Anybody Using A Kabuki?

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@cllmda i think the explanation is a few pages back, a slight edge for the p3... There was a few lines from zen about it that were shared

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Ive been trying to read thru the WHOLE thread for the past few weeks but...ok... sometimes I do fast forward a bit ;) ...musta missed it ;...will go back...Thanks for letting me know!
 

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That's around where I have my power settings. Which is way past spec on the coil. How much do you get out of the coils regarding ml before you feel it must be changed?

I've lowered it to spec but it's just too anemic of a vape for my tastes. Not worth getting another 10 ml or so out of it at that cost. Wondering if perhaps the juice i am vaping just allows for noticing it more or if everyone is getting similar life from the coils.

I can load up a super loud juice flavor or similar in a semi useful Coil And it tastes ok but not for more sensitive / delicate/layered taste

So as a group question how many ml are you typically vaping per coil before changing and at what power settings?

I'd say on average I get 30-40 ml per coil. Changing about every 7-10 days. My ADV is Jimmy the Juiceman's Shurb.


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Thanks Madangus ....

Ive been trying to read thru the WHOLE thread for the past few weeks but...ok... sometimes I do fast forward a bit ;) ...musta missed it ;...will go back...Thanks for letting me know!
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Here's one for "what everyone says"--- Supposedly the original Nauti coils were only good from X-Z wattage ( I don't remember the numbers). I just had to laugh when I read that they simply don't perform until you get to X. As reading I was happily vaping under X and had been using the Nauti's for months. I heard it would ruin the coil, I'd get flooding.....on and on. Really? Not this vaper.

Then Nauti came out with the Cotton bigger hole version --- and those numbers changed to from X to BB. I'm still vaping way under X.

IMHO since the Kabuki is designed well, the professional "effective" range is probably higher. I have no clue "how high".

These upcoming Nauti Clapton coils look interesting to try--- but no matter what the "experts" say, I'll still be vaping them way under X and maybe even lower!

It actually is simple --- vape to taste. If the coil is drying too quickly it often means you are either vaping too hard or fast so the liquid isn't getting to the coil fast enough. Solution, alternate devices a lot and/or thin your liquid. Yes, it could be set too high too, but that only means that the coil isn't wicking fast enough.

I get around 30 mil per coil, usually. Could be more, I lose track. It's supposed to be less because I'm not vaping high enough watts -- but it seems my liquid usage per coil is rather "normal". I vape a medium clear liquid -- not too sweet nor too dry, higher pg than vg.
 
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I'd say on average I get 30-40 ml per coil. Changing about every 7-10 days. My ADV is Jimmy the Juiceman's Shurb.


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I'm right about here too.

3.7-4.3V on a coil reading 1.8.. currently at 7.5W approx, but that is a bit lower than usual.

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I have a friend that I've bought numerous pieces of equipment for her to vape with and she is still smoking. The reasons why are just absurd. Like if she stops smoking she will gain weight, be more anxious, she can smoke more than she can vape without getting too much nic, too hard to keep up with charging and cleaning her equipment, blah, blah, etc.... Then she caught a cold, went to the doctor who took a chest x-ray and he told her that her lungs looked clear. So according to her, smoking isn't bad for her.

She was just over my house and I showed her the Radius. In just a few seconds, she found 6 faults with it without even touching it. It's too big, it makes too much clouds, don't like the drip tip, don't like the black protective cover, display too small, would lose the micro-usb cover. Makes me want to scream. Though this is part of her make up. She tends to over think everything. While it's good in some ways, it takes the fun out of a lot of things.
 

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It took about a tank maybe a little more to get the flavor going with a new Atty, flavor is good, Vapor is thick its working well for me now. Thanks all for talking me through it. Didn't pick up a smoke!!!!
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I know this will be received by HooLIGAN as an insult, and it's simply not intended to be... but I have to say it.

Vaping should be about pleasure... not math. If every vapor analyzed every tiny detail, down to the exact amperage being drawn from the battery, it would have ZERO% chance of going mainstream.

I'm sure it's just the way he's wired, being an engineer, but it doesn't look to me like he's even having a good time on this vaping journey... it's become an intellectual pursuit rather than one of joy, or pleasure. It's my opinion, please don't shoot the messenger. If he's happy being that way, who am I to say he shouldn't be? But... I just see post after angst filled post, dissecting it further and further apart. It just doesn't look like he's actually enjoying his LIFE as a vaper.

I design vaping gear... but I turn all that off when I vape. I sit back and enjoy it, I don't think about it constantly. When I'm designing, I'm all-in... but when it's time to vape... I sit back... I relax... and I enjoy every minute of it. I don't expect or demand perfection, because honestly, I don't even know what that is. It's an impossible dream.

SO I love what I have, and what I'm vaping, whatever it may be. I find joy in it. I love every minute of it.

I have no clue how many ohms my coil is at... I don't know how many volts or amps... I know the wattage the device claims to be at... but I'm not thinking about it.

I vape with my senses... I love every minute of it.

I kinda wish he could find the joy in vaping that I have, so he can let go of the intellectual pursuit and enjoy it. I really do.

I mean NO OFFENSE by this... It's my wish for him to find what he's looking for so he can enjoy it, like many of us already do.

Zen, I would like this more than once, had I the opportunity. I actually am relaxing into my vapes more and more these days, as I'm a bit worn out with the numbers, the learning, the constant comparisons, and the futile decision making processes based on a plethora of opinion.

I have a device I consider to be in my top three (maybe two). It has NO screen. There's no display showing me any numbers whatsoever. It vapes, and it purrs, and it is consistently perhaps the best vape I've ever had. It's my go-to for those reasons, coupled with the fact that it truly is a sensual and sensational and hedonistic vape.

Me likey.


Look everybody... Enjoy yourselves, take in the pleasure of vaping without all the math and science. It should be a sensual experience and not an intellectual pursuit.

Is thinking that so wrong?


Nah. Not in the slightest bit wrong.
 

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Here's one for "what everyone says"--- Supposedly the original Nauti coils were only good from X-Z wattage ( I don't remember the numbers). I just had to laugh when I read that they simply don't perform until you get to X. As reading I was happily vaping under X and had been using the Nauti's for months. I heard it would ruin the coil, I'd get flooding.....on and on. Really? Not this vaper.

Then Nauti came out with the Cotton bigger hole version --- and those numbers changed to from X to BB. I'm still vaping way under X.

IMHO since the Kabuki is designed well, the professional "effective" range is probably higher. I have no clue "how high".

These upcoming Nauti Clapton coils look interesting to try--- but no matter what the "experts" say, I'll still be vaping them way under X and maybe even lower!

It actually is simple --- vape to taste. If the coil is drying too quickly it often means you are either vaping too hard or fast so the liquid isn't getting to the coil fast enough. Solution, alternate devices a lot and/or thin your liquid. Yes, it could be set too high too, but that only means that the coil isn't wicking fast enough.

I get around 30 mil per coil, usually. Could be more, I loose track. It's supposed to be less because I'm not vaping high enough watts -- but it seems my liquid usage per coil is rather "normal". I vape a medium clear liquid -- not too sweet nor too dry, higher pg than vg.
Thanks for the input on volume. The design of the tank wouldn't impact what power a coil can handle. It's just the electricity going through the wire. What that action creates may vary based on the tank (flavor and vapor channeling) but the operational parameters of the coil wouldn't change based on tank design. Those parameters are 3.7-4.2 volts iirc. I think it's stamped on the coil.

Since the change I do believe they handle up to 4.7 reliably and seemingly without much reduction in life span. Once I head to five or so they start to degrade quickly with anything resembling a thick juice. I find them the be relatively thirsty coils. If I use it as my sole device and on a heavy day I can easily go through 2-3 tanks. Which is more than any other device I have including similarly specced tank sizes. I really don't know why some devices lose more in converting juice to vapor than others. I've got guesses but they don't matter.

Ultimately all we can really talk about is volume
Of juice we go through at given power before we all feel coils need to be replaced. I'm testing the flush theory (wash with 30 seconds super hot water then 30 seconds cold water then dry for a day or two) on two used coils. So far the results are it gave life of about two days back to a coil I thought was gone (and am flushing again now). Another one seemed to have nothing left to offer.

The coil that flushed well had thinner juice that wasn't as sweet vs the one that just went kaput. The sample size is so small we can't draw any conclusions. So I'm continuing to try and flush out coils I feel have stopped performing and then trying them again.

At the rate I vape with lower nicotine juice I'm looking at going a five pack in two weeks roughly. A lot more than I thought. But I've been enjoying these two juices I bought so much and mixed a bunch of 0 mg so I am also just chain. Vaping like crazy because it's so enjoyable.

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*Queen of puddings and lemon coconut cake from chefs in the uk. They sell in concentrate. Think making frozen lemonade. Rather than cooking dinner. Super easy and extremely inexpensive to boot. Should anyone be up for some new desert vapes. one 30 ml bottle has a mix ratio of 20% so you get around 150ml for about $13 in concentrate plus whatever you Pay for vg. Again I stress this isn't anything near regular DIY. It's super simple.

When my juice arrives from England I will definitively track volume of my adv and take it from there.

Has anyone tried third party coils available from the likes of fast tech? I doubt any of them are cotton or have the new wick holes. Just curious as they're half the price and have good reviews.
 

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Here's one for "what everyone says"--- Supposedly the original Nauti coils were only good from X-Z wattage ( I don't remember the numbers). I just had to laugh when I read that they simply don't perform until you get to X. As reading I was happily vaping under X and had been using the Nauti's for months. I heard it would ruin the coil, I'd get flooding.....on and on. Really? Not this vaper.

Then Nauti came out with the Cotton bigger hole version --- and those numbers changed to from X to BB. I'm still vaping way under X.

IMHO since the Kabuki is designed well, the professional "effective" range is probably higher. I have no clue "how high".

These upcoming Nauti Clapton coils look interesting to try--- but no matter what the "experts" say, I'll still be vaping them way under X and maybe even lower!

It actually is simple --- vape to taste. If the coil is drying too quickly it often means you are either vaping too hard or fast so the liquid isn't getting to the coil fast enough. Solution, alternate devices a lot and/or thin your liquid. Yes, it could be set too high too, but that only means that the coil isn't wicking fast enough.

I get around 30 mil per coil, usually. Could be more, I loose track. It's supposed to be less because I'm not vaping high enough watts -- but it seems my liquid usage per coil is rather "normal". I vape a medium clear liquid -- not too sweet nor too dry, higher pg than vg.
I've got he original BVC coil that came in my 2nd Kabuki. 1.6Ω 3.3 - 4.2 volts. That works out to about 11 watts on that coil. Righ now I'm running it around 6.5 watts. It works and tastes great! You are so right. I just adjust to taste. Cheers
 

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Yah I wouldn't say there's a ton of pondering. And testing. There's curiosity and some good reasons to have a rough idea of how long coils last. If you don't need that info or wish to participate that's fine. Some people may have their own reasons for gauging the coil life. It's probably the first question I get asked about the tank too.

Off topic of coil life. My beautiful dog just fell over in her tired state and didn't realize I had some stuff on the bed. Or couldn't see it. I was giving the kabuki a sonic clean. Now the screws are both potentially lost in the ether. Can't really blame her given she has one eye :). I didn't realize she was ot of bed!

Hopefully I can find them.
 
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Yah I wouldn't say there's a ton of pondering. And testing. There's curiosity and some good reasons to have a rough idea of how long coils last. If you don't need that info or wish to participate that's fine. Some people may have their own reasons for gauging the coil life. It's probably the first question I get asked about the tank too.

Off topic of coil life. My beautiful dog just fell over in her tired state and didn't realize I had some stuff on the bed. Or couldn't see it. I was giving the kabuki a sonic clean. Now the screws are both potentially lost in the ether. Can't really blame her given she has one eye :). I didn't realize she was ot of bed!

Hopefully I can find them.
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It actually is simple --- vape to taste.

Yeah... just vape it... enjoy it. Like the television... turn it up if ya can't hear it, down if it's too loud. No need to take the speaker impedance and calculate the wattage so it's at the "perfect" volume. Your senses can glean what you need. Thinking about it gets in the way.

Can you imagine this scenario:
Wife: Could you turn down the TV?
Husband: Why? It's at 33 watts, right where I like it!
Wife: But it's too loud!
Husband: Look, the speaker is 8Ω and everybody says with this speaker on that TV the best setting is 33 watts
Wife: Don't you think it's a little loud?
Husband: I've done the math, it's well within the power range, so it's not too loud.
Wife: But are you enjoying it?
Husband: Well, everybody says I should be, who am I to question them?

I love math and science... I love designing things that makes it so you don't have to love math and science, or even care if they exist... up or down... it's all you need.


I have a device I consider to be in my top three (maybe two). It has NO screen. There's no display showing me any numbers whatsoever. It vapes, and it purrs, and it is consistently perhaps the best vape I've ever had. It's my go-to for those reasons, coupled with the fact that it truly is a sensual and sensational and hedonistic vape.

Me likey.

I loved this: "sensual and sensational and hedonistic"

I took up vaping to quit smoking... it worked because it ignited my senses. I love me some senses... a whole lot.


The design of the tank wouldn't impact what power a coil can handle. It's just the electricity going through the wire.

no no NO NO NO... A thousand times no! Absolutely, positively, 100% incorrect.

Current going through a wire is only PART of the system that would effect coil life. The air going through the system has a HUGE impact on coil life. Positively HUGE. The amount of juice uptake has an even bigger impact. These things cool the coil in use and prevent thermal runaway when they are in balance. A tank is a closed system of inextricably intertwined characteristics some of which make an enormous impact on coil life. You cannot look at any single part of the system as standing alone.



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Well done Andy N.

Yeah man, well done!

How much can one really test and ponder and retest and think on something. Vape to taste. If it tastes bad throw it out. Move on.

I'm saying LET GO OF THE MATH AND SCIENCE, The numbers, the calculations, the "how much should I's" and the "what ifs?" and even the "how long should it's"... we are CONSUMERS... let's CONSUME! Let's ENJOY it... Let's let go of the thinking and get into the good stuff.

LET GO! Life is to ENJOY, not to analyze the living bejeezus out of it. It ruins the fun. Positively ruins it.
 
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