Attack of the (Kayfun V5) Clones!

[2legsshrt]

I don't need 316L stainless steel, either, but I prefer it. And quartz instead of borosilicate, and so on...

Hey you can always get an authentic glass tank for 7.95

 

[VapingTurtle]

I would suggest canceling the SXK if you can.

I disagree with my knowledgeable and esteemed KTM friend on the SXK. The one that I received is outstanding quality with fine machining and a very nice finish. I have a Tobie incoming, but I can't imagine how it could be any better than the SXK in my hand.

It's all a crap shoot with clones and authentics as well, as I see it. It all depends on which contractor did the work for the brand name, which drill bit made the hole, which machinist happened to be running the lathe, what time of day and what day of the week it was made, the position of the stars, the amount of sunspot activity, and on and on. There are always good ones and bad ones of any decently designed product.

Too late as already shipped, wish I could, as don't like the no logo versions, makes it harder to judge juice control.

I prefer the logoless clowns. I feel like they they are just a little less counterfeit rip-off and a little more like copies of a good design. More like different brands of toilet paper rather than fake Rolexes. I wish the clone companies would put their own logos on them.

Either use the the mod to count the turns while opening it, use the air intake slots to indicate the position, or put a little mark or scratch on the tank with a Sharpie or an awl.

 

[dwcraig1]

I disagree with my knowledgeable and esteemed KTM friend on the SXK. The one that I received is outstanding quality with fine machining and a very nice finish. I have a Tobie incoming, but I can't imagine how it could be any better than the SXK in my hand.

It's all a crap shoot with clones and authentics as well, as I see it. It all depends on which contractor did the work for the brand name, which drill bit made the hole, which machinist happened to be running the lathe, what time of day and what day of the week it was made, the position of the stars, the amount of sunspot activity, and on and on. There are always good ones and bad ones of any decently designed product.


I prefer the logoless clowns. I feel like they they are just a little less counterfeit rip-off and a little more like copies of a good design. More like different brands of toilet paper rather than fake Rolexes. I wish the clone companies would put their own logos on them.

Either use the the mod to count the turns while opening it, use the air intake slots to indicate the position, or put a little mark or scratch on the tank with a Sharpie or an awl.

I'm wondering if the first batch that FT shipped out was different than the 2nd ones. Which did yours come from? Mine was from the first to ship.

 

[AstroTurf]

It's all a crap shoot with clones and authentics as well, as I see it. It all depends on which contractor did the work for the brand name, which drill bit made the hole, which machinist happened to be running the lathe, what time of day and what day of the week it was made, the position of the stars, the amount of sunspot activity, and on and on. There are always good ones and bad ones of any decently designed product.

THIS... Priceless!!!

 

[VapingTurtle]

I'm wondering if the first batch that FT shipped out was different than the 2nd ones. Which did yours come from? Mine was from the first to ship.

I donno. I ordered on 6/2 and it shipped on 6/16.

 

[dwcraig1]

I donno. I ordered on 6/2 and it shipped on 6/16.

That is same day I ordered, 1st batch I'd say.

 

[stylemessiah]

Eh... Don't worry about it. You wouldn't like it, anyway. You would just complain. It's not made out of a tree.

Actually the SMJY ones from 3fvape work out to be reasonable. Might have to get one.

I dont just love the TreeBox, i just love it hardest

 

[Cirus]

Eciggity is out of the stainless already. Ordered a black.

 

[magicmyst]

It's all a crap shoot with clones and authentics as well, as I see it.

Not as I see it. I own 5 authentic SvoëMesto tanks and one authentic R91. They are all perfect. In fact, I've had two authentic KFL and one authentic R91 for nearly 3 years and never even had to replace an o-ring. I don't recall ever even seeing a report of a defect in a SvoëMesto tank, and although I'm sure it's happened occasionally, they're covered by a pretty good warranty. The clones are the real crap shoot: some are OK and others are buggy. Many of mine had had issues with bad screws, machining and o-rings.

 

[Alien Traveler]

Not as I see it. I own 5 authentic SvoëMesto tanks and one authentic R91. They are all perfect. In fact, I've had two authentic KFL and one authentic R91 for nearly 3 years and never even had to replace an o-ring. I don't recall ever even seeing a report of a defect in a SvoëMesto tank, and although I'm sure it's happened occasionally, they're covered by a pretty good warranty. The clones are the real crap shoot: some are OK and others are buggy. Many of mine had had issues with bad screws, machining and o-rings.

As I see at authentics forum there are definitely some problems with authentic K v5, such as leaking. So what? Crappy Russian design, crappy German machining?

 

[KTMRider]

As I see at authentics forum there are definitely some problems with authentic K v5, such as leaking. So what? Crappy Russian design, crappy German machining?

Bad builds or inexperienced users.

The SXK is the worst of the 3 brands I have but I'm nitpicking to rank them. They all work great and I've had no issues with them functionally.

 

[magicmyst]

As I see at authentics forum there are definitely some problems with authentic K v5, such as leaking. So what? Crappy Russian design, crappy German machining?

You've listed one "problem" which is caused by user error, not design. An insufficiently wicked tank with a JFC option can leak. What problems are you having with your authentic SvoëMesto tanks?

Bad builds or inexperienced users.

Bingo!

 

[lumberjack]

I don't recall ever even seeing a report of a defect in a SvoëMesto tank, and although I'm sure it's happened occasionally, they're covered by a pretty good warranty. The clones are the real crap shoot: some are OK and others are buggy. Many of mine had had issues with bad screws, machining and o-rings.

One forum user here received an authentic chimney with two logos. Guess that's where my missing SXK clone logo went.

 

[sos2001]

Just ordered the black one from eciggity...had 2 left when I pulled it up.

 

[KTMRider]

Can we stop with the authentic vs clone argument? Go to the authentic threads for that crap.

 

[magicmyst]

One forum user here received an authentic chimney with two logos.

Yes, I remember seeing that, and with all due respect to that user, I find the "authenticity" of that chimney questionable.

 

[magicmyst]

Can we stop with the authentic vs clone argument? Go to the authentic threads for that crap.

I don't think there's much "argument" going on here. I'm really just sharing my experience: That the authentics are more carefully built, with more attention to detail and that some of the clones are very well built and are an exceptional value- that's why I own 6 of them!

 

[Phone Guy]

There are lots off flights out of Hawaii, I notice no difference in delivery times.

I've ordered from eciggity many times.

Packages usually arrive to me in southern california within 3 days with first class mail. Fastest was 2.

Man I hope you 2 guys are right. I got so mad reading thet email! Repeating in my head "cheap skate, try to save $4! Serves you right, now you'll get the focal order first!" LMAO.

I'll be sure to post my experiences - all friendly like!

 

[Alien Traveler]

You've listed one "problem" which is caused by user error, not design. An insufficiently wicked tank with a JFC option can leak. What problems are you having with your authentic SvoëMesto tanks?

Bingo!

No, not user error. You may read it by yourself. Bad O-ring.

 

[dwcraig1]

An o-ring is well......an o-ring