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I get my bedding and my wicking confused sometimes. I'm old. [emoji1]
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I was about to get excited about a new wicking method [emoji38]
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Hey, I may have started a new trend in wicking. [emoji106]
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The debate goes on and on, best advice is to keep an open mind and try various wicking. You'll find the right one (or two, or three) that works for you.
Me, I can't stand Rayon, Cotton Bacon, meh it's OK. I stick with Koh gen Do cause it works best for me. But I still try others from time to time, last one was Cotton Candy brand and I think it sucks.
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Me, I can't stand Rayon, Cotton Bacon, meh it's OK. I stick with Koh gen Do cause it works best for me. But I still try others from time to time, last one was Cotton Candy brand and I think it sucks.
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"Name brand" cotton is a rip-off. Fact is when it comes to cotton all you need to know is that it's long staple (strand) and untreated with chemicals. After that it doesn't matter if it's got a name or is a generic product, or where it's grown, it's all the same. It's a plant, and it's not like "Koh gen Do" or "Cotton Bacon" has some special type of cotton plant that is different from everything else.
The overwhelming majority of "Japanese cotton" doesn't even come from Japan, they buy it from China and India. Almost all of the cotton actually grown in Japan is short staple, which is unsuitable to use as a vaping wick. Long staple cotton, which is the best cotton to use for wicking, is called "Egyptian" or "Japanese" or "ELS" or "Pima" or any of the dozen or so other market brands, but it's all essentially the same and originates from the same place.
As far as cotton wicking goes, there are only two real concerns.
First, you use a long staple cotton. With Long Staple the fibers are very long and don't fall apart easily. Like the wick in a candle, having long, study fibers works best for wicking. short fibers have more breaks in the wick, and every break is a choke point for the juice.
Second, you want the fibers pointed all the same direction. This is why the so-called Japanese cotton brands are so sought after. If all of the fibers are aligned in the same direction then the juice will flow that same direction unobstructed. If you get clumps of fibers pointed all different directions then that creates a choke point for the juice, which reduces your wicking efficiency.
So, when it comes to cotton it really doesn't matter whose name is on it, what you want is a long staple cotton that isn't treated in a bunch of nasty chemicals, that is produced in such a way that all of the fibers are aligned and pointing in the same direction. It can be name brand or a nameless generic product, but if you get that then you'll have the best wicking you can get from cotton.
I'm not going to compare cotton with other types of wicks and wicking materials, because that's a personal preference. You may prefer cotton, rayon, silica, or wire mesh. There is no science supporting your preference, it's a matter of personal opinion. However, when speaking of cotton alone what works best is a matter of science, not name brand preference.
The overwhelming majority of "Japanese cotton" doesn't even come from Japan, they buy it from China and India. Almost all of the cotton actually grown in Japan is short staple, which is unsuitable to use as a vaping wick. Long staple cotton, which is the best cotton to use for wicking, is called "Egyptian" or "Japanese" or "ELS" or "Pima" or any of the dozen or so other market brands, but it's all essentially the same and originates from the same place.
As far as cotton wicking goes, there are only two real concerns.
First, you use a long staple cotton. With Long Staple the fibers are very long and don't fall apart easily. Like the wick in a candle, having long, study fibers works best for wicking. short fibers have more breaks in the wick, and every break is a choke point for the juice.
Second, you want the fibers pointed all the same direction. This is why the so-called Japanese cotton brands are so sought after. If all of the fibers are aligned in the same direction then the juice will flow that same direction unobstructed. If you get clumps of fibers pointed all different directions then that creates a choke point for the juice, which reduces your wicking efficiency.
So, when it comes to cotton it really doesn't matter whose name is on it, what you want is a long staple cotton that isn't treated in a bunch of nasty chemicals, that is produced in such a way that all of the fibers are aligned and pointing in the same direction. It can be name brand or a nameless generic product, but if you get that then you'll have the best wicking you can get from cotton.
I'm not going to compare cotton with other types of wicks and wicking materials, because that's a personal preference. You may prefer cotton, rayon, silica, or wire mesh. There is no science supporting your preference, it's a matter of personal opinion. However, when speaking of cotton alone what works best is a matter of science, not name brand preference.
Tbh I think cotton bacon is crap, all I can taste is cotton no matter how well I break it in, I have 3 big packages that I'll probably never use. I thought for sure it'd be better but it's just not, even made a thread about it a while back...
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/index.php?threads/774803/
Most people who did like it said something about the break-in on pads which means they're doing it wrong, if you break the wick in on the atty after your build (just set temp to 390F so you can't burn the wick and drip right on the coil/pulse/drip/pulse till your wick fills up w/ juice) you'll never taste cotton again. Idk what's up with that stuff but the pads just seem to be way better than all the spendy branded cotton I've tried.
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/index.php?threads/774803/
Most people who did like it said something about the break-in on pads which means they're doing it wrong, if you break the wick in on the atty after your build (just set temp to 390F so you can't burn the wick and drip right on the coil/pulse/drip/pulse till your wick fills up w/ juice) you'll never taste cotton again. Idk what's up with that stuff but the pads just seem to be way better than all the spendy branded cotton I've tried.
Not really, I like muji a little better though. For whatever reason. YMMV
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Correct....it basically holds the juice and imo, if wicked just right and you have great juice flow, very little of the wicking material plays a part in flavor. Now if your wicking is off and your not getting perfect saturating and perhaps running to much power or chain vaping faster then the wick can keep up, then you will be tasting more of the wick
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Mesh was awesome! Still to this day probably the best wick for flavor ever, along with ceramic rods.
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Silk was tried for a while, forgot why it didn't catch on though.
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Best wick period ever, imo. But the lack of gennys forced me to switch to cotton, & the invention of TC let me and my ADD use it.
Still not a fan though, if genny's were still a thing I'd be using them (not talking about cotton drip tanks as that's not a real genny)
Yes no cotton gennies, not even close....I was dual using back then, I mean genny tanks and the kayfun with cvs sterile cotton. That new kayfun design was intriguing compared to my DID'S, so I gave them a go. It wasn't that the kayfun produced a better flavor, but the TH was much better and it seemed to handle slightly more wattage, more easily (a big 20 watts was all I had with my mech, at what was crazy low resistances then, .7 ---ooohh) anyways I just got use to the kayfun and slowly stopped gennying. I still have a genny tank set up and use it from time to time .
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Clarification update: I just looked at my stash of cotton and realized It was organic Japanese cotton Pads from Madvapes that had a taste to it requiring break in, the Ko Gen Do cotton is very good and did not have to be broken in. I just prefer Cotton Bacon since it's easier for me to work and it's fluffy, not compacted into sheets.I like Cotton Bacon V2. It's easier to work with for me and no break in, I just pull loose a piece the width I want and gently roll and pull to the diameter I want. The organic Japanese cotton sheets to me have a taste until they break in and harder for me to work with. Cotton Bacon is fluffier.
Others will tell you the opposite so cotton is a matter of taste like juice
In the thread you started I see a picture of the original Cotton Bacon. I never tried that, I have the V2 version and like it a lot, have you tried it?
The best stuff it's between the sheets it's fluffier and wicks well.
Yup. Peel off any skin and use the interior stuff. It's cheap and it works well for me. TBH, I've never had a cottony taste on any of my builds, but I have with some factory coils, especially the Smok ones on the BB/BBB, which needed an ml or so vaped through them and it went away.
It's v2, all the cotton bacon I have is v2
I've tried a lot of it, no matter how slowly I break it in does nothing for the flannel shirt taste.
eta here's one, I bought a whole bunch for cheap when one of my local vape shops was going out of business... I guess I saw that 100% tasteless thing and got all excited, but no. They all look the same but some are in larger bags. All v2.
My gf is a hairstylist and uses these for hair stuff now.
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You could probably pulse juice in gradually just like an rba coil, have you ever tried it with a factory coil?
Sort of, but it still took a bit to lose the strong cotton taste. It was actually the most I've found in any factory coil. IME, it's usually just mildly present in factory coils and resolves quickly, but the Smok coils I tried were very strong. It did resolve, and they've worked great since.
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