Athiest Converts After Seeing a Demon on His Shoulder!

[blondeambition3]

If you don't worship one then you worship the other by default? What about people who don't worship either?

If I (or anyone) can follow satan without even knowing it just by default does that make satan more powerful than god? Shouldn't the most powerful be the default position and the weaker get the rest? Why does god let people think they're doing good when they're really following satan? If satan is that powerful to get the majority like that, what does it really say about gods power? I thought god was in control but now you make me wonder.

Everyone must pick either Jesus or satan or satan wins? So I can ask anyone if the choose Jesus and if they don't say yes then they're satan worshipers by default? That's some pretty serious stuff you're talking about!

Is that like a politician who comes up and says are you for me or against me? You must be one or the other..... but the voter has no knowledge of or interest in the election.... or the drug gangs in Mexico who ask villagers... "are you for us or against us"... They must be one or the other.. and if they give the wrong answer they die.... is it like that?

God loves you (and everyone else) so much that He sent His only Son Jesus to die on the cross for YOUR Sins (and their Sins) so that you can reside in Heaven eternally with Him after your Life ends on this Earthly plane. IF you do not receive (by Faith) this precious redemptive Gift He's offering, then you will perish and Satan will have won... your Soul shall be Satan's eternally. It's just that simple... nothing else matters. Don't be concerned that your Friends may or may not be actively worshiping Satanists or not.... be worried that everyone (including yourself) don't know Jesus, as He is the only one who can save you.

 

[LisaLisa]

i have a study bible here

john 3:18
anyone who believes in him(jesus)is not condemned,but anyone who does not beleive is already condemned,becuase he has not believed in the one son of god.

Kjv
ephesians 2
1and you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

2wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

3among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.


Matthew 12:26-32 (american standard version)
29 or how can one enter into the house of the strong man, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? And then he will spoil his house.

30 he that is not with me is against me, and he that gathereth not with me scattereth.

31 therefore i say unto you, every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the spirit shall not be forgiven.

32 and whosoever shall speak a word against the son of man, it shall be forgiven him; but whosoever shall speak against the holy spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in that which is to come.


If u deny there is a god satan already has his foot in the door.

amen!!!!!!!!!

 

[blondeambition3]

Originally Posted by convict3
i have a study bible here

john 3:18
anyone who believes in him(jesus)is not condemned,but anyone who does not beleive is already condemned,becuase he has not believed in the one son of god.

Kjv
ephesians 2
1and you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

2wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

3among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.


Matthew 12:26-32 (american standard version)
29 or how can one enter into the house of the strong man, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? And then he will spoil his house.

30 he that is not with me is against me, and he that gathereth not with me scattereth.

31 therefore i say unto you, every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the spirit shall not be forgiven.

32 and whosoever shall speak a word against the son of man, it shall be forgiven him; but whosoever shall speak against the holy spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in that which is to come.


If u deny there is a god satan already has his foot in the door.

Oh yes! Amen & Amen Hallelujah!

 

[convict3]

to me hell is a eterniny absent of gods light and with no one to listen to my prayers and one one to save me from my own wickedness.

i beleive hell is full of good people with good intentions that where not covered by the veil of jesus and cast aside by the father for their sin.

. only though excepting jesus into our hearts to guide and lead us can we get to the promise land.

 

[capecodjim]

God loves you (and everyone else) so much that He sent His only Son Jesus to die on the cross for YOUR Sins (and their Sins) so that you can reside in Heaven eternally with Him after your Life ends on this Earthly plane. IF you do not receive (by Faith) this precious redemptive Gift He's offering, then you will perish and Satan will have won... your Soul shall be Satan's eternally. It's just that simple... nothing else matters. Don't be concerned that your Friends may or may not be actively worshiping Satanists or not.... be worried that everyone (including yourself) don't know Jesus, as He is the only one who can save you.

What sins? Have I sinned just be existing? Why would he send his son to die. I wouldn't want him as my father. I'd never do that to my son. What father would? Wouldn't a father say "Take me but not my kid." That's what I'd say. He gives up his son to a cruel death and suffering but he's going to protect me? Hmmmmmm.

Please answer my other questions about identifying satan's minions and god's power vs satan's so I can have a better understanding.

 

[convict3]

Genesis 3:14-18 (New American Standard Bible)

14The LORD God said to the serpent,
"(A)Because you have done this,
Cursed are you more than all cattle,
And more than every beast of the field;
On your belly you will go,
And (B)dust you will eat
All the days of your life;
15And I will put (C)enmity Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her seed;
(D)He shall bruise you on the head,
And you shall bruise him on the heel."

16To the woman He said,
"I will greatly multiply
Your pain in childbirth,
In pain you will (E)bring forth children;
Yet your desire will be for your husband,
And (F)he will rule over you."

17Then to Adam He said, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, 'You shall not eat from it';
(G)Cursed is the ground because of you;
(H)In toil you will eat of it
All the days of your life.
18"Both thorns and thistles it shall grow for you;
And you will eat the plants of the field;

because of the original sin of disobediance we are all born into bondage and are sinners.

if i get off topic let me know.

 

[eHuman]

We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. That's why we need a saviour. We are all born in sin and destined for Hell. Jesus came to save that which was already lost, He did not come to condemn us. He came to save us.

There is no other name than Jesus by which mankind can be saved.

So yes, Anything but God through Jesus = worshipping Satan = even if you don't believe. Why? Becasue Satan's "gospel" is to kill, steal and destroy. By not accepting the free gift of salvation from eternal punishment and separation from God, you are siding and agreeing with and helping Satan's cause. I.E. Worshipping Satan. To worship is to give honor to.

 

[blondeambition3]

to me hell is a eterniny absent of gods light and with no one to listen to my prayers and one one to save me from my own wickedness.

i beleive hell is full of good people with good intentions that where not covered by the veil of jesus and cast aside by the father for their sin.

. only though excepting jesus into our hearts to guide and lead us can we get to the promise land.

Oh wow! This is such beautiful Truth and Wisdom! Thank you for blessing me with this post convict3!

 

[blondeambition3]

Genesis 3:14-18 (New American Standard Bible)

14The LORD God said to the serpent,
"(A)Because you have done this,
Cursed are you more than all cattle,
And more than every beast of the field;
On your belly you will go,
And (B)dust you will eat
All the days of your life;
15And I will put (C)enmity Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her seed;
(D)He shall bruise you on the head,
And you shall bruise him on the heel."

16To the woman He said,
"I will greatly multiply
Your pain in childbirth,
In pain you will (E)bring forth children;
Yet your desire will be for your husband,
And (F)he will rule over you."

17Then to Adam He said, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, 'You shall not eat from it';
(G)Cursed is the ground because of you;
(H)In toil you will eat of it
All the days of your life.
18"Both thorns and thistles it shall grow for you;
And you will eat the plants of the field;

because of the original sin of disobediance we are all born into bondage and are sinners.

if i get off topic let me know.

When you post the beautiful word of GOD you need never fear of being off topic in this Forum Convict3!

 

[capecodjim]

Genesis 3:14-18 (New American Standard Bible)

14The LORD God said to the serpent,
"(A)Because you have done this,
Cursed are you more than all cattle,
And more than every beast of the field;
On your belly you will go,
And (B)dust you will eat
All the days of your life;
15And I will put (C)enmity Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her seed;
(D)He shall bruise you on the head,
And you shall bruise him on the heel."

16To the woman He said,
"I will greatly multiply
Your pain in childbirth,
In pain you will (E)bring forth children;
Yet your desire will be for your husband,
And (F)he will rule over you."

17Then to Adam He said, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, 'You shall not eat from it';
(G)Cursed is the ground because of you;
(H)In toil you will eat of it
All the days of your life.
18"Both thorns and thistles it shall grow for you;
And you will eat the plants of the field;

because of the original sin of disobediance we are all born into bondage and are sinners.

if i get off topic let me know.

I'm not sure what any of that or "original sin" has to do with me. Am I being punished for what someone else did a long time ago? Huh?

It's god that makes childbirth so painful form woman because of Eve? Wow.... I had no idea. That's a mean thing to do to women. I thought god loved children and welcomed them into the world. What happened to "Be fruitful and multiply"? Multiply but I'm gonna make it hurt for the woman because Eve messed up? I'm glad guys just get the fun part of child birth!

Does this also say that a husband should rule his wife and not listen to her?

 

[blondeambition3]

What sins? Have I sinned just be existing? Why would he send his son to die. I wouldn't want him as my father. I'd never do that to my son. What father would? Wouldn't a father say "Take me but not my kid." That's what I'd say. He gives up his son to a cruel death and suffering but he's going to protect me? Hmmmmmm.

Please answer my other questions about identifying satan's minions and god's power vs satan's so I can have a better understanding.

We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. That's why we need a saviour. We are all born in sin and destined for Hell. Jesus came to save that which was already lost, He did not come to condemn us. He came to save us.

There is no other name than Jesus by which mankind can be saved.

So yes, Anything but God through Jesus = worshipping Satan = even if you don't believe. Why? Becasue Satan's "gospel" is to kill, steal and destroy. By not accepting the free gift of salvation from eternal punishment and separation from God, you are siding and agreeing with and helping Satan's cause. I.E. Worshipping Satan. To worship is to give honor to.

My reply to you is the same as my Brother eHuman's reply.... Instead of railing against the darkness, why don't YOU choose the 'light' this day? If you choose not to follow Jesus, then by all means, continue to rail.... you either believe or you do not believe. Now if you're a Child (devoid of God) seeking questions, we have provided them for you, but if you're a Child of the adversary (the Devil) seeking only to taunt and disrupt the Brethren, then you give us no choice but to rebuke you and cast you out and that's really no fun for us as we want to see you in Heaven! In answer to your question, in essence, Satan has NO POWER or Authority over God, above God or where GOD is concerned. his only power & authority is over those who refuse to believe in God and follow Jesus. period. In Christ's love I wish you peace and pray for your repentance, deliverance and salvation. In Christ's peace I pray, Amen.

 

[capecodjim]

We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. That's why we need a saviour. We are all born in sin and destined for Hell. Jesus came to save that which was already lost, He did not come to condemn us. He came to save us.

There is no other name than Jesus by which mankind can be saved.

So yes, Anything but God through Jesus = worshipping Satan = even if you don't believe. Why? Becasue Satan's "gospel" is to kill, steal and destroy. By not accepting the free gift of salvation from eternal punishment and separation from God, you are siding and agreeing with and helping Satan's cause. I.E. Worshipping Satan. To worship is to give honor to.

What about children who die in childbirth before they can be baptized or learn anything about god or Jesus. Are they doomed satan worshipers? I hope there's a loophole for them.

I'm doomed for not accepting a free gift? Talk about the fine print in the contract!

What about people who condemn killing, stealing and destruction? Any loophole or that's not enough? What about Buddhists who take oaths and devote their life to pacifism and compassion but no nothing of god? Satan worshipers too?

What about remote tribes in South America who have no idea about any religion? They are automatically satan worshipers? Did they ever have a chance? Can there be a loophole for them too?

I still don't see why satan gets the default position unless the free gift is offered and accepted. Shouldn't god get everyone that doesn't actively choose satan? This makes satan appear stronger. Help me understand.

 

[blondeambition3]

I'm not sure what any of that or "original sin" has to do with me. Am I being punished for what someone else did a long time ago? Huh?

It's god that makes childbirth so painful form woman because of Eve? Wow.... I had no idea. That's a mean thing to do to women. I thought god loved children and welcomed them into the world. What happened to "Be fruitful and multiply"? Multiply but I'm gonna make it hurt for the woman because Eve messed up? I'm glad guys just get the fun part of child birth!

Does this also say that a husband should rule his wife and not listen to her?

Sometimes only prayer & fasting can defeat this kind of spirit....

 

[eHuman]

It is difficult to jump on a verse and use it as a weapon if you don't understand the context of the whole book. The pharasee's historically twisted scripture completely around and made it mean something it didn't. Pick and choose verses if you would like but I offer to you that it is only by the Spirit of God that you will be able to make sense of the scriptures. You believe and have faith in God and He reveals the truth to you, or, you do not believe, have no faith in God and the truth and fullness of scripture remain clouded and not understandable.

 

[blondeambition3]

It is difficult to jump on a verse and use it as a weapon if you don't understand the context of the whole book. The pharasee's historically twisted scripture completely around and made it mean something it didn't. Pick and choose verses if you would like but I offer to you that it is only by the Spirit of God that you will be able to make sense of the scriptures. You believe and have faith in God and He reveals the truth to you, or, you do not believe, have no faith in God and the truth and fullness of scripture remain clouded and not understandable.

Amen and Amen!

 

[eHuman]

What about children who die in childbirth before they can be baptized or learn anything about god or Jesus. Are they doomed Satan worshipers? I hope there's a loophole for them.

Yes there is.

I'm doomed for not accepting a free gift? Talk about the fine print in the contract!

You are either drawn by/to the light or you are not.

What about people who condemn killing, stealing and destruction? Any loophole or that's not enough? What about Buddhists who take oaths and devote their life to pacifism and compassion but no nothing of god? Satan worshipers too?

Only two choices, even though it looks like many choices.

What about remote tribes in South America who have no idea about any religion? They are automatically Satan worshipers? Did they ever have a chance? Can there be a loophole for them too?

I still don't see why Satan gets the default position unless the free gift is offered and accepted. Shouldn't god get everyone that doesn't actively choose Satan? This makes Satan appear stronger. Help me understand.

The Holy Spirit draws and prompts even the lost. A person either believes or is drawn by it or they are not. Satan may seem stronger to you, but if you understood the truth you would see him as a spec of dust in the big picture. God allows Satan to roam for a time to try us. How could you appreciate light if you didn't sit in darkness? Some people love the darkness and refuse the light.

 

[blondeambition3]

honored SLAVE to a janty ego = blasphemy

It doesn't say that anymore.... Thank you!

 

[LisaLisa]

It is difficult to jump on a verse and use it as a weapon if you don't understand the context of the whole book. The pharasee's historically twisted scripture completely around and made it mean something it didn't. Pick and choose verses if you would like but I offer to you that it is only by the Spirit of God that you will be able to make sense of the scriptures. You believe and have faith in God and He reveals the truth to you, or, you do not believe, have no faith in God and the truth and fullness of scripture remain clouded and not understandable.

Perfect and AMEN!!!!!!!

 

[capecodjim]

It is difficult to jump on a verse and use it as a weapon if you don't understand the context of the whole book. The pharasee's historically twisted scripture completely around and made it mean something it didn't. Pick and choose verses if you would like but I offer to you that it is only by the Spirit of God that you will be able to make sense of the scriptures. You believe and have faith in God and He reveals the truth to you, or, you do not believe, have no faith in God and the truth and fullness of scripture remain clouded and not understandable.

So what about the part where all non-believers are satan worshipers just by the fact the don't follow Jesus? Where does that come from? Is that the spirit of god that helps make sense of that? God only reveals the truth to those who already believe and not to anyone else? Those who already believe don't need to be shown again. Would it make more sense to enlighten those who don't yet believe in hope of winning them over? Why such a big secret?

It's shocking to me that god would condemn even those who've never heard of him or followed a different peaceful belief. That so many people in the world are actually tools of satan doing his bidding. Why doesn't god have the inside edge? Maybe that's why god gets so mad and slams us all, no matter how much you believe, with storms and fires and floods and other disasters we call "acts of god".

 

[eHuman]

Brother I have laid it out three times. You represent that you don't understand, I represent that you don't agree.