Are there actually clones on the same level as authentic?

[hambone0424]

Like others have said its hit and miss love my derringer clone fasttech hate my freakshow mini fasttech i love my cherry bomber ivogo fasttech little boy nice fasttech av buster local vape shop its a clone tr0ll from a different shop also love it center block spins every once in a while but u get what u pay for all my clones were less than 20 bucks and excluding buster an cherry bomber and they all work pretty well even the fsm just dont like using it yet i love it only authentic i got is subtank mini and ipv mini 2

 

[Oberon75]

Thanks for the replies. I've been quite busy at work and haven't had time to take part in the discussion I created. I'll definitely do some more research on some which I had done already before buying those.

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[beckdg]

Welcome, O

Tapatyped

 

[roxynoodle]

Also I wanted to say my rda is an infinite magma. Works flawlessly. When I bought a tobeco magma the air holes weren't even drilled all the way through so don't use that company.

It may not have been a real Tobecco. Another cloner started copying their boxes and using their name, lol! It nearly ruined their reputation for producing good clones. Pretty ironic they even counterfeit each other.

 

[Thrasher]

Nothing is safe in china, not even off brands lol

Budget home depot brand

Harbor freight clone

 

[beckdg]

It may not have been a real Tobecco. Another cloner started copying their boxes and using their name, lol! It nearly ruined their reputation for producing good clones. Pretty ironic they even counterfeit each other.

ROFL Mao

I.did not know. Thanks.

Tapatyped

 

[Oberon75]

It may not have been a real Tobecco. Another cloner started copying their boxes and using their name, lol! It nearly ruined their reputation for producing good clones. Pretty ironic they even counterfeit each other.

Well they all did some from the same shop which is a very large and credible local chain. Considering everything they sell there is legit including only American made juice, I think it's unlikely they are selling a clone of a clone although anything is possible. This is also the same shop I bought my authentic Tugboat.

Out of them all, the Plume Veil was the worst. The Mutation X wasn't too bad although you could tell it was the same kind of material and has the same cheap screws that don't stay secure.

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[beckdg]

Why a clone mutation? They're under $30.

If the screws are bad, get a pack of 18-8 or 304 SS from mcmaster. That's a common issue with clones AND authentics. I bought $100+ authentics with garbage for screws installed.

I replace my screws before I even build a new atty anymore.

Tapatyped

 

[Oberon75]

Why a clone mutation? They're under $30.

If the screws are bad, get a pack of 18-8 or 304 SS from mcmaster. That's a common issue with clones AND authentics. I bought $100+ authentics with garbage for screws installed.

I replace my screws before I even build a new atty anymore.

Tapatyped

When I bought it, I was very new to building and never researched them. I just went in the store and asked the manager for a recommendation. He ended up selling me the clone for $14. Before that, I was still using tanks.

Perhaps I will buy some screws and see if that helps. I haven't had a screw issue yet with authentics but then again, I've only bought two so far.

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[roxynoodle]

Yes, I suspect a lot of the screws are bought in bult from China, even for high end authentics. I often replace them.

 

[Thrasher]

Yes, I suspect a lot of the screws are bought in bult from China, even for high end authentics. I often replace them.

The screws- lol a lot of the high end rebuildables themselves are made in china.

 

[caramel]

If I replace a part ( screw, gasket etc) with a different brand one, does my authentic mod stop being authentic?

 

[beckdg]

If I replace a part ( screw, gasket etc) with a different brand one, does my authentic mod stop being authentic?

Yes

All mine are mcmaster Carr clones.

Tapatyped

 

[beckdg]

When I bought it, I was very new to building and never researched them. I just went in the store and asked the manager for a recommendation. He ended up selling me the clone for $14. Before that, I was still using tanks.

Perhaps I will buy some screws and see if that helps. I haven't had a screw issue yet with authentics but then again, I've only bought two so far.

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Roger that.

Yeah, definitely get an assortment of atty screws.

Here's some of my assortment...

Tapatyped

 

[roxynoodle]

The screws- lol a lot of the high end rebuildables themselves are made in china.

Yep, I have some of those.

 

[ppeeble]

I have a perfect Kayfun clone from FT. Unfortunately i made it out of the other 5 i bought which were rubbish.
The cost to me was still less than an original and i have loads of bits of metal to play with....
That's my reality !

 

[DaveSignal]

Well FT sells everything, good and bad. An $8 mod from FastTech is not going to be perfect, wether it is authentic or clone. It is going to use parts that warrant the $8 price. But a $50 clone made out of copper (or other quality metal) with good machnining is about reasonable. You can expect that the $50 went in to using some lasting parts. And still save a ton of money when the authentic is $250+. At this pricepoint, the $50 clone could even have more precise machining, better threading, lower voltage drop.

But if any vendor starts selling mods and atties with regular prices of $1 each, or even $0.50 each... this is the kind of purchase to make if you have the need for low quality spare parts.

I don't really want to say the "you get what you pay for", because for that $250 authentic device, you really don't.
But there is a critical threshold where a mod or atty can't be manufactured any cheaper without sacrificing materials used or time spent. The $5 mods and atomizers on FastTech are below that threshold... they can probably be expected to last as long or longer than a pack of cigarettes though. And a pack of cigarettes would cost more than $5 for most people.

 

[Mikedin]

Wasn't there are slight issue with a famous modder making his atties on a same factory FT bought it's clones from?
Can't remember which atty it was, though.
There are quite a few vendors sellin stuff which they get made in China for them like eXpromizer.


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The Aqua v2 I believe

I wish I would have gotten it 2 months ago but I just bought my first setup a authentic ragnaroc mod and the Aqua v2 by tobeco and a orchid v3 by tobeco

All runs flawlessly thread perfectly hits perfectly

Although don't get me wrong I don't have authentic rtas or rdas to compare to I can't complain for the proformance I get from these

 

[juggler86]

I had a Derringer by wotofo that was was so nice, I had to convince the employees at the vape shop that it was a clone. Unfortunatly i sold it and every 1 I have bought since hasnt been the same, even the other wotofos ive bought.

 

[Rizzyking]

Unlike authentics there are many levels of clones only a few company's do a good job so research is vital in getting the best which is rarely if ever the cheapest. My vapocalypse preparation hardware wise was getting a mech I like box mods so when a friend of mine let me borrow his authentic Dimitri I was sold, I started looking online prepared to pay for an authentic when he told me that of the three Dimitri's he had only one was authentic he put all three on a table and asked me to spot the clones. I failed I picked the authentic two times out of three and I was just guessing as they were identical he then gave me the link to the ivogo clone on fasttech which I bought and it is every bit as good as the authentic but massively cheaper.

The Dimitri is the only clone I own but showed me that autheñtic isn't the be all of vaping and you CAN get as good for a lot less money.