Best kept atty secret !!
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I started with a Joye 510 no-box kit from CIGNOT (great people, btw) received on Jan 4 2010. One of my original atty's is still functioning fine, as are both batteries. I have since ordered some additional atty's , ummm 4 more I think, and of the 4 only one has failed. So out of a total of six atomizers, I have lost 1.
i have some that i have had for 6 months now.. since i change them out as i change flavors would say that they have around 3 months use on them and they still work great. a lot of the time i will vape 30mls of fluid through them before cleaning them.. and its a simple cleaning 5 min everclear soak.. run some hot water through then a dip in everclear so they dry fast.. then after they dry and i am starting use of them i do a few dry burns.
Oh dear, I didn't realise they only last about a month!
I've had mines for a couple of weeks now and am already wondering if it has seen better days but it's so difficult to tell when I'm still getting used to knowing whether it's the cartridge that has dried up, the battery gone (and it seems to go VERY quickly!) then add to that the atomizer, argh!!
I guess I shall understand it all eventually
I generally vape at 6v and my atomizers usually last on the order of days and occasionally a week or two and rarely more. It's not uncommon when an atty dies that I go through 2 or 3 instantly or within hours and then hit on one that keeps going. Yes, I would expect them to last much (maybe on the order of magnitude(s)) longer if I was vaping at 3.7v.
Why the variance? I've decided that quality control/manufacturing tolerances completely suck. It's just the way it is currently.
My experience with KR808D cartomizers is that they are basically indestructible. The only cartomizers that burnt out on me were ones I tried washing after a month or so. Usually they just get rank and I toss them but not because they burnt out. Vaping with cartomizers is different and with the juices I like I prefer dripping with an atomizer but I do use cartomizers as well. just my 2c
I found the best way to save an atomizer is to keep it away from me. I'm not sure how I do it but 3 weeks tops and boom dead. It must be some special technique I'm using but I seem to have some knack for kiiling em in under a month. Feel like the black widow of atomizers.
It's quite simple in my mind. Attys are designed to be disposable items. Vape and when it pop's or no longer produces vapor replace with a new one.
I can see the attraction of attempting to prolong the life of Attys, though sometimes the lengths people seem to go through is disproportionate to the rewards.
I like the idea of cartomisers but I only vape at 6volts and having tried them at 6volts it seemed too much for them. Coupled with the thread about burning carto's I have opted to buy some 18650 @ 3.7 for my GG and will then try cartos again.
Just my $0.02
I can see the attraction of attempting to prolong the life of Attys, though sometimes the lengths people seem to go through is disproportionate to the rewards.
I like the idea of cartomisers but I only vape at 6volts and having tried them at 6volts it seemed too much for them. Coupled with the thread about burning carto's I have opted to buy some 18650 @ 3.7 for my GG and will then try cartos again.
Just my $0.02
Cartos don't do well higher than 3.7v I found. I do like them though.
I've had pretty good luck with cartos. I do like attys but they don't like me.
I can't for the life of me imagine one lasting 6 months or even longer.
I've had pretty good luck with cartos. I do like attys but they don't like me.
I can't for the life of me imagine one lasting 6 months or even longer.
I use cartomizers exclusively at 6v and have never had a problem, however I started using cartomizers when the 510 cartos came out, so i cannot vouch for kr-808 cartomizers at HV
ROFL, I can't imagine that either. I have a bag of dead attys, why, I don' know, guess I keep hoping some one will invent a use for 'em. I've killed Attys in under a minute. Like Quick1, I can go through 2 or 3 rapid succession, then find one that lasts a week. QC appears to be an unknown term in China. Same results happen at 3.7 or 6V.
Just my .02
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When you consider that cigarette prices are between 6-10 dollars PER PACK, and most of us spent that much or more PER DAY, even a new atty every WEEK is a good deal.
Going to order some right now
Going to order some right now
The kr-808 cartomizers work just fine at 6v (and are just as indestructible as they are at 3.7v). It's just that the vape gets progressively "sour" over time and refills. My theory on that is that it's because the juice in proximity to the sock and the juice that is being vaporized is constantly getting "cooked"/boiling (no, the filler and sock etc are not getting burned, I checked for that).
There is most likely a thread somewhere in here that shows how to clean your cartomizer, personally I boil them and let them sit overnight, I'll boil them again if there was a decent amount of color in the water (if i didn't vape them dry). After that, blow them out from the mouthpiece side till water stops coming out of the threaded side (some people suggest the threaded side but the mouthpiece side creates a pressurized nozzle effect) and let them dry overnight. When you first fill them up and use them you will be vaping some sort of bad tasting water (I recommend you don't inhale), after 30-45 seconds of vaping basically nothing, the flavor will come out and you will have a brand new cartomizer! One of my "refurbished" cartomizers actually performs better than any other cartomizer I have
Well... 4 out of the 5 that I cleaned just like that died after cleaning. At the same time I decided it just wasn't worth it for me to go through the cleaning procedure even if it did work. At $7 - $8 for a box of 5 I'll just toss them when they get too stale.
I also have a bag of dead attys and a bag of dead passthroughs. I have no idea why I'm saving them either.
I've run water through cartos to rinse them but never cleaned them. I just might try that. I usually stop them using them when the vapor production starts lessening.
Yeah I don't know what you all are going on about. If 15 minutes is somehow worth more than $6-8 to you then please, tell me what line of work you're in. I really need to get in on that.
Last week I popped one of my atties doing the dry burn (first time ever, fully charged eGo battery will do it). Instead of being SOL for 2-3 days, I consulted my deaders bin. Found two Joye 510 atties I bought about 6 months ago that had been retired. Part of that might have been because they were metallic green (only thing in stock at the time) but now that I have an eGo the cone covers it up.
Well on one I just did a regular dry burn, it was kicking .... all week. Last night I decided to take the other one and remove the wicking material and bridge. Now this one, THIS one is a vapor MACHINE now! Better than I've ever had a brand new atty working. TH, vapor production, flavor, all there. It's almost like vaping an LR atty without the nasty taste and high heat.
I buy 3 new atty's every 3-4 months, usually one of those is a dud that only lasts about three weeks. The others make it 2 months+ and I'm definitely not vaping them in a sub-par state, when you learn how to do the dry burn technique properly they're almost better than brand new ones.
Last week I popped one of my atties doing the dry burn (first time ever, fully charged eGo battery will do it). Instead of being SOL for 2-3 days, I consulted my deaders bin. Found two Joye 510 atties I bought about 6 months ago that had been retired. Part of that might have been because they were metallic green (only thing in stock at the time) but now that I have an eGo the cone covers it up.
Well on one I just did a regular dry burn, it was kicking .... all week. Last night I decided to take the other one and remove the wicking material and bridge. Now this one, THIS one is a vapor MACHINE now! Better than I've ever had a brand new atty working. TH, vapor production, flavor, all there. It's almost like vaping an LR atty without the nasty taste and high heat.
I buy 3 new atty's every 3-4 months, usually one of those is a dud that only lasts about three weeks. The others make it 2 months+ and I'm definitely not vaping them in a sub-par state, when you learn how to do the dry burn technique properly they're almost better than brand new ones.
As I've seen others say, some people find enjoyment in caring for their gear and trying to make it last. It's not necessarily about saving a buck. And besides, it's usually done in down time that would otherwise be spent doing something like watching TV or browsing the internet. It's not for everyone, but that's one of the cool things about the vaping world. There's a way for everyone to enjoy it on their own level.
BiffRocko got it right. I just tried to help my mother-in law kick analogs (and she seemed like she was going to, while we were with her), but I came to find out that after we left her, she started smoking again.
It seems like it all depends on how you spend your time with things. If you sit around and pine over how much you want to smoke an analog, you're not going to help yourself switch over. But, if you occupy yourself in absorbing your time in making your vaping life more influential, you can really make the time fly by and not only save yourself money, but save your lungs too!
It seems like it all depends on how you spend your time with things. If you sit around and pine over how much you want to smoke an analog, you're not going to help yourself switch over. But, if you occupy yourself in absorbing your time in making your vaping life more influential, you can really make the time fly by and not only save yourself money, but save your lungs too!
Atomizers are my biggest frustration. Really, I get the fact that they are disposable devices, and I have no problem replacing them. I'm getting tired of a great performing atty dying (as expected), pulling another one out of the same batch - same vendor, same manufacturer - and having it perform dramatically different. This has happened far too often to me. I know that we are dealing with lax QC processes from the manufacturers, but if I could get a batch of consistently excellent performing atomizers, I would pay a premium price for them.
BiffRocko, SpBoss-
I concur with what you have said. But for me, it's also about $$. It drives me nuts when I pay $6 for something and then not have it work at all. That $6 adds up after awhile. If you blow out 4 atty's a month - that's $16 that could have gone to juice, accessories or saved for another mod.
That's $$$ that I could have used towards something else.
The other thing is that I still have 3 atty's left that are 10 months old and still working. I originally had 7, but killed 4 on 5v mods. So why can't atty's work for at least 2 months before they die?
So, yep, it's all that was mentioned, plus $$ and lifestyle.
I concur with what you have said. But for me, it's also about $$. It drives me nuts when I pay $6 for something and then not have it work at all. That $6 adds up after awhile. If you blow out 4 atty's a month - that's $16 that could have gone to juice, accessories or saved for another mod.
That's $$$ that I could have used towards something else.
The other thing is that I still have 3 atty's left that are 10 months old and still working. I originally had 7, but killed 4 on 5v mods. So why can't atty's work for at least 2 months before they die?
So, yep, it's all that was mentioned, plus $$ and lifestyle.
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