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My employer requires you to be in a designated smoking area, and classifies vaping as a tobacco product. They are going tobacco free at the end of the year.Currently I have to sit in a vehicle with a min. of 3 other smokers to get my vape on. We used to be able to smoke outside but they figure it is healthier if we smoke inside a small confined space now. Corporate logic!
That may be illegal.
I'm no expert, buy I'm pretty sure that's not ok.
I mean, sure they can make you go outside... But I think the confined space would be illegal without proper ventilation.
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That may be illegal.
I'm no expert, buy I'm pretty sure that's not ok.
I mean, sure they can make you go outside... But I think the confined space would be illegal without proper ventilation.
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The other option is to not vape while at work.
You could get your doctor to give you a letter stating that you have acute allergies to cigarette smoke. Under the ADA they would need to provide you a safe area to vape.
Are electronic cigarettes medical devices? No. No one has a right to vape on property that they don't own. The compound I work at is completely tobacco free- e-cigs prohibited as well. Not on the property, not in our vehicles and not within site of the property. Are the rules extreme? Maybe. Are they legal? Yes. They own the property and I am an employee. If I don't like the rules, I am free to work elsewhere. I can wait until I take my long break, so I can leave the property. If I can't go several hours without a vape, maybe it is time to rethink vaping.
That may be illegal.
I'm no expert, buy I'm pretty sure that's not ok.
I mean, sure they can make you go outside... But I think the confined space would be illegal without proper ventilation.
Sent from my mobile, using Tapatalk... so ignore the typos.
It depends on what state you work in... the "laws" vary. For example; MO and KS are right to work states and that means if you don't like the rules you can quit at any time. They can demand you have to stand on your head once an hour and as long as you agreed to that when you were hired there is no legal recourse other than civil... and even that could be argued. Don't believe? Here is a real example; A friend went into work for his 9am shift. They told him they changed the schedule and he works at 4pm. He was ...... and called the labor relations board for the state. End result... he went to work at 4p because there was no recourse.
As long as you agree to work for an employer and have no medical reason to use a nicotine replacement therapy then you are S.O.L..
Even with a "medical" excuse the employer is only required to make a reasonable accommodation.
It is the end result of smokers being permitted to smoke everywhere... even in hospitals. This is an argument we will not win. There is to much of a social backlash. It does not matter how many tests prove the validity of our point. People are often not allowed to chew tobacco in the office... no secondhand smoke there, it is simply a lost argument.
Yes, there will be exceptions. But, those exceptions also bring the ones who want to be contrary out. Maybe we will be allowed to be closer to the building than real smokers... maybe we could argue that being forced to be near smokers is bad for our health.
This is about to hit a critical mass in the US. There will be some types of rules. Big Tobacco will try to take control. Be prepared for the worst case scenario and be appreciative if it does not happen.... but don't be surprised if it does.
Side note: I can build a stealth vaporizer and mix that would allow me to vape almost anywhere unnoticed. I do something similar at soccer practice for my son.
The disadvantage of becoming more mainstream is that we are no longer easily ignored. Remember WHY we vape and focus on that. We don't vape to have the coolest mod, we don't vape to blow a mile long stream of vapor that blots out the sun. We vape because smoking was killing us.
That's precisely why I vape. I'd gladly give up vaping if I thought I could pull it off; but the reality is that I'd be right back to a PAD. Straight up, we're inhaling stuff not normally found in the atmosphere so the obvious healthiest choice is to do neither. Reality is many of us can't, despite multiple desperate attempts to give up smoking. So I choose THR, which all the supposed studies seem to singularly ignore; my options seem to be smoke or vape, quitting altogether apparently isn't viable. I'd like to see the ANTZ compare the output of an analog vs an ecig in a GCMS and tell me with a straight face that my ecig is the wrong choice.
Vaping is considered tobacco use where I work, but I understand the policy of designated areas only. While I'm office, it is primarily a retail environment and customers wouldn't understand employees vaping and blowing clouds of vapor as professional even if they did understand ecigs.
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If they banished you to the smokers corner, maybe it is you time to participate in some marketing?
You're in NY. They ban everything. Black plastic rifles are more dangerous then this same rifle with a wood stock on it.
You also came this close to having a 32oz soda banned. And you can also blame NJ for putting ecigs in the same category
as analogs. Cuomo and Bloomberg hate being one upped by NJ.
In the hospital I work at patients are allowed to vape in their rooms (all private) if the doctor writes an order for it, and most of them do. Employees are allowed to vape in the break room provided nobody in the room with them objects.
I vape as I work it's scentless and disappears within a few seconds.
If I worked for someone who made me go outside I'd stealth vape in the restroom and loose more productivity due to more restroom breaks.
If I worked for someone who made me go outside I'd stealth vape in the restroom and loose more productivity due to more restroom breaks.
Glad to say I vape all over the office as I wish. It's good to be the boss.
Vapin' like a bawss!
And they'd have it... They could vape in work areas too.
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Another company I worked for banned smoking anywhere in the building even the shop where odors were so foul you couldn't even smell the cig smoke but allowed chewing, dipping, and spitting anywhere in the building. We smokers complained but were told the decision had been made but their door was always open to our resignations.
Previous posters are correct. If you own the place you can make any rule you want especially when it comes to tobacco.
Previous posters are correct. If you own the place you can make any rule you want especially when it comes to tobacco.
I treat vaping much like I did smoking, won't do it in restaurants or other non smoking places that it would attract attention. That said, I have my own office and when I feel the need I shut the door and vape. I've also been known to take a stealth puff or two off my eroll from time to time and my guilty pleasure is blowing a big cloud at the no smoking sign in my building's elevator when I'm on it alone.
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Reminds me of the day I grabbed my wife in an elevator in OR Thambo and kissed her like I was about to make a baby and then the door opened. The girl that walked in simply said: "don't mind me. As you were..."
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