Ares, new MTL RTA designed by Phil Busardo and Dimitirs Agrafiotis

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Stainless is my thing. Note the Berserker DT. The flair at the bottom on th DT looks off, but I like the performances and feel.
 

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Wouldn't sliding the top cap closed over the fill hole create less air pressure going into the tank than pushing a top cap down onto the tank, thus pushing liquid into the coil chamber and causing flooding ?? Maybe that is what they were trying fix with the sliding top cap, less of a chance of flooding.
True that, 52...definitely doesn't force pressure into the tank when sliding. But I think the main reason they used the slider was because in a few of his reviews, he mentioned that it bothered him to have to find a place to put the lid. And he mentioned that in his "introduction" video as well (may have been in the comments- can't remember, but I know it was there).

Two birds, one stone, and all of that. But after reading all the seepage issues, I'm still thinking the engineering on the seal needs some tweaking to increase the pressure between the lid and teflon, in a way that won't create excessive wear. Just my $0.02.

I wonder if the other tanks with sliders have the same issue- I've seen some I can't remember, but Wismec's Elabo uses it, and a few others.
 

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True that, 52...definitely doesn't force pressure into the tank when sliding. But I think the main reason they used the slider was because in a few of his reviews, he mentioned that it bothered him to have to find a place to put the lid. And he mentioned that in his "introduction" video as well (may have been in the comments- can't remember, but I know it was there).

Two birds, one stone, and all of that. But after reading all the seepage issues, I'm still thinking the engineering on the seal needs some tweaking to increase the pressure between the lid and teflon, in a way that won't create excessive wear. Just my $0.02.

I wonder if the other tanks with sliders have the same issue- I've seen some I can't remember, but Wismec's Elabo uses it, and a few others.
If mine leaks from the lid, I would try putting something under the seal to raise it slightly. It won't require too much I'm sure to make it a tighter fit.
 

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Have the berserker and the siren v2 and i dont think there will be a better tank and because of that i pass.
I dont understand people who owns that 2 rta's and loved to buy this one ?
Why is that ? It it becaus you buy always the new mtl tanks, or is it you think maby it would be a better than the other two, or is it for a try and backup..why ? Really dont understand. In my opinion the berserker and the siren v2 are the top tanks and dont need something else where im sure you knows that the ares will not going do it better. Is het because many people buy so then im also going to buy it ? Really dont understand..some one an tell me why u want this rta if you already have the best 2 tanks and you know and see in the pecs that the ares will not change that.

Ok i understand when people say buy it for try and gonna use it as a backup, it have simply a different look and i like difference in my collection. But why else would people buy this ? Its a serios question what im not understand.

Thanks ( and sorry for the bad english )
 
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If you have two great tanks for you, that's fantastic. For some, the Siren V2's flavor is not pleasing, and yes, there is often curiosity about new equipment coming out and this one was fairly hyped, although it sounds like the first generation may have issues (which, it is possible may be fixed at a later release date).

But, I'd imagine you found your "two" tanks based on reviews and recommendations of others, most likely. I chose to wait and not purchase this tank and I am glad I did wait, but if no one were purchasing any new equipment to try, there would not be the level of innovation and change seen in e-cigarettes, period. I think especially those who started with the very newest equipment really drove the innovations that we see today, so I find it hard to find fault with people purchasing new equipment while still having equipment they like. It also took time and experimentation for me to find the things I liked, and it certainly has slowwwed my purchasing, but I don't think (even though I have many things I enjoy) that I will never purchase a new mod or tank.

I just find that my purchases have slowed, and I am more judicious in listening to feedback on equipment, but I wouldn't have two RTAs I loved (coincidentally, the berserker and Siren V2) if other people with more experience had not purchased it as well, and could give me pointers on how best to coil and wick my experience FOR the best experience that I have today.

Anna
 

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I dont understand people who owns that 2 rta's and loved to buy this one ?
Besides simple curiosity and joy of trying new toys (it´s also quite a nice hobby, isn´t it?) it´s mostly the good old HWV (hardware virus) that keeps you ordering nice or even unneccessary stuff from China or elsewhere ... gotta have it! Simple as that :w00t:
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Thanks for you repply Anna.
I understand your point, but this is something else. Before the Berserker and the siren v2 we all almost used the kayfun line. The most used is maby the kayfun mini v3 and the kayfun v5. Before that we had the goblin mini v3, the doggystyle, siren v1 and the rest of it.
But the berserker have makes the biggest inprovement same with the siren v2.
The build of this 2 rtas are really very easy, refill really easy its a easy with a very good look and the most important thing they are a perfect MTL tank with greatfull airflow like a real cig.

Now when the ares comes you could see in the o
Specs en looks that they have no make any improvement. Thats my point..i see from here without buy it that it will not be better than the other 2, thats impossible. Its almost the same build as the siren v2 there is not a big improvement.
Look, if a new tank comes with something else a difference system or something a really change maker ..than i can understa d. But now with the berserker and the siren v2, you can see from a while that the ares will not make any change of it.
 

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Have the berserker and the siren v2 and i dont think there will be a better tank and because of that i pass.
I dont understand people who owns that 2 rta's and loved to buy this one ?
Why is that ? It it becaus you buy always the new mtl tanks, or is it you think maby it would be a better than the other two, or is it for a try and backup..why ? Really dont understand. In my opinion the berserker and the siren v2 are the top tanks and dont need something else where im sure you knows that the ares will not going do it better. Is het because many people buy so then im also going to buy it ? Really dont understand..some one an tell me why u want this rta if you already have the best 2 tanks and you know and see in the pecs that the ares will not change that.

Ok i understand when people say buy it for try and gonna use it as a backup, it have simply a different look and i like difference in my collection. But why else would people buy this ? Its a serios question what im not understand.

Thanks ( and sorry for the bad english )
Of the Ares, Siren or Cthulhu Hastur I find that the Ares is the best in my opinion and I have one ordered and should be getting it by Saturday... I hope
 
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Besides simple curiosity and joy of trying new toys (it´s also quite a nice hobby, isn´t it?) it´s mostly the good old HWV (hardware virus) that keeps you ordering nice or even unneccessary stuff from China or elsewhere ... gotta have it! Simple as that :w00t:
K.

Thats it, this was the answer where im looking for. And im sure most of the people buy it with that reason. Its the fking virus :) there is no other answer in my opinion.

Thank you.:thumbs:
 

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Now when the ares comes you could see in the o
Specs en looks that they have no make any improvement. Thats my point..i see from here without buy it that it will not be better than the other 2, thats impossible. Its almost the same build as the siren v2 there is not a big improvement.
I see what you are saying, Damper. Ares looks like a Siren 2 with a berserker chimney. But I've recently reconfirmed for myself how small design specs can make a really big difference in the quality of the vape. I love my KM3, and was very excited about the Prime. From the look of it, it should give a similar vape, but offer external afc, wire trapping, and more airflow choices overall. But I can't even use it...don't like it at all.

You really just can't tell how a tank will vape by looking at it. So even though I'll probably wait for Ares v2, it is easy to understand why so many are trying it. Especially at that price point.
 

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Innokin just announced a recall on the Ares because of many complaints. Go to innokin/Ares for details Here is the details
Thanks to the feedback (including some of our members here) if you feel your Ares has been affected please let Innokin know. Respect for the way they handled this
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CUSTOMERS AND FRIENDS OF INNOKIN:

Although it pains us to write this, we believe that honesty, transparency, and safety is the best policy.

It has come to our attention that some of the tolerances were off during Ares production and some issues were not caught in QC and a small number of units have been affected.

If you feel your Ares is affected, please contact us at info@innokin.com.

We can assure you that we are taking all issues seriously, listening to all feedback, and are working hard to insure new Ares go out trouble free and affected Ares replacements are handled in a professional and timely manner.

We feel terrible that Phil and Dimitri's first project with us has issues, but we're doing everything in our power to make things right.

We truly apologize for any inconvenience this may bring you and hope our work to resolve these issues keeps your confidence in Innokin and all future Platform projects!

If you are enjoying the Ares, we are delighted and please continue to do so!

Thank you for your understanding and Happy Holidays.

-Innokin Management
 
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Kudos to them for addressing the issues. But I've got to say this is the most vague recall I can recall. But then I don't recall a recall on vape gear before.:)
They don't say which tolerances, or what they cause (seepage from the top, floating ohm, what issues are included in the recall?). But I guess that just means they want everyone happy, and they'll deal with potentially any issue a user might have...that's pretty good! And what a shame for it to happen on Phil & Dimitris' first foray into equipment.
 

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What made me choose the Ares was the Slide open top for filling, the walls that keep the wick away from the air hole, the bell chamber and the tools it comes with.

That made you to choose but that makes it not the best.
And you can see tbe ares has a issue what never can make it 'best'.

Im just saying have nothing against the ares and think its a great mtl tank and hope you will enjoy it.
 
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A recall, that is interesting. But, kudos to the team for deciding to take another look at it, and that is some good customer service given how people are feeling about the seepage.... Recalls are a pain, yet again I am glad I waited on this tank, I just kinda had a feeling.

But I hope those of you who are not loving this tank get a chance to, as it does have some things going for it, for sure.

Anna
 

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Good review
That made you to choose but that makes it not the best.
And you can see tbe ares has a issue what never can make it 'best'.

Im just saying have nothing against the ares and think its a great mtl tank and hope you will enjoy it.
I find that it DOES make it MY best choice... What issue are you talking about???
 
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A recall, that is interesting. But, kudos to the team for deciding to take another look at it, and that is some good customer service given how people are feeling about the seepage.... Recalls are a pain, yet again I am glad I waited on this tank, I just kinda had a feeling.

But I hope those of you who are not loving this tank get a chance to, as it does have some things going for it, for sure.

Anna
How many people are having an issue with this tank??? I still can't wait to get mine.
 

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IDK an exact number, but that seemed to be the main complaint on the tank, leaking/seepage. Perhaps it was earlier in the thread, but it's certainly there.... I held off on ordering one to see what folks thought, and that was the MAIN complaint although there were others.

I do think maybe expectations of some were very high on this tank, but I kind of kept in mind that there is a BIG difference between being a reviewer and a designer.

I don't have the tank, so those were my impressions based on reading the rather lengthy thread from the beginning.

Anna
 
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