I get it all the time. I squint my eyes. Look at them with a weird look and say, "Are you still breathing?! Most times a brief explanation makes them understand. If it doesn't... too effin' bad! vape on!
Does anyone else experience this?
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I get it all the time. I squint my eyes. Look at them with a weird look and say, "Are you still breathing?! Most times a brief explanation makes them understand. If it doesn't... too effin' bad! vape on!
Not sure I agree. Addiction is ethically neutral. Whether they are aware of it or not everyone alive is addicted to endorfins and everyone alive does things that produce them. Even the staunchest self-disciplined person is getting an endorfin kick from being that way.
I don't see a moral component to addiction. Whether and how you satisfy your addictions does have a moral component.
Go ask the average citizen in Mexico about the moral component of illegal addiction and what it does... Nic is legal... Johnson Creek isn't putting heads on a roadside to make nic juice we are addicted to...
I get the stop vaping from Mom... I try to explain that the 3.5+ POD I was up to and being in the shower wondering if your lung is going to hold to the next day and having lungs like I was 20years younger 2 weeks later>>>>>>>>>>>>>>her ignorance.
What I like is the studies that nicotine increases brain activity and has some benefits is forgotten cause it's still linked to "evil" smoking.
I get the stop vaping from Mom... I try to explain that the 3.5+ POD I was up to and being in the shower wondering if your lung is going to hold to the next day and having lungs like I was 20years younger 2 weeks later>>>>>>>>>>>>>>her ignorance.
What I like is the studies that nicotine increases brain activity and has some benefits is forgotten cause it's still linked to "evil" smoking.
Endrophin is short for "endogenous morphine", meaning that it referes to opiates that your brain produces and uses as a neurotransmitter. And that's by definition not an addiction. Period. End of story. It's just how the brain works.
All drugs resemble endogenous compounds to some degree…if they didn't, they wouldn't have an effect. It's just as true for the hard drugs that kill people and have no benefit to anyone as it is to the ones that have medical uses or that society deems appropriate for recreational use (Nicotine, Caffeine, Alcohol, etc.).
I see where you're coming from, but be careful with that argument; if you happen to make it to someone the least bit educated on drugs, psychology, or neuroscience, they'll know you don't know what you're talking about.
That's because people blindly parrot what the FDA, DEA, and DARE people say about drugs: they're all bad, period. Unless, of course, your 8 year old is bored in class and a GP decides he needs to take amphetamine without having read the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) or knowing anything about discriminating boredom from ADD……or any of the other handful of drugs that treat ADD. And it's okay if you're a suburban house wife and get bored with your life and lies about migraines to get vallium.
Basically, unless it comes from big pharm, people think all drugs are bad and have no idea what they're putting into their bodies.
When people see me vaping I usually get "are u trying to quit smoking?" I say I did quit smoking and I get a puzzled look.
As for the MORALS OF ADDICTION, addiction is a brain disorder, or condition. I've been to rehab, my morals had nothing to do with it!
As for the MORALS OF ADDICTION, addiction is a brain disorder, or condition. I've been to rehab, my morals had nothing to do with it!
Congratulations on quitting or never starting smoking. I tried to quit smoking and failed. I tried switching to vaping and succeeded.
Me too. I couldn't quit smoking but vaping took it's place. I get the same reactions listed here. Mostly, "When are you going to quit that"? Why do they care?
I have been an inspiration to some of my smoker friends. They say if even I can do it, then they can too - I was a chain smoking fool for almost 30 years. I know of two of my smoker friends who are now vapers. Another went back to smoking. Of the two friends who are now vaping, they've inspired some of their friends to start vaping instead of smoking. It's a wonderful chain of events and we don't even see some the good we've done.
Vaping is a lot more trouble than smoking, but to me, it's worth all the extra trouble. Well worth it.
Will I ever quit vaping? Not planning on it today, but I'm sure I'll get tired of it someday - but not today. I'm over two years without a cigarette and to me.....priceless! What anyone else thinks? I could care less. For once, this is all about me.
Ed.
Depends on how you define addiction doesn't it? Sex is just how reproduction works but, there are medical practitioners that say you can get addicted to it. You can become addicted to just about anything you find pleasurable. Endorphins qualify.
Nope, not even from doctors. If I did I'd point out that my nicotine is cut in half from where I started.
I would point out that after 4 months I had a rough day and my mind kept looking for a cigarette instead of an e-cig so I've probably got a very long way to go to reset my mind from wanting a cigarette.
I went back to cigarettes after 2 years without one and not caring to ever have one. I won't consider giving up vaping until the desires I get are to vape and not smoke.
I smoked for 35 years so that may take until I'm 85.
I'm not saying I won't, I plan on going to 0mg and figure I'll probably quit after that but I'm not pushing myself. I just got down to 5.5mg a couple weeks ago and I am not pushing for 0mg until I'm ready.
I would point out that after 4 months I had a rough day and my mind kept looking for a cigarette instead of an e-cig so I've probably got a very long way to go to reset my mind from wanting a cigarette.
I went back to cigarettes after 2 years without one and not caring to ever have one. I won't consider giving up vaping until the desires I get are to vape and not smoke.
I smoked for 35 years so that may take until I'm 85.
I'm not saying I won't, I plan on going to 0mg and figure I'll probably quit after that but I'm not pushing myself. I just got down to 5.5mg a couple weeks ago and I am not pushing for 0mg until I'm ready.
I get it all the time and try to pick a vice of theirs (if I know them) such as...."You love Pepsi right? So why don't you stop drinking Pepsi?" They usually come back with the same S.A. response..."That's different, Pepsi doesn't have nicotine in it" to which my response is "Your right it's caffine"........TOUCHE!!
Yep...that is basically my response too.
Q: When are you going to quit nicotine?
A: When you quit caffine.
(and coming from this state, that's saying something.) 
Honestly, it really used to bother me when I got "that" response from people who claimed they supported me and my little causes...especially coming from a former smoker who quit cold turkey well over a decade ago. I'm happy for her, really I am. But I use what works for me. And after (just a few weeks shy of) 2 years of being smoke free, I don't really care what anyone else thinks about it and whether there is legitimate justification for me to do it or not. Someday, I'll let this habit go too, but I'm in no hurry. I'm just happy to be a non smoker.
Really, in the end....if you're succeeding...who cares what anyone says? They're not the ones fighting your battle. They have their own battles to deal with. Besides...I figure a lot of those who came at me with the same negative rhetoric were just jealous. Just keep vaping.
My responses vary greatly but are always similar in nature with the intent of the comment. If I don't care for the person, or if I detect that "air of superiority" in their voice, they will receive a scathing response. If I know the people well and am convinced they are asking out of genuine concern, I toss the ball back in their court by asking, "Tell me, why exactly are you asking me that?" Most take the path of least resistance and drop it. Those that do pursue it have much less knowledge, are immediately at a disadvantage and realize a bit later they would be better off having dropped the subject from the start.
Ultimately, I am very proud of my accomplishment. It's the underlying tones of disrespect towards that accomplishment that gets the blood going. On the other hand, we are a select group of people that have embraced vaping more than most and it stands to reason that some of us might be a bit more sensitive to "comments". I know I am.
Ultimately, I am very proud of my accomplishment. It's the underlying tones of disrespect towards that accomplishment that gets the blood going. On the other hand, we are a select group of people that have embraced vaping more than most and it stands to reason that some of us might be a bit more sensitive to "comments". I know I am.
That's it in a nutshell!! This is where serenity lies. My life became far less stressful when I got to this point.
You can explain, or try to educate, but as long as they're called electronic cigarettes, and as long as folks don't understand the difference, there will be those who think there is no difference. Bottom line, I'm healthier, and guess what......I'm not blowing 2nd hand smoke in your face anymore either, so get over it! lol
Sex is a behavior. You can become addicted to behaviors. You can't get addicted to the physiological process of reproduction.
Endorphins don't qualify. Behaviors that lead to endorphin release are what you're addicted to. What you're saying is roughly equivalent to saying that high heart rates are addictive and the running that causes it is inconsequential.
A little bit of knowledge is a very dangerous andmore importantlyannoying thing. A friend's girlfriend is probably the worst. She keeps trying to make the same argument every time she sees me and thinks it's going to have a different outcome.
It must be nice to be able to constantly look like an idiot in front of your friends and not care.
But, she was already on my ignore list, so at this point I just do it out of entertainment. It's more fun when she tries to talk about religion.
And what exactly is it that all addictive behaviors that lead to endorphin release have in common? Could it possibly be the endorphin release? If that's the case, I would submit that it's not the behavior that is addictive at all.
Your contention is that all addictive behaviors that lead to endorphin release have that endorphin release in common, yes. Redundant statements are logically cogent.
But the endorphin response is still a physiological mechanism, not a behavior. It's a reason why some behaviors tend to be addictive; a mechanism for how addiction works (despite the fact that dopamine is more closely related most the time). There's a fundamental difference there that you're not getting.
There's a lot of confusion going on here perpetuated by lay interpretations of scientific information; mass media outlets and "pop psychology" BS just plain get things wrong most of the time.
But the endorphin response is still a physiological mechanism, not a behavior. It's a reason why some behaviors tend to be addictive; a mechanism for how addiction works (despite the fact that dopamine is more closely related most the time). There's a fundamental difference there that you're not getting.
There's a lot of confusion going on here perpetuated by lay interpretations of scientific information; mass media outlets and "pop psychology" BS just plain get things wrong most of the time.
Next time just ask her if she has something in her pockets or if her hips just got bigger.
She basically has no hips. She'd think it was an improvement……but I see where you're going with that. The thing is that I don't actually want to be mean to her………I just want her to keep looking like an idiot.
Very simply remind anyone who ask when you're giving up nicotine how pleasant it was to be around you the last 10 times you tried quitting smoking, the nic fits, the mood swings, the need to help you bury the dead bodies....
Vaping to get your nicotine is surly the way to go....
Vaping to get your nicotine is surly the way to go....
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