Baby Grand

[turbocad6]

dude, ..., you and me really think the same bro, it's crazy... I've had this same thought for my VV woodville conversion because it's so tall but I figured getting the atty in and out and recoiling/rewicking it would be a real pita so now I'm working on having a chalice half way recessed to where the deck and coil is right flush at the height of the top of the box, half in and half out made specifically for a chalice. that looks awesome, how hard is servicing the wick and coil?

 

[turbocad6]

what really re sparked my interest in the atty in the box is a billet box I got recently. I put a kayfun mini inside the tank of it which is inside the mod so only the driptip sticks out. yours really reminds me of that now

 

[Quigsworth]

dude, ..., you and me really think the same bro, it's crazy... I've had this same thought for my VV woodville conversion because it's so tall but I figured getting the atty in and out and recoiling/rewicking it would be a real pita so now I'm working on having a chalice half way recessed to where the deck and coil is right flush at the height of the top of the box, half in and half out made specifically for a chalice. that looks awesome, how hard is servicing the wick and coil?

Sure, kick me again for selling my full Ebony VVW...I really don't know what I was thinking and I couldn't get it outta my mind as I was building this thing, and there's just not enough meat in a straight WV (mind you, we've both managed to get DNA's in there )...I was also stalking the classys for a VV Grand, thought if I could pick one up for cheap in case I totally pooched it...but that's water under the bridge now...

Although it's my first Grand, it isn't the first time I've sunk an RDA into a bf's body, back when I was in love with OKR/Hammond 1590 rigs and the ERA's (precursor to the Cyclones) came out, it was easy to do (those ERA's were tiny) and in a box, that you're building from scratch, it's pretty easy...I think you've won if you can make it look like the mod/RDA is one cohesive unit...below's sunken RDA/bf was my final rebellion to tube mods.



The reason why I show this mod is because you always want to leave enough to grab onto so you can spin out of the mod...forget about rebuilding/maintaining in-mod, it's too much a pita...even considering mine are mostly hybrids where simply spinning the RDA off isn't an option (super low V drop has it's costs ), bty, the dimples on the cone covering the ERA are drilled out, for air (love it when that kinda thing happens )

I've never had the opportunity to own a Chalice and I don't know the height of the coils in relation to the "steps" in the body but I'd say sink it till it looks like it was by design, even if it means resigning yourself to pulling it work on it, I mean how often do you do that anyway?...isn't that why they invented #24 & RxW?

 

[want to quit]

Man, I really hate you sometimes lool. Your talent needs to be shared with us.

what really re sparked my interest in the atty in the box is a billet box I got recently. I put a kayfun mini inside the tank of it which is inside the mod so only the driptip sticks out. yours really reminds me of that now

 

[turbocad6]

yeah I really love my ebony wv, my most favorite mod out of all my mods really, the ebony is so nice in feel... I'd love an ebony vvwv



with the chalice I'm sinking it so it's slightly below flush with the deck, the posts on the chalice are pretty strong so I can tighten the chalice into it's recess against an oring underneath it with just the posts, and then that whole thing is recessed a little more, almost in a well. end result is it won't be sticking out of the mod more than approx 2 drip tip lengths total. and the chalice is so small that it just looks like one big drip tip really anyway. the chalice will stay on this mod permanently and will be easy to service and swap coils without removing the atty at all, I modded one of my chalice's to have 2 air holes and a AFC ring but on that one I'll probably just leave the chalice stock so it's as sleek and compact as possible

and now just to show again that were both really thinking on the same wavelength, I also build a dual tube side by side squonker very similar to the one you just posted too... and set it up where the top of the atty was only a drip tip higher than the adjacent tube too...

 

[turbocad6]

Man, I really hate you sometimes lool. Your talent needs to be shared with us.

ha, hey bro, you're one of the very few who actually has a chance to have something... it's still up to you if you really want it, you know by now I'm never selling any of my mods outright

 

[want to quit]

Haha! appreciated man. To appreciate your talent I need the right model for the job and you know how hard that is. The day will come my friend, the day will come. And stop posting pics man its a tease but I love it!! I don't want to look but I just have to lol.

ha, hey bro, you're one of the very few who actually has a chance to have something... it's still up to you if you really want it, you know by now I'm never selling any of my mods outright

 

[Quigsworth]

yeah I really love my ebony wv, my most favorite mod out of all my mods really, the ebony is so nice in feel... I'd love an ebony vvwv



with the chalice I'm sinking it so it's slightly below flush with the deck, the posts on the chalice are pretty strong so I can tighten the chalice into it's recess against an oring underneath it with just the posts, and then that whole thing is recessed a little more, almost in a well. end result is it won't be sticking out of the mod more than approx 2 drip tip lengths total. and the chalice is so small that it just looks like one big drip tip really anyway. the chalice will stay on this mod permanently and will be easy to service and swap coils without removing the atty at all, I modded one of my chalice's to have 2 air holes and a AFC ring but on that one I'll probably just leave the chalice stock so it's as sleek and compact as possible

and now just to show again that were both really thinking on the same wavelength, I also build a dual tube side by side squonker very similar to the one you just posted too... and set it up where the top of the atty was only a drip tip higher than the adjacent tube too...

There's been some threads lately that have caught my attention and "Ebony" always brings them to the front of my mind...

There's a high-end tool B&M close to my house in Canada (Lee Valley?) that has a 5"x5"x12" block of jet black, no streak Ebony in the exotic hardwood section. With a shop full of cool toys and 2 Woodvils to mic out. in every detail, (plus design in my rendition of Rob's mech. switch) my mind just won't stop...but I've read some of your comments on other threads and there's another trait we share...as fun as it would be, I just can't bring myself to do it...I even tried rationalizing...I thought, maybe I'll just buy it and use it for other mods...who am I kidding, I may tweak the dimensions, add finger grooves, sink the RDA, etc, hell, with that much Ebony I could do them all...problem is, at the end of the day, it'd be a Woodvil

I take no issue with peeps building and posting their Reo "like" creations, I've done it myself (in fact I've recently amped it, I'm now butchering actual Reos), I'd be willing to bet Rob gets a kick out of it, or at least just shakes his head..."what's he done now?, that's it!, hey Quidwort (stupid name btw), you're done, no soup for you!"....but to blatantly make a 1:1 copy?...way out of bounds as far as I'm concerned.

To not be hypocritical, buying a cloned RDA off ebay doesn't even tickle the needle on my conscience meter (that whole industry is eating itself, China may be capitalizing on it but not causing it)...now enter Rob's gear...you'd be going from sweatshop knock-offs of overpriced, mass produced widgets d'jour to becoming almost an art forger of an honestly priced, quality product made by someone who actually gives a s&#t.

Now that I've been schooled what stock Ebony costs as well as some of the other exotics Rob uses (holy crap!) and I think I have a pretty good grasp on how much work goes into designing/building a mod (sure I'm not assembly lining them like Rob obviously does but still...)...at the end of the day, being flamed by the Reoville loyal is the least of my concerns...my own conscience stops me...

So, that being said, there will be no more talk of Ebony, it just makes me sad

As for the same wavelength...

<<under my breath>>...the big difference between you and I brother is you've let the dark side corrupt you..you're entranced by the AMOLED blue glow of all your high tech, temp. controlled, VW reg's that work under water... (ok, I've built my share of reg'd mods too, but it's my soliloquy, I choose to ignore that fact by way of theatrical licence)...Turbo, I implore you, you must use the force for good, if you develop excessive V drop, don't just veil it with a few clicks of a tact. switch, you must restore the harmony, be the electron

Just pokin' fun...I know I'll never best you fit/finish wise, your craftsmanship is too good...but I'll gladly throw down the glove on a performance challenge...we can pick a neutral venue, say Cancun?...

 

[Ian444]

Well! What an interesting read! I love these modding threads that are Reo-based. So interesting to read the various thoughts, opinions and ideas everyone has put forth. Thanks everyone

 

[MamaTried]

Quigs/tcad challenge in Cancun?


can i be the judge? drinks on me

 

[Quigsworth]

Quigs/tcad challenge in Cancun?


can i be the judge? drinks on me

Hmmm, let me think about that for a...yes!

My only concern is Turbo's got himself some "unlimited class" mod he pulls out of the vault to smack down schlubs like me that challange him...powered by a reactor from a soviet submarine that he picked up on ebay

 

[turbocad6]

ha, ok I'm down for a Cancun throwdown, mama's bringing the bikini chicks I guess? not sure if he said bikini chicks or fried chicken, we had a pretty bad connection

but then the question becomes what is the criteria for "performance"? for me, performance is about consistency, reliability and repeatability, combined with fine tune tweaking control to dial in an ideal vape, and total usable run time comes into the equation too, not just solely based on voltage drop alone I'll admit that a mech can be more efficient when it comes to electrons lost, the electronic chips are only going to best out in the mid 90% range as far as efficiency, but then to me it more than makes up for it by allowing you to use the last 3rd of the battery reserve buck boosted and deliver as good of a vape as the first 3rd, that last 3rd is just lost with a mech, making it's overall efficiency down to like 66% overall in reality, so to me the electronics just flat out wins when it comes to what vape performance means to me and then what, your going to show how your getting 4.16 volts to the atty from your 4.2v battery? ok so I'll show 9v to the atty from my same 4.2v so there


ha, I can't help it, I just love my electronics

 

[Quigsworth]

Fried chicken served by chicks in bikinis, really, does it get any better?

...I love the pre-fight smack talk

Don't get me wrong, I'm too old to be some cloud chasing mall rat, I completely agree with your performance definition, it is more than just V drop, but in response to total usable run time (which speaks to efficiency)...I don't deny that a .... load of boolean algebra and p-n junctions can manipulate battery chemistry to extend and flatten a discharge curve...however, I've found that wrapping coils to match a specific voltage band and swapping the battery when it falls outside of that band, although a complex time sink, is a reasonable "consistency" trade-off for a wack of "reliability"

...all semiconductor wizardry aside, I'm thinking more of a "real world" performance criteria...safety first, we'll remove the batts (and you can remove the Chalice, it's far to nice to put in harms way) and it's important to note, we'd both be using highly modified Reos, so either way, Rob wins

Round 1: we'll place our mods on a tree stump for a week to enjoy the Pacific Northwest climate in November.
Round 2: ask our lovely wives (or one of the bikini chicks) to wash "and" tumble dry our fav. pair of jeans, with our mods in the back pocket (side note, I swear that was retribution for what I did that to her Iphone ).
Round 3: we'll place our mods on the roof of my truck, then after a heated discussion with a contractor we'll roar away...and because we're too proud, we don't go back for at least a couple hours to pick them out of the mud and dirt of a construction site.

Bonus Round: we'll kick them down a couple flights of stairs (concrete, no carpet)

...after all that, we'll return to our respective corners and the 1st guy to make a cloud wins...

"Greeny", and during a low point in her life, known as "ButtuglyZMaxNimby" ("glue job" for short), now known as the "Brass Grand" has already endured that, she deserved the mother of all make-overs and a gentle retirement...so I'll toss Baby Grand in the ring (RDA attached)

 

[Ian444]

I bought my Reo's for a good vape and low maintenance, not to put them on a tree stump for a couple of weeks or kick them down the stairs. Sure they are strong, that's just another bonus...I don't think its a good idea to write off electronic controllers, just my 2c.

 

[Stacy1]

Not something I'd want, but an interesting modification just the same.

Have nothing but time on my hands 24/7/365, but all of my metal, wood and gun shop floor and hand tools - metal, wood and parts stashes are in storage since the health issues took having a real life away. I bought some stuff to do minor mods on my Reo's... the larger bottles for the Mini's - auto fuses and pb spade connectors to replace springs = brass doors for Mini's and Grand's to patina - some bf atty's that are missing parts that need to be found and need to be rebuilt, others that could be modded to bf.... but all of it is still just sitting here unused. IOW, all I've actually modded was to open up air holes in some of my atty's for my long lung hits (and that with just a Dremel and machinists vise that happened to be in my bungalow). I don't like to go to my storage garages... it make me sad that i can't use what's in them anymore (including my Corvette).

How hard was it to mod the mini to take a bigger bottle?

 

[Stacy1]

what really re sparked my interest in the atty in the box is a billet box I got recently. I put a kayfun mini inside the tank of it which is inside the mod so only the driptip sticks out. yours really reminds me of that now

That Billet box is one sweet looking mod

 

[Stacy1]

Is it just me or is the Atomic a little fat in the useless, frilly metal dept.?...so I put one on a serious diet, shaved it down to the bone, basically made a perfect cylinder out of one (also removed the useless bottom lip...what, is the cap going to slide down?)

Then I got to thinking, I bet I could stick that "inside" a Grand...so I did...

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I love the look of your baby grand. Having the atty hid would be perfect for my stealth vaping at work

 

[Quigsworth]

I bought my Reo's for a good vape and low maintenance, not to put them on a tree stump for a couple of weeks or kick them down the stairs. Sure they are strong, that's just another bonus...I don't think its a good idea to write off electronic controllers, just my 2c.

Keep in mind these unfortunate incidences were certainly not intended...though as strange as it sounds, I'm glad they happened to my Grand... If it were any other mod I'd probably be buying a new one.

As for writing off regs (and I hope I haven't broad brushed, I have a bad habit of doing that...)..I like to poke Turbo, he makes some of the most stunning mods I've seen...I just pick at his fascination with tech... really, it's the only arrow in my quiver with that guy, lol.... sure I look a little goofy but meh... It's all in fun...

But honestly for me and my growing love for fairly deep sub ohm coils, the benefits when compared the cost/complications of running a reg are diminishing rapidly...I am actually a pretty geeky guy, and as much as I'd love my mods to have all the techno bling as my smart phone, my practical technician side kicks in...basically it comes to this, by driving 15+ amps (50+ watts) my discharge curve sucks, and I seriously front load my batts,I accept that... but to push that through a high end reg in hopes of any substantial improvement in consistency and batt life is really just wishful thinking... add to that I've painstakingly designed in a major point of potential failure in my mod... By ditching regs I've simplified my mod/ build considerably, increased its overall reliability...and all I have to do is change my batts more frequently.

If I was a 1 ohm guy I'd be all over the latest and greatest, why not, there's some cool stuff out there...but for my vaping style and the fact that I'm the one actually building (and repairing) it...this is one of those times where as much as I'd like it to, the ends simply does not justify the means.