store owner talking about she doesn't leave dishwasher on unattended
just sounds like justification to some one who like most people have had dishwasher just like charging cell phone batteries while sleeping leaving the house. To be honest it wasn't till using ego batteries and this forum I started to learn about battery safety
and to the average person hearing well leaving the dishwasher on is dangerous just sound like bad excuse
not a good morning
My pregnant wife, Who I just got to be more accepting of my mod and cwist (she uses cigalike and hated me using the larger batteries)
Just started to have a little piece of mind from her for about a month
and now this she emailing me this story (not happy)
and it doesn't help when this ecig store owner talking about she doesn't leave dishwasher on unattended
just sounds like justification to some one who like most people have had dishwasher just like charging cell phone batteries while sleeping leaving the house. To be honest it wasn't till using ego batteries and this forum I started to learn about battery safety
and to the average person hearing well leaving the dishwasher on is dangerous just sound like bad excuse
not a good morning
GRrrrrr,
My pregnant wife, Who I just got to be more accepting of my mod and cwist (she uses cigalike and hated me using the larger batteries)
Just started to have a little piece of mind from her for about a month
and now this she emailing me this story (not happy)
and it doesn't help when this ecig store owner talking about she doesn't leave dishwasher on unattended
just sounds like justification to some one who like most people have had dishwasher just like charging cell phone batteries while sleeping leaving the house. To be honest it wasn't till using ego batteries and this forum I started to learn about battery safety
and to the average person hearing well leaving the dishwasher on is dangerous just sound like bad excuse
not a good morning
Absolute safety is an illusion. Everything carries risk, from getting out of bed to climbing K2. The way we approach that risk gives us whatever measure of safety we have. In this case, buying quality batteries from a reputable source, using a quality charger, and maintaining those batteries in the appropriate fashion are the things you can do to prevent incidents like this. That said, there's (again) no guarantee your genuine Panasonic battery won't vent, but I'd have a much higher level of confidence in those than a $0.79 510 battery from an unknown source on a $1.98 charger.
ETA: You should highlight the 3.5 million number mentioned in that article and point out the likelihood of an electrical appliance or a worn outlet causing a house fire is much, much higher than something like this.
In the end, make sure you're around while your batteries are charging, and try to pick an outlet where potential damage will be minimized. If that means the garage or carport, so be it.
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Maybe not the right place to ask this, but it's timely I guess. I have an iTaste VV v3 battery. It came with a USB-USB mini charging cable but no wall wart. I've been using my iPhone wall wart to charge it, which I believe is rated at 5V / 1 Amp. My original eGo batteries came with their own wall wart, which is rated at 5V / 2 Amps. Would it be unwise to use the 2 Amp wall wart to charge the iTaste?
I used it one time, carefully supervised, and all went well, I checked the battery several times and it never got warm, it turned itself off when finished as usual and read 4.2 volts on the device when finished. Charging seemed to take the same amount of time as the 1 Amp wall wart.
Do the amps make a difference in this kind of application, or is it just the volts.
I used it one time, carefully supervised, and all went well, I checked the battery several times and it never got warm, it turned itself off when finished as usual and read 4.2 volts on the device when finished. Charging seemed to take the same amount of time as the 1 Amp wall wart.
Do the amps make a difference in this kind of application, or is it just the volts.
I handled it I sent her article's of cell phone batteries exploding and explained a few things
but all I am saying is just saying I wouldn't leave home without turning my dishwasher off
with that tone of its common sense when most people don't think like that
looks bad to some one who does not use ecigg or know any better
and sounds to the rest of the nonvaping world like a cheep excuse to justify dangerous behavior
just if were honest without vaping experience I never heard of anyone or some other reason we would be exposed to more then the normal battery knowledge
thinking about safety when turning on a dishwasher or charging a cellphone
is not something most people think of as a concern
does not mean there are not dangers but needs to be said in a better way
not with a its just common sense attitude, because No most people don't know better
Its not the first time I've seen this kind of reply
and with new regulations looming it does not help our situation
The 2a charger will charge your battery faster, but that's not necessarily a good thing. A slow charge is usually a good charge. We don't want the chemicals in batteries of unknown quality to get too excited. I don't have any idea who makes the batteries in the VV V3. They may be just fine.
As a helpful hint: If you can pull your battery off of the charger when it reaches 4.1v, you will greatly extend its life. Since the VV V3 has its battery self contained, extending the battery life extends the life of your device.
I agree. E-cig should never have been mentioned as it was not involved in the incident, only the rechargeable battery. Bad reporting.
Okay, so I did a little poking around. Seems the eHit only comes with the eGo style regulated charger (the one that has the little ovel box with the green and red LED and a short 12in or so cord leading to a USB plug), NOT the charger she used to plug it into her laptop. If you notice in one of the pictures on the site the charger has a "4.2V Battery" in that red circle with the line going through it that we all know means "NO".
Her battery was probably rated for 4.2V. It's her own stupidity.
This will probably be an unpopular opinion but, if it is true that she bought the charger/ecig as a combo and was told "this is how you charge it" then it is not user error. She used it as directed from a vendor and she assumed they knew what they were talking about. That is what I did when I bought my first mall kit. Took it home and plugged it in.
No batteries should go around exploding. I don't care what I am using the battery for I don't want it exploding when I charge it. Anyway, that is just my thoughts on that.
No batteries should go around exploding. I don't care what I am using the battery for I don't want it exploding when I charge it. Anyway, that is just my thoughts on that.
The battery didn't "explode". It vented as it was designed to do.
But I do tend to agree with the rest of your post in that the vendor needs to accept some responsibility and own up to the type of things they're selling.
But I do tend to agree with the rest of your post in that the vendor needs to accept some responsibility and own up to the type of things they're selling.
I would have to agree.
While the evidence we see here would indicate that the wrong charger was used, we do not know what was actually sold to this person and what she was told when she bought that kit.
I feel that the industry must show greater responsibility in educating the consumer. Vendors can make sure they instruct any buyer of starter kits. Manufacturers can create better manuals. We, the existing vaping community, can pressure vendors and manufacturers to take those measures.
Lets face it. Vaping is being attacked from many directions. We do not need this as well.
I know another device that's far more dangerous and proven to kill 1000's of people each year...it's called cigarettes. But of course Big Brother over looks that and now will focus on all things...batteries. SMH...
Maybe it's because she ignored a warning label and used the product not intended for it's useThe battery didn't "explode". It vented as it was designed to do.
But I do tend to agree with the rest of your post in that the vendor needs to accept some responsibility and own up to the type of things they're selling.
Take a close look
What do you see here?
Gunbuster 4.2v, looks like she used an OLD 510 USB 5vdc charger from one of them old gas station e-cig stick packs on a 4.2vdc eGo battery...
Guarantee that USB charger did NOT come with that eGo battery
hmmmmmmmmm
It wasn't the vendors fault this lady didn't follow directions...
Totally agree. While this looks like user error, vendors absolutely have a responsibility to communicate risks. Open any user manual for a laptop, cell phone, tablet or electric device and you get about 15 pages of warnings and recommendations for safe use.
The problem we might face is this:
While FDA can't do a damned thing about batteries going thermal (that's the realm of the Consumer Product Safety Commission), there's still enough uncertainty out there to arouse the ire of ANTZ activists.
Our devices contain no such warnings in the user manuals, and yes, that's a problem.
Given the lack of such documentation, any user should be alarmed, and shouldn't use the electronic/electric device without finding out what constitutes safe use. A long time ago, a McDonalds drive-up window worker could hand a customer a hot cup of coffee and not worry that the customer would know that it's hot, and to be careful.
Those days have changed a bit, but more and more, consumers are expected to "know, could know, or should know" what the risks are before using any product.
I always feel like these types of articles should be accompanied by another article detailing all the thousands of forest fires that have been sparked by carelessly tossed cigarette butts.
A few isolated battery incidents vs thousand of fires that cause millions in damage.. And which one does the media pick up on?
Some estimates say that 90,000 forest fires are cause by cigarette smokers per year in the USA alone!!
A few isolated battery incidents vs thousand of fires that cause millions in damage.. And which one does the media pick up on?
Some estimates say that 90,000 forest fires are cause by cigarette smokers per year in the USA alone!!
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Yep. user error,i recently got a few 510 kits and when the batteries were plugged in to the charger that came with the kit, the batteries were violently hot,luckily i was standing there watching them......still figuring out ... to do as of yet,going back and forth with supplier.....but just keep an eye on charging these batts ,could cause big problems.me thinks Q-A west of the border, is being ignored.
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