Anybody Using A Kabuki?

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Great post, Tea - thanks.

And here I sit, Dr. Destructo personified, having not yet broken even one Kabuki tank (CRACK!). Oh well...

Kidding. Seriously - a bit of caution works wonders. If I can do it, anyone can. I guess it should be said that mine only sit on box mods, and never leave the house (said, "bit of caution"). I've changed o-rings more than a couple of times too. Just very carefully. I treat it like it's made of glass. :blink:

As for borosilicate, ask any Billet Box owner how their Boro tanks are holding up. You've got a 50/50 chance there that something broke. Delrin, on the other hand, rocks. I wish ALL tanks were made like the BB delrins.

Just my two pennies. Carry on.
It is very possible that differing experiences are based on minute sample variations. It should be obvious to all that the glass is very stressed by the tight fit. A few microns here or there may take things over the edge.
 

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It could just be Power Ball Syndrome (luck of the draw)...

Glass breaks (duh), and tho we all know that, we hope it does not.

I have glass tanks for the Kabuki that are TOTALLLY misfits, and I mean they are completely the wrong size. Yet, they work, and for the most part, the work well. ("for the most part" has to do with the O ring sizes, not the glass)


None have broken. Yet.

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And just as an FYI to anyone interested in Phiniac glass for the Kabuki....

Phiniac buys glass from HoH, glass that had not passed cosmetic inspection. Yes, they may have minor imperfections, but Phiniac is so incredibly talented that they are able to cover any minor flaw with their patterns.

Then the glass becomes 'perfect' again. High praise to Phiniac.
 

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And just as an FYI to anyone interested in Phiniac glass for the Kabuki....

Phiniac buys glass from HoH, glass that had not passed cosmetic inspection. Yes, they may have minor imperfections, but Phiniac is so incredibly talented that they are able to cover any minor flaw with their patterns.

Then the glass becomes 'perfect' again. High praise to Phiniac.

Sandblasting works wonders covering up any imperfections in glass.
 

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i would certainly like to hear why he chose Quartz over Pyrex.

There are several reasons...

1) Quartz is dimensionally more predictable. All glass tubing can have variances, but Pyrex has a much wider range, and much of it will not fit.

2) Quartz does not retain smells and flavors... Pyrex does, and it gets nasty over time, which I really find to be unpleasant.

All glass can break... my decisions are based on the performance when it's not broken.

One of the reasons you hear of so many cases of broken tanks is that there are a LOT of these tanks in the market at this point. It's the most highly produced tank that is made in the USA. This means, you WILL see more examples of them being broken. I will mention that at this point we have sold in about a half a year, a number of Kabukis that is equal to the TOTAL of all of our previous atomizers combined... in the last 3 years! And we have sold 70% less replacement glass. I can't honestly say that means that this tank has a widespread cracking problem compared to others we have used, that utilize the same tank material, in fact it seems to be far less. That being said there ARE many options as well... there are tanks from Spectrum, Phiniac, Bedazzled AND now Fasttech (at crazy low prices by the way, you can live with a few chips, right?) plus we have the steel and poly options.. nobody HAS to use quartz if they don't want to.
 

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And just as an FYI to anyone interested in Phiniac glass for the Kabuki....

Phiniac buys glass from HoH, glass that had not passed cosmetic inspection. Yes, they may have minor imperfections, but Phiniac is so incredibly talented that they are able to cover any minor flaw with their patterns.

Then the glass becomes 'perfect' again. High praise to Phiniac.

Well huh, may explain my two glass breaks then. One stock Kabuki crystal tube cracked during a routine re-assembly. Ordered a couple custom jobs from Phiniac and...wammo! one of my nice custom tubes split right down the middle during a maintenance re-assembly. Said phppt to all of it and just bought stainless steel tanks. No more worries and I tend to keep my tanks topped off more. I still have two crystal tubes on a pair of Kabuki's, but those two sit atop vintage Provari's that will never leave my desk. I know there is always a possibility of glass breakage, it's the nature of the beast. Hence why they did'nt make plate armor out of blown glass. I have beaten the poo-juice out of the SS clad Kabuki's and they have taken it like a champ. I wish I had the knack of metal working and the proper tools because I would not hesitate to cut a SS tank and fabricate/install a transparent band of (shatter resistant) material towards the base for a juice peeper portal.
 

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Assuming everyone in the room has equal hearing at the same level we answer "us too!!!".

I sucked gallons of 12 and 18mg through a tootle puffer over the years. Lite up a cigarette right after to.

The day I hit a subohm at 6mg was the last day I smoked.

I don't understand how anyone could quit smoking with a TP but I'm happy for them it worked. And I expect the same.

I stopped a 30 p/day Marlb Red habit from one day to the next (without even really wanting to/ or trying ...) with one of those sh***y $ 9.99 throw-away's picked up as an afterthought at the checkout counter...

Granted though that after about two weeks of buying those I quickly "moved "on to a 510 Janty Dura with cartridges that I used to top-off with a bottle of 18mg eliquid.. then on to an ego+carto ...I probably would have relapsed if I hadnt found at least that to move on to (and this was 5 yrs ago when there wasnt as much choice available ;) ) but suffice it to say...you dont necessarily need to sub-ohm to be able to quit effortlessly ;)
 

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By the way just to let the Euro-Kabuki users know that Crème de Vape UK has finally received the Poly tanks many of us have been waiting for...

...though it's not so urgent anymore since FT now sells replacements in cheap 5 packs (about 6$-ish I think for a pack of five... :shock:)
I havent tried them out personally yet but others who have say they are decent enough plus Ive ordered some nice colored + clear Pyrex ones from Spectrum, they ship internationally for a reasonably low price via USPS.

However, I do think Zen is right that the best quality vape is with the GLASS tanks, if you dont have any/too many breakage problems,it's def the best option IMO.
 

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I stopped a 30 p/day Marlb Red habit from one day to the next (without even really wanting to/ or trying ...) with one of those sh***y $ 9.99 throw-away's picked up as an afterthought at the checkout counter...

Granted though that after about two weeks of buying those I quickly "moved "on to a 510 Janty Dura with cartridges that I used to top-off with a bottle of 18mg eliquid.. then on to an ego+carto ...I probably would have relapsed if I hadnt found at least that to move on to (and this was 5 yrs ago when there wasnt as much choice available ;) ) but suffice it to say...you dont necessarily need to sub-ohm to be able to quit effortlessly ;)

Vaping is an evolution more then a revolution.

And humans are all different and I think that gets forgotten alot here. Some people love shellfish. Some people don't care one way or the other. Some people hate shellfish. Some people die if they eat it. We all except that this is true but may think vaping is one size fits all.

And we all quit smoking differently. We had a truck driver at work that quit smoking one day just by not lighting up but he ALWAYS had a cigarette in his hand and a pack in his pocket. He's retired but last I knew it was 20 years he walked around with a unlit cigarette in his hand (changed as needed).

As vaping has evoled more people have been able to use it as a quitting method. Old fashioned ejuice was very heavy with PG. I'll only speak for myself but PG in even very small ammounts makes my chest feel like I vaped Drano. Now smoking caused problems to be sure but how long do you think I was gonna do something that made me feel like my chest was on fire?? Clearly not long.

So vaping was a dead issue for me.

Then 4-5 years ago I'm in Florida and this place at a Flea Market is pushing VG juice saying that ecigs may work for people who can't take the PG.

A seed was planted but time was short and back to NY. Vape shops were very rare then but I knew where one was. The owner was very pro PG and anti cloud and I was desperate to quit smoking. With a new bride and new life I wanted to be around for awhile so money changed hands (ALOT of money by todays standards) and a desperate man was a vapor. Except his throat was burnt. And he was thirsty. And he would have swore on a stack of bibles PG was equal parts Drano/Napalm/Kerosene. And he couldn't get any nicotine off those tiny puffs. I could literally stand there and vape 18mg juice and smoke a cigarette on my break like it was nothing. I was chain vaping high nic juice and chain smoking. At the end of the dual use phase I was smoking 2 PAD and pushing 7ml of 18ml juice a day.

But the hand to mouth thing had a solution. I was very happy vaping. The mind game was over. Now to take the body to task. I had figgered out by now that PG was a big problem and high VG juice was not to be found in NY so I started making my own. Now power becomes a problem. And wicking. And a bunch of other things. Getting tootle tanks to work with VG is tough. And things were very expensive so if you had a battle against PG you better have been prepared to spend some coin. And use a Dremel with diamond bits. I don't think very many people were willing to do this. I know now that RBA's would have worked but I didn't know anyone who did anymore then do the try/fail thing with store bought PG juice stuff and the innerweb didn't dawn on me to be honest.

Then subohm came to town for the masses. I realize now that many here on ECF have been subohm for years but ike I said, I didn't know about the innernet.

So I went mass market subohm. I learned real quick PG at subohm is a no go for me. I also learned that subohm puts the nic right where its needed and what nic sick was. I'd been drinking 12-18mg stuff for so long like it was tap water I just started subohming it. Learned me up real quick that did. Found that the feeling of being "full" was part of what was missing along with the hand to mouth and nicotine. And oh lord the nicotine. I'm still pretty hooked I guess but back then I was an outright addict. I found I could blast the nic right in and not think about it for hours. I only use low nic high power setups for when I'm in a situation where I have to get my fill and go without for sometime. For when I'm doing nothing, like watching TV, and am gonna be chain vaping I switch to a Kabuki/Nautilus/Kayfun setup with 12mg. I can chain vape and drink coffee until I go to bed so I'm lucky in that regard. Since my bladder has killed the sleeping through the nite thing for me I keep a subohm set up next to the bed for round the clock vaping.

Am I addicted to vaping?? I don't know, studies have shown that...........................are you kidding me?? I'm a stone cold vaping addict. I have different setups for every situation. I can function much better these days. If I can't vape I don't vape. When I smoked I was that sneaky smoker you have heard about. When I tootle puffed high PG I was the guy sneaking a puff allover the place. Now as long as I can get to a vaping area (I call it a vaping area because in the last 2 years every single one of us except one guy subohms on break) I can take afew big rips and I'm good. I have been in situations I had to go long periods without a vape and lets just say I ain't there yet..............................

So to me the vaping world now includes the tootle puffing PG vapers and now ME!!!!!

I am kinda currently under the vaping gun but its not even my fault. Some people are stealth vaping at work, younger people, and they are using some stinkie vape, RY4 I think. The smell is real bad and the non-smokers/vapers are up in arms. So management to on the hunt for vapers. And I blow the biggest cloudz so they are on me like white on rice. But I only vape scent free juice (carefully choosen to be such) and only in the approved areas so I'm legal. But as these stealth vapers continue to stink up very expensive equipment (we have a half million dollar piece of equipment that REEKS of RY4) they are just gonna ban vaping outright on site. I have taken these guys aside but they swear vape has no smell out of CE4's and such. So the end draws near. Hopefully by then I can go a full shift.
 

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cllmda said, "I stopped a 30 p/day Marlb Red habit from one day to the next (without even really wanting to/ or trying ...) with one of those sh***y $ 9.99 throw-away's picked up as an afterthought at the checkout counter..."

Surly to god this is a mis-type. I cant' imagine anyone smoking 30 packs a day!:eek:;)

For me, it was 2 1/2 pack a day, and the switch was almost immediate. Although I had tried sinuse, Patches, snuff. Nothing worked.

And they say that E-Cigs "Aren't a stop Smoking Device" BS Government.:-x
What they are really saying is that there is NO Big E-Cig like there is Big Tobacco putting money in their pockets. Don't' believe for a moment it is about our health and safety. It's what it has always been about. Money and Power!

Knife
 

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There are several reasons...

1) Quartz is dimensionally more predictable. All glass tubing can have variances, but Pyrex has a much wider range, and much of it will not fit.

2) Quartz does not retain smells and flavors... Pyrex does, and it gets nasty over time, which I really find to be unpleasant.

All glass can break... my decisions are based on the performance when it's not broken.

One of the reasons you hear of so many cases of broken tanks is that there are a LOT of these tanks in the market at this point. It's the most highly produced tank that is made in the USA. This means, you WILL see more examples of them being broken. I will mention that at this point we have sold in about a half a year, a number of Kabukis that is equal to the TOTAL of all of our previous atomizers combined... in the last 3 years! And we have sold 70% less replacement glass. I can't honestly say that means that this tank has a widespread cracking problem compared to others we have used, that utilize the same tank material, in fact it seems to be far less. That being said there ARE many options as well... there are tanks from Spectrum, Phiniac, Bedazzled AND now Fasttech (at crazy low prices by the way, you can live with a few chips, right?) plus we have the steel and poly options.. nobody HAS to use quartz if they don't want to.
Well, I'm honoured and flattered you replied, and so comprehensively too. i'm not surprised it's the most produced tank in the U.S. In my opinion its the best above-ohm, drop-in coil tank on the market today. I hope this inspires you to continue to design and produce newer tanks. You just keep making them the way you want, and I'm not the only one who will keep buying them.
 

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I've been using Spectrum Tanks on everything practically since Spectrum (Mike) opened the doors. I've had them on a few AGA-TX versions, ZAPs, ZAUs, Krakens, and a couple other gennies; Kayfuns, K4s, Erlkonigans, and Erlkonigan Nanos; Subtanks and now 5 Kabukis (three 510, two P3, and a Z2). I don't want to sound like a fanboy, and always try to "tell it like it is", but I've never had a fitment issue. I'm lazy and usually try to use the tanks with OEM o-rings, but there has been a couple cases where I needed to use Spectrum's o-rings which he includes with most (maybe all) tanks.

I used several IBT tanks before Spectrum was around as well. Mostly on carto tanks where the glass fits over o-rings on caps. IBT tanks are perfectly good as well, I just preferred Spectrum's colors (although I do like IBT's Prism line-up too).

As far as pyrex v fused quartz, yes, I've broken more quartz tanks then pyrex. It is definitely more brittle. I've also broken more of both when the glass is is fitted over the o-rings like with the Z-Attys/Kabuki rather then sandwiched between o-rings like the Foggatti/K4. Thinking back, over the nearly 4 years I've been vaping, I'd guess I've broken maybe 10 glass tanks and five of them have been fused quartz on ZAPs/ZAUs/Kabukis. I've broken two pyrex carto tanks and one Erlkonigan pyrex tank (the tank fits over the o-rings on both of these as well). I can only think of two I've broken in a "sandwiched" setup, one in a Foggatti T22 and one in a K4, and I'm not 100% sure, but I think the OEM glass on both the Foggatti and K4 is fused quartz.

If you're keeping count that's ratios of 8:2 internal o-rings to sandwiched between o-rings, and 7:3 fused quartz to pyrex.
 
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I really have to remember to tighten the coil everytime i refill my juice. Its stuck in the tank again. Too late to mess with it i will do it tomorrow lol

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Having to remove the coil from the top of the Kabuki could mean that the coils upper threads are causing more resistance than the lower threads.

So, It could just be one bad coil.

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Having to remove the coil from the top of the Kabuki could mean that the coils upper threads are causing more resistance than the lower threads.

So, It could just be one bad coil.

Jim
I agree about the resistance. However, this is the 2nd coil, i just need to tighten it before i put it baxk together. Hopefully.

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