Anyone else have family or friends who still believe your "Still Smoking"

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I have family & friends that don't understand that vaping is different than smoking. But, I really don't care. If they don't like what I do, tough. I know that what I'm doing is better for me than smoking. I'll stop vaping if/when I want to & anything they say or do will not change that. Nobody I know is perfect & everyone I know has their own vices. I wasn't put on earth to judge them for what they do. I would appreciate them not judging me as to whether I'm still smoking or not.
 

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My husband, (an ex-smoker), refers to my vaping as 'smoking'. I asked him why does he call it that when he knows it is not really smoking.... he said, and I quote, "If it looks like smoke, it is smoke - period". When I tried to argue him out of that point of view by pointing out that the stuff that comes off of dry ice looks like smoke, too, but is not smoke, he responded that, "yes is it - it is dry ice smoke". After that, I stopped trying to change his mind for him.

Mind you, he has been supportive of my 'hobby', (he actually gave me one of his most precious possessions today to store all of my eVape items in - a tackle box that my now deceased Grandpa had give to him the first Christmas after we married), but hubby is stubborn to a fault and when his opinion is set, no matter how wrong he is - there is no changing it.

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My family are a set of these people

I quit smoking months ago and turned to vaping but they still have the opinion that im still smoking, they dont believe i have give up completely because i am vaping even though i havent had a cigarette in a long time. Anyone else get this annoying onlook from family or friends?

Apparently until i stop vaping i will never be a non smoker :blink:

Introducing my employees to vaping right now. Their default settins is as you describe (at least the non-smoking ones). Blowing "smoke" at the non-smokers is a good intro to what's different. :)
 

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Hey, do what you want. I'm a Libertarian that way.

I smoke analogs and vape ( because I'm not taking an ecig onto the jobsites I visit)

If people want to vape- go for it. If they want to smoke tobacco- go for it. It doesn't affect me one way or the other. I just take issue with the "holier than thou", ex smoker BS that a select few seem to spout on this site.

I would like to remind these select few how they felt when this was thrown in their faces while they still used analogs.

Meanwhile, they still have a stick in their mouths inhaling nicotine laced vapour. I just fail to see where the attitude is justified.

They are not increasing your chances for heart and lung disease by vaping around you. You should stop smoking for one month and stay clear from cigarette smoke. Then go around a smoker and see what you think. I don't jump on people who smoke. Several of my co-worker smoke around me in close quarters. I just crack a window and vape away. I don't down them for it but it does bother me. I can't be a hypocrite so what can I do? I've tried to get them vaping and they do vape on occasion. They just lack the will and the want to quit. Maybe someday they'll wake up? I'm glad I didn't have to wait for something to make me quit smoking. I did it on my own with alot of help from this community and vaping. I can't see why people are still smoking now. But I don't judge them for it. I believe people will all vape instead of smoke one day and analogs will be the new pipe. People know they're out there but few actually smoke them. Well with tobacco in them anyways. :)
 
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My husband, (an ex-smoker), refers to my vaping as 'smoking'. I asked him why does he call it that when he knows it is not really smoking.... he said, and I quote, "If it looks like smoke, it is smoke - period". When I tried to argue him out of that point of view by pointing out that the stuff that comes off of dry ice looks like smoke, too, but is not smoke, he responded that, "yes is it - it is dry ice smoke". After that, I stopped trying to change his mind for him.
I'd love to hear what he calls fog... maybe water smoke?
 

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when i was a smoker i felt like i needed to smoke to obtain some sort of homeostasis where i would be able to emotionally and mentally function. though i felt like i "needed" them, smoking tobacco really made me feel ....ty. i could feel my brain buzzing with all the input, and i was constantly reminding myself the weird sense of "euphoria" was due to mild suffocation.
inhaling vapor is a much different experience, and i don't feel like i "need" it like i "needed" tobacco. i'm kind of a fidgety person, so the act of vaping is pretty nice in that it gives me something simple and consistent to do. i feel like i'm able to experience nicotine in a different way, and it's much more comfortable than burning tobacco ever was.
i was told right away by one of my former coworkers that i haven't quit, because i'm using a stimulant and it resembles smoking. i told her my goal was to no longer use tobacco at all, and that i had succeeded. i felt better, so it was an achievement as far as i was concerned. i also had to remind her we were attending our staff xmas party for a cafe we worked at, we as former students were obviously well acquainted with mild stimulants.
sure nicotine is addictive, but i don't find it to be disruptive to my daily life. if ever something were to happen and i had no more vaping supplies, i really do not think i would go back to cigarettes at all. i've quit tobacco, and that's more than enough for me.
 

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Is this how you debate with those that don't share your views?

There Was NO debate and , it's NOT a "point of view" that vapoing IS NOT Smoking - simple as that. Frankly I don't care WHAT someone else thinks about it- smoke requires COMBUSTION -

Vaping does not and NO I don't care to debate what is common knowledge


Methinks YOU have a complex as that was NOT said toward you at all- yet you "jumped" as if it were -:evil:
 
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when i was a smoker i felt like i needed to smoke to obtain some sort of homeostasis where i would be able to emotionally and mentally function. though i felt like i "needed" them, smoking tobacco really made me feel ....ty. i could feel my brain buzzing with all the input, and i was constantly reminding myself the weird sense of "euphoria" was due to mild suffocation.
inhaling vapor is a much different experience, and i don't feel like i "need" it like i "needed" tobacco. i'm kind of a fidgety person, so the act of vaping is pretty nice in that it gives me something simple and consistent to do. i feel like i'm able to experience nicotine in a different way, and it's much more comfortable than burning tobacco ever was.
i was told right away by one of my former coworkers that i haven't quit, because i'm using a stimulant and it resembles smoking. i told her my goal was to no longer use tobacco at all, and that i had succeeded. i felt better, so it was an achievement as far as i was concerned. i also had to remind her we were attending our staff xmas party for a cafe we worked at, we as former students were obviously well acquainted with mild stimulants.
sure nicotine is addictive, but i don't find it to be disruptive to my daily life. if ever something were to happen and i had no more vaping supplies, i really do not think i would go back to cigarettes at all. i've quit tobacco, and that's more than enough for me.

This post is 110% exactly my feelings on smoking/vaping, etc!
 

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Hey, do what you want. I'm a Libertarian that way.

I smoke analogs and vape ( because I'm not taking an ecig onto the jobsites I visit)

If people want to vape- go for it. If they want to smoke tobacco- go for it. It doesn't affect me one way or the other. I just take issue with the "holier than thou", ex smoker BS that a select few seem to spout on this site.

I would like to remind these select few how they felt when this was thrown in their faces while they still used analogs.

Meanwhile, they still have a stick in their mouths inhaling nicotine laced vapour. I just fail to see where the attitude is justified.

You start this post out by seeming to suggest you don't care what people want to do, but seem so vehement about them calling vaping still smoking. It's not. There is no disgusting smell, no yellow gunk on your walls, no yellowing teeth, no 4000 chemicals to give you cancer, no nasty non biodegradable butts to be tossed, no pile of nasty ashes, or ashtrays. You darn right I do not call vaping smoking, its like comparing an apple to a greasy, fatty pork chop. Both of them go in your mouth, both of them have calories, they are both food, but one is a heck of a lot better for you and healthy people choose the apple. Just like former smokers who want to live healthier vape vs smoking.

And a HUGE difference, there is no SMOKE. Hence, calling it smoking is not accurate.
 
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...Since I quit smoking, I have gotten 7 people to make the switch to pv's. A few still smoke but they are slowly making the switch...

...and THAT is a marvelous transition to witness.

[aside]
Personally, I have my greasy, fatty, pork chops with apple wedges and glaze. That evens-out the Karma of the whole meal. Yum!
 
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Actually, this thing has been bugging me. None of us has quit.

We moved from burning leaves with nicotine to burning liquid with nicotine.


IMO, quitting is putting down the cigarette and bit replacing it with another nicotine delivery system.

All of us are a finger snap from analogs. You just don't want to admit it. Because if we have all truly quit, we can put down the PV permanently.

How many here can do that?

I don't know where you and the ANTZ get your info from but you are dead wrong as DC pointed out we do not "burn nicotine."
Neither am I or anyone else I know just a "finger snap from analogs".
Here is what I can admit to; that nicotine is not as addicting as you seem to believe it is for me and for many other folks.
I sometimes use zero nicotine on occasion simply because I like the flavor of that particular juice which I got in 0.
Do I go into withdrawals? Absolutely not!
We really need to stop classifying and talking about nicotine as if it's some type of "illicit drug" which has the same effect as any illicit substance that can change peoples behavior for the worse.
Honestly!
Frankly I don't much care what anyone thinks about my vaping.
It is a personal choice that I undertook to reduce the harm from inhaling cigarettes and I was able to accidentally quit smoking! How can that possibly be a "bad choice"?
Whether or not I choose to put it down is no one's business but my own and if you haven't asked me how I feel about these questions your blanket statement just doesn't cover me.
Why do you have the need to try and demean the great strides everyone who is vaping has made?:glare:
C.B.
 
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I don't know where you and the ANTZ get your info from but you are dead wrong as DC pointed out we do not
"burn nicotine." Neither am I or anyone else I know just a "finger snap from analogs".
Here is what I can admit to that nicotine is not as addicting as you seem to believe it is for me and for many other folks.
I sometimes use zero nicotine on occasion simply because I like the flavor of that particular juice which I got in 0.
Do I go into withdrawals? Absolutely not!
We really need to stop classifying and talking about nicotine as if it's some type of "illicit drug" which has the same effect as any illicit substance that can change peoples behavior for the worse.
Honestly!
Frankly I don't much care what anyone thinks about my vaping.
It is a personal choice that I undertook to reduce the harm from inhaling cigarettes and I was able to accidentally quit smoking! How can that possibly be a "bad choice"?
Whether or not I choose to put it down is no one's business but my own and if you haven't asked me how I feel about these questions your blanket statement just doesn't cover me.
Why do you have the need to try and demean the great strides everyone who is vaping has made?:glare:
C.B.

Agreed.

And I can unequivocally say vaping for me, is NOT at all as addictive as cigarettes. I prove that to myself time and time again. Went on a trip for four days, left it at home. Not once did I think about it. NOt once did I crave it. If I had still been smoking, I'd have gone stark raving mad. I only vape part time, and rarely take it with me when I go out. Even if I go out and have a few beers I don't think about it, which is NOT something i could have done while smoking.

I wonder if he is demeaning the strides being made perhaps because he himself has not given up analogs. I don't know why else he would be so adamant to call vaping, smoking.

And yes, at the end of the day, it's no one business if I or you or anyone does not equate vaping to smoking. I know personally it is not the same. Last I checked, NO SMOKE was rolling out of my pv, therefore i am not smoking. The nicotine in an e-cig is probably about as harmless as a cup of coffee. Can't say that about analogs!
 

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The only real problems I get are from the regulars at the bar I go to once in a while. Some say I'm smoking as to others they swear I'm inhaling lithium fumes from an unharmed battery.

My parents will ask when I'll quit vaping and say never with a smile on my face. My sis will never try vaping and falls into the category of vaping is still smoking as well. I did change my g/f to vaping and she has told me time and again I saved her life from the cancer-causing effects that a cigarette has in its innards and puts a huge smile on my face :).

I have been smoke free since January 18th 2010 and love every second of it! :2cool:
 

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Agreed.

And I can unequivocally say vaping for me, is NOT at all as addictive as cigarettes. I prove that to myself time and time again. Went on a trip for four days, left it at home. Not once did I think about it. NOt once did I crave it. If I had still been smoking, I'd have gone stark raving mad. I only vape part time, and rarely take it with me when I go out. Even if I go out and have a few beers I don't think about it, which is NOT something i could have done while smoking.

I wonder if he is demeaning the strides being made perhaps because he himself has not given up analogs. I don't know why else he would be so adamant to call vaping, smoking.

And yes, at the end of the day, it's no one business if I or you or anyone does not equate vaping to smoking. I know personally it is not the same. Last I checked, NO SMOKE was rolling out of my pv, therefore i am not smoking. The nicotine in an e-cig is probably about as harmless as a cup of coffee. Can't say that about analogs!

Clearly that IS the Only reason to insist and in fact attack others on here.

It is kinda funny that one would rant about "holier than thou" attitudes while at the same time having that exact attitude and posting it no less!!!

The bottom line is clear, vapor is not smoke, fog is not smoke, water is not smoke, burgers are not smoke, those who insist on "pretending" otherwise do so despite they know the truth and refuse to admit it for some silly reason(s).

Folks who refuse to accept truth and reality do not bother me , they have much bigger issues IMO than vaping will Ever be!
 

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There Was NO debate and , it's NOT a "point of view" that vapoing IS NOT Smoking - simple as that. Frankly I don't care WHAT someone else thinks about it- smoke requires COMBUSTION
Vaping does not and NO I don't care to debate what is common knowledge
Methinks YOU have a complex as that was NOT said toward you at all- yet you "jumped" as if it were -:evil:

Wow. You really do resort to attacking those that don't agree with you.

Not a problem. You're on "ignore" now
 
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