atomizers I am working on

[patrao_n]

Question reonauts. I have modified an enigma Rd a for bottom feed. Made two cuts on the center pin. And I mean deep cuts. I also made a cross on the bottom to help the squonking. I figured if the hole in the connector was in the middle, then having cuts on the sides didn't really make it easier.

Now my question is. How are you people dealing with the really long time it takes to squonk? Any tips or are you just dealing with it? I cut my wicks short so most of the time they don't touch the deck (I dont like preheating my liquid).

Sent from my Reo Grand 3.0

 

[el_lou]

Question reonauts. I have modified an enigma Rd a for bottom feed. Made two cuts on the center pin. And I mean deep cuts. I also made a cross on the bottom to help the squonking. I figured if the hole in the connector was in the middle, then having cuts on the sides didn't really make it easier.

Now my question is. How are you people dealing with the really long time it takes to squonk? Any tips or are you just dealing with it? I cut my wicks short so most of the time they don't touch the deck (I dont like preheating my liquid).

Sent from my Reo Grand 3.0

The only Atty I've REALLY liked after modding, is my Atomic. It doesn't take long at all for the juice to travel up. What does take long is saturating the amount of cotton I have in there, since the atty is taller, which leads to the airhole being positioned higher... Sooooo, more cotton.

Now, the modded TOBH and the Igo-W, take a little bit longer to travel up. The only thing I can think of, is making those BF holes thicker for easier travel.

Also... What VG% is the juice we speak of?

EDIT: You may also want to check that your bottle isn't screwed on too tight and the o-ring is positioned correctly in the bottle cap?

 

[MsLoud]

EDIT: You may also want to check that your bottle isn't screwed on too tight and the o-ring is positioned correctly in the bottle cap?

O-ring? Bottle cap? Uhoh....
:runs to check

 

[el_lou]

In this picture, you'll see how my o-rings are positioned. The one in the middle works for me, luckily. I put that one on the base of the threads because I over tightened it once and the o-ring "lost it's shape", I guess? It gets all bent and ugly if I put it where the others normally go. But it works just fine.

Not sure if you can tell how I DON'T over tighten the bottles though.

 

[MsLoud]

Yep got the O-ring! whew...but now to order more e-liq. OMG have gone through almost the whole bottle! This Reo is like a pacifier hahah

 

[el_lou]

Yep got the O-ring! whew...but now to order more e-liq. OMG have gone through almost the whole bottle! This Reo is like a pacifier hahah

Yeah. My grand fully filled lasts me about 3/4's of the day and the mini's I fill up about 2 times a day.

I vape them both, constantly.

Reos do love their juice. Lol

 

[jklotz]

Reos do love their juice. Lol

I concur! It's my roe's fault I am now learning how to mix my own juice! That way, I can afford to stay in reoville ;-)

 

[patrao_n]

Bottle and oring are on snug but not tight. No leaking air or juice from the bottle nor the line. The juice is 80vg 20pg . My 2 slots are as big as I can make them without cutting the pin in half. It's just a really big chamber to fill, and get the wicks saturated enough. I still like it though.

Sent from my Reo Grand 3.0

 

[B2L]

Another fellow bf trident user! Right now, we are few and far between. I run mine at .4 ohm dual coil. Thinking about switching to nano coils though, they light up insanely fast and I can back off to 28 gauge instead of 26. Big difference in how quickly the two gauges light up

Looks like we won't be much longer. Running dual 28 gauge, 7 wraps on a 3/32 bit, .4 ohms and it does heat up much quicker than 24.

Question reonauts. I have modified an enigma Rd a for bottom feed. Made two cuts on the center pin. And I mean deep cuts. I also made a cross on the bottom to help the squonking. I figured if the hole in the connector was in the middle, then having cuts on the sides didn't really make it easier.

Now my question is. How are you people dealing with the really long time it takes to squonk? Any tips or are you just dealing with it? I cut my wicks short so most of the time they don't touch the deck (I dont like preheating my liquid).

Sent from my Reo Grand 3.0

On the ones I've drilled I use a 1/16 bit up and through the pin which allows great flow. On the others I've cut away 1/4 of the insulator which, if anything, actually squonks better.

 

[Steamer861]

I'm finding the same thing with my Hellios if the bottle is full no prob but when it gets to about half full it's hard to saturate the wicks because so much juice is needed
The Atomic on there other hand works Very well

Bottle and oring are on snug but not tight. No leaking air or juice from the bottle nor the line. The juice is 80vg 20pg . My 2 slots are as big as I can make them without cutting the pin in half. It's just a really big chamber to fill, and get the wicks saturated enough. I still like it though.

Sent from my Reo Grand 3.0

 

[thinkingaboutit]

Awesome!

Now more than ever, I NEEEED an LP!!!!!

That was my first thought before opening the thread

 

[rudy4653]

Oh heck he does all of that while working. Yes he's that much of a bad Ayuss. Women love a man that can multitask.

That"Most Interesting Man in the World" guy that can parallel park a train has nothing over the Robmeister!!!

 

[turbocad6]

I know everyone loves cheaper options and loves more options, but am I really the only one here who thinks that reosmods actually selling and endorsing clones/imitations/counterfeit copies of authentic atties isn't such a great idea? or am I maybe the only one who would even dare mention this here? I have a lot of respect for rob and reosmods, always thought of the high integrity of the way you do everything, but I honestly gotta say that selling and endorsing counterfeit stuff like this kinda takes away some of the high integrity we all know and love.

I don't say this to hurt anyone, I respect reo and that's the only reason I even stick my neck out here risking ridicule and hate for my opinion but honestly if rob was my best friend I would say the same thing to him, if I didn't care then I wouldn't even bother saying anything

to me I would suggest at least sanding off any counterfeit markings identifying the atty as something it's not and then sell them as modified atties based on such and such clone but no longer a clone really because you're removing the counterfeit markings, it was a clone but now it's just a modified atty. still don't know if I 100% agree with that but at least it brings you back on the good side of the integrity line. once you start endorsing counterfeit/clones your stepping over a line that might come back to haunt you. I only say this because I care about reosmods and up until now has been of the highest integrity in every aspect. maybe no one would want to be the first to say this here, maybe I'm the only one who even feels this way too but somehow I doubt that... I'd be the first to point and say the emperor has no clothes too I guess

please don't hate me for this post, I only post this because I care. it's one thing for an individual to decide to buy a clone or a counterfeit but it's a completely different thing for a usa mod manufacturer to start flipping counterfeits, hell even if you took off the counterfeit marks and put a reo mark on it would make it 100% legit, or of course no markings, but selling them as counterfeit rip offs of the originals just seems like a mistake to me. just one mans opinion of course

 

[el_lou]

I know everyone loves cheaper options and loves more options, but am I really the only one here who thinks that reosmods actually selling and endorsing clones/imitations/counterfeit copies of authentic atties isn't such a great idea? or am I maybe the only one who would even dare mention this here? I have a lot of respect for rob and reosmods, always thought of the high integrity of the way you do everything, but I honestly gotta say that selling and endorsing counterfeit stuff like this kinda takes away some of the high integrity we all know and love.

I don't say this to hurt anyone, I respect reo and that's the only reason I even stick my neck out here risking ridicule and hate for my opinion but honestly if rob was my best friend I would say the same thing to him, if I didn't care then I wouldn't even bother saying anything

to me I would suggest at least sanding off any counterfeit markings identifying the atty as something it's not and then sell them as modified atties based on such and such clone but no longer a clone really because you're removing the counterfeit markings, it was a clone but now it's just a modified atty. still don't know if I 100% agree with that but at least it brings you back on the good side of the integrity line. once you start endorsing counterfeit/clones your stepping over a line that might come back to haunt you. I only say this because I care about reosmods and up until now has been of the highest integrity in every aspect. maybe no one would want to be the first to say this here, maybe I'm the only one who even feels this way too but somehow I doubt that... I'd be the first to point and say the emperor has no clothes too I guess

please don't hate me for this post, I only post this because I care. it's one thing for an individual to decide to buy a clone or a counterfeit but it's a completely different thing for a usa mod manufacturer to start flipping counterfeits, hell even if you took off the counterfeit marks and put a reo mark on it would make it 100% legit, or of course no markings, but selling them as counterfeit rip offs of the originals just seems like a mistake to me. just one mans opinion of course

I hear what you're saying. And this somewhat reminds me of the other post hanging around in the front page about Reo Clones...

Not sure if I speak for everyone here. But myself? I enjoy THE BEST vape. Not necessarily on a "legit" atomizer or device. Whether it's "counterfeit" or a "clone" or an authentic... If Rob is selling them, so they can go on the best device 99% of the people reading this thread has ever vaped on... that atty is most likely THE BEST!

I'm excited about all the atomizers that are about to be released on here and this is coming from someone that has been into high-end "authentic" device trading/selling for a long time now.

 

[GreatestUnKnown]

Turbo I feel that it is a small blemish on the REO good name but the problem is that Rob is trying to meet the requests of his customers. I do not think that it was fair of me to say something when this thread began because I modify my own RDAs to be used on my REO, for some they are unable or incapable of doing so, whether it is physically limited or hardware/tool related. I did not comment because I thought that it was somewhat selfish or insensitive to the other REOnauts but am glad you did say something because you bring up a great solution, remove the logos/engravings/markings and re-brand them, not physically but in the nomenclature of them when offering them on the reosmods site.

I know that doing so would require more labor on Robs behalf but that can be justified in the price of the items for sale.

I do not wish to turn this into a "clone" or counterfeit debate but truly wish to hear what Rob thinks about the issue. I stated my views in the other thread and do not think that it needs to be repeated here.

 

[MsLoud]

I'll throw a few thoughts out here from someone who knows diddle and squat about clones vs authentic except the prices and from what I have read here.

I have sold quite a few things to clean out my past vape_rage of buying crap I had no idea how to use effectively. I finally settled on a ProVari/Kayfun clone because after watching many videos I was able to make a pretty darn good micro coil.

I finally wondered in this forum and started reading...I bought a Reo because of the passionate community here on ECF. I bought the RM2 LP because that's the atty that goes with the LP Grand I bought. I do not know how to mod/drill/press/dissect a dripper nor do I wish to buy the tools and learn.

I'm a "don't care how it works or what makes it work...I just want it to work..." kinda gal.

Sure, I could buy a drilled out used atty off the classies...but will it work? For how long? What if I need to adjust something with a drill because it's not_quite right? Take a chance?

No...I would rather someone knowledgeable with my gear give me a "BUY HERE" option to a product they KNOW will work on their other products. Been tested. Not frankenstiened in someone's hobby garage that they "think" will work with my Reo.

I am grateful to Rob for all he does for THIS community - does he have to? No. Reos will sell regardless. People will buy and mod whatever atty they can to work on their Reo. Others of us will just keep using the RM2/Igo on his site. But the mere fact he even listens and considers his customers who are not capable of modding is enough for me to wait for his attys and the "BUY HERE" button. His integrity is in tact.

 

[Ian444]

Nice post MsLoud.

This subject can divide a community, as it is simply a personal choice on whether we buy a clone or the real thing, with many individual factors involved in that personal choice.

I am sure Rob has thought through all this, he is always one step ahead.

 

[Funk Dracula]

I know everyone loves cheaper options and loves more options, but am I really the only one here who thinks that reosmods actually selling and endorsing clones/imitations/counterfeit copies of authentic atties isn't such a great idea? or am I maybe the only one who would even dare mention this here? I have a lot of respect for rob and reosmods, always thought of the high integrity of the way you do everything, but I honestly gotta say that selling and endorsing counterfeit stuff like this kinda takes away some of the high integrity we all know and love.

I don't say this to hurt anyone, I respect reo and that's the only reason I even stick my neck out here risking ridicule and hate for my opinion but honestly if rob was my best friend I would say the same thing to him, if I didn't care then I wouldn't even bother saying anything

to me I would suggest at least sanding off any counterfeit markings identifying the atty as something it's not and then sell them as modified atties based on such and such clone but no longer a clone really because you're removing the counterfeit markings, it was a clone but now it's just a modified atty. still don't know if I 100% agree with that but at least it brings you back on the good side of the integrity line. once you start endorsing counterfeit/clones your stepping over a line that might come back to haunt you. I only say this because I care about reosmods and up until now has been of the highest integrity in every aspect. maybe no one would want to be the first to say this here, maybe I'm the only one who even feels this way too but somehow I doubt that... I'd be the first to point and say the emperor has no clothes too I guess

please don't hate me for this post, I only post this because I care. it's one thing for an individual to decide to buy a clone or a counterfeit but it's a completely different thing for a usa mod manufacturer to start flipping counterfeits, hell even if you took off the counterfeit marks and put a reo mark on it would make it 100% legit, or of course no markings, but selling them as counterfeit rip offs of the originals just seems like a mistake to me. just one mans opinion of course

Cheers Turbo, I basically posted something exactly like this the other night, but edited it away to a mere smiley emoticon some hours later, deciding I wasn't in the mood to discuss it or the time to check back with the thread.

I'm of the opinion that modifying an atty to a bottom feeding atty, changes it to a somewhat different product entirely. If all labels were sanded off, it is separating it even further from any original.

It's strange territory indeed, and there is absolutely nothing illegal about it, especially with labels removed. There's just a small potential of backlash in the eyes of some people, in a small niche community that exists here on forums.

I'm also tending to view all the atty's Rob offers as just affordable "stuff out there/aftermarket stuff" that he mods in order to work with a Reo. It's more of a "service" than flipping clones. As long as he never labels a cloned Atomic as such on the site, I think there won't be too much stink or egg on a Reo's reputation. Again, I'm in agreement that removing markings/labels would be a pretty significant measure necessary to kill any potential negativity out of the situation dead.

Who knows...

Cheers

 

[Big Hitter]

I know everyone loves cheaper options and loves more options, but am I really the only one here who thinks that reosmods actually selling and endorsing clones/imitations/counterfeit copies of authentic atties isn't such a great idea? or am I maybe the only one who would even dare mention this here? I have a lot of respect for rob and reosmods, always thought of the high integrity of the way you do everything, but I honestly gotta say that selling and endorsing counterfeit stuff like this kinda takes away some of the high integrity we all know and love.

I don't say this to hurt anyone, I respect reo and that's the only reason I even stick my neck out here risking ridicule and hate for my opinion but honestly if rob was my best friend I would say the same thing to him, if I didn't care then I wouldn't even bother saying anything

to me I would suggest at least sanding off any counterfeit markings identifying the atty as something it's not and then sell them as modified atties based on such and such clone but no longer a clone really because you're removing the counterfeit markings, it was a clone but now it's just a modified atty. still don't know if I 100% agree with that but at least it brings you back on the good side of the integrity line. once you start endorsing counterfeit/clones your stepping over a line that might come back to haunt you. I only say this because I care about reosmods and up until now has been of the highest integrity in every aspect. maybe no one would want to be the first to say this here, maybe I'm the only one who even feels this way too but somehow I doubt that... I'd be the first to point and say the emperor has no clothes too I guess

please don't hate me for this post, I only post this because I care. it's one thing for an individual to decide to buy a clone or a counterfeit but it's a completely different thing for a usa mod manufacturer to start flipping counterfeits, hell even if you took off the counterfeit marks and put a reo mark on it would make it 100% legit, or of course no markings, but selling them as counterfeit rip offs of the originals just seems like a mistake to me. just one mans opinion of course

Good post Turbo ..... some good point to ponder.

I see why he is doing it ..... because he gets hounded by requests all the time. I don't feel its a bad thing doing it for that reason. He's not out to make a bunch of bucks on them and I'd bet he'd prefer not to be modding attys at all and leave it up to other folks.

I don't support clones and the whole situation really bothered me when it began happening with mods and logos and fake mfg markings. I think its stupid and I wish there was a way to end it swiftly. The Chinese only make what they can sell and if clones didn't sell they would start producing more original parts IMO that could/would sell equally as inexpensive.

But it is what it is ..... and if I were Rob I'd just look at as another way to give his customers what they want.

I own one clone out of all my stuff .... its an Atomic clone .... I own an authentic Atomic as well. I bought the clone to mod the pin and stick in the authentic .... just so I didn't screw up the original.

I'm pretty much a clone hater ..... but I never hate on people that buy them, sell them or whatever. I really don't have problem with what other people do .... its not going define whether someone is a good person or a bad person to me. People that know me know I never really hate on anyone ..... thats just a wast of energy.


I don't feel this should or would tarnish Rob's rep in any way ..... He's a stand up dood thats trying to taylor the REO to fit everyones needs. Its not like he's making the clones there in the shop ...... He's buying them, working on them, and turning them over for probably so little profit its not really worth it ........ but he doe's it anyone for his customers.

If anything I think it just bolsters his reputation as a stand up guy that you can trust to consider any needs we voice to him.

Maybe I'm just screwy or my moral compass is just way off ...... but I tend to judge people by how they act and how they treat others. I'd me more likely to be friends with someone that owns a business that sells 100% clones (which is illegal) than some jerk that walks down the sidewalk calling girls fat to their face and making them cry (not illegal)

What it really comes down to for me is it seems like the whole world is going to crap and there is like 9 million other things we should be worried about or trying to correct .....

 

[redeyedancer]

I am not taking a bottom fed atomizer and making a copy I am taking a dripper and converting the unit . This in my mind is not taking a drop of business from who ever the original creator may be . I would be the last person in the world to steel another mans idea or product . If I didn't convert these no one would buy them for a reo . I dont no how one could even see it any other way . If I started buying chalices or era clones you would have a point . There is a huge difference and to put me in the same light as a thief really rubs me the wrong way