best of ECF not so best

[rebgold]

I'm tired
stop spam mailing GT86,
angry man has big fish,
sea monkey stole my money,
vote for nicoticket,
whatever

 

[Clark46227]

Well said Spartan, however given that Nickoticket does have the best juice it all works out.....

 

[ReigntheGamer]

Were not mad, trust me. And I wont attack anyone verbally on the internet especially if they don't like my choice of juice. Emotions like that make you go grey or worse bald oh wait I am pretty bald but still.

Is NT the absolute best? Maybe not, and if I had unlimited funds and time I would try them all and probably find some I like better than NT. This poll is just a good opportunity to show our thanks to the NT family. Really the trophies don't matter at all the juice does.

But you wont see me starting any threads about the liquids someone else chose to vote for it is their right to do so. Vape on folks, I got some coils to build!
,

 

[Mazinny]

just gonna add, if you look at my post in the voting, I only voted for the juices I use. I think I voted in only 3 of the categories, so I am not inflating votes for anything that I don't use...just voting for the juices I use and personally like.

If you feel your vendor of choice should be better represented in the voting, then feel free to contact them and see how they want to go about promoting it to their customers. There is no rule that the vendor cannot promote the awards voting to their customers, in fact it is encouraged, the more voters the better

well maybe not for me cause I gotta count them all, but that's on me and the choice I made to do so

What he is doing is promoting awareness, just like CASSAA or any other group/politician out there, they promote awareness of the voting and then its your choice to vote or not for whatever juice is your favorite from whichever vendor

He actually has/is promoting the winning of the 2013 awards on his website. He was and is still very excited by that. Its still up there

As an aside, I do believe there is a thread or at least there was last year, where votes for best vendors was listed, I used that thread when I was looking for a juice to make my adv. I didn't actually go with the top one. I went with HHV which I think was in the top 10. Liked what I had from them, but then found my ADV from Nicoticket, which at that time wasn't even on that list.


sorry all I am not quoting, just commenting as I read. Don't take anything I say personally. feel free to comment on my post or attack or heck even pm me if you have any questions.

I will say though, If anybody wants to change their votes to a different juice, it should be done before I like the post. Once I like the post any changes to that post will not be counted. Once I count your votes the post will be liked.


Edit: wanted to add Clark likes every post he reads positive or negative. and that he will take any criticism into account as long as its constructive.

I hear you, and thanks for taking the time to tabulate the results. On the other hand, do you not find it a little troubling that it could be perceived as a Nicoticket promotion tool. Perhaps if you could change it to the most popular on ECF instead of 'Best of " ? I mean i realize that the decks are not stacked and fans of all vendors could vote, but i personally find it a little strange that the results are so clearly not indicative of the general ECF vaping population. It just can't be that 90 % of of ECF'ers think that Nico has the best juices in all categories.

For the record, i have nothing but praise for how Nicoticket is run, and i have tried four different Nico juices and i think they are fine juices.

 

[Bored2Tears]

I'm going to restate my comment. Never tried Nicoticket juices, so I have no opinion on them. Nor will I vote , because I am too new to have tried enough juices to feel like I'm informed.

The original post is asking if NicoTickets approach is fair / acceptable? I think it's great business sense to try and win and reach out to his loyal customers for support.

It's a 100% subjective poll of what do you like best. It becomes free advertising for him....and apparently by winning in a few categories last year he has seen tremendous growth in his business. Good for him.

I'd like to ask why his competition didn't follow suit and get out the vote themselves. Just my two cents.

I agree wholeheartedly that it doesn't necessarily mean 90% of ECF members think it's the best juice out there. It means he has done an excellent job of telling his customers about this poll. And by doing so, he got some great publicity.

Sounds like a smart businessman to me.

 

[DaBucs]

I hear you, and thanks for taking the time to tabulate the results. On the other hand, do you not find it a little troubling that it could be perceived as a Nicoticket promotion tool. Perhaps if you could change it to the most popular on ECF instead of 'Best of " ? I mean i realize that the decks are not stacked and fans of all vendors could vote, but i personally find it a little strange that the results are so clearly not indicative of the general ECF vaping population. It just can't be that 90 % of of ECF'ers think that Nico has the best juices in all categories.

For the record, i have nothing but praise for how Nicoticket is run, and i have tried four different Nico juices and i think they are fine juices.

That would be up to DanG as hes the head cheese on this, I just do the grunt work lol
but all I can say is get the word out there, the more votes the better
also perception is like opinions, don't matter what you say, what they/you think or believe is how they/you see things, myself included

 

[DaBucs]

I'm going to restate my comment. Never tried Nicoticket juices, so I have no opinion on them. Nor will I vote , because I am too new to have tried enough juices to feel like I'm informed.

The original post is asking if NicoTickets approach is fair / acceptable? I think it's great business sense to try and win and reach out to his loyal customers for support.

It's a 100% subjective poll of what do you like best. It becomes free advertising for him....and apparently by winning in a few categories last year he has seen tremendous growth in his business. Good for him.

I'd like to ask why his competition didn't follow suit and get out the vote themselves. Just my two cents.

I agree wholeheartedly that it doesn't necessarily mean 90% of ECF members think it's the best juice out there. It means he has done an excellent job of telling his customers about this poll. And by doing so, he got some great publicity.

Sounds like a smart businessman to me.

this....just like everything else, if your not aware then you wont vote....lets help get folks aware and get em voting!!

 

[Mazinny]

That would be up to DanG as hes the head cheese on this, I just do the grunt work lol
but all I can say is get the word out there, the more votes the better
also perception is like opinions, don't matter what you say, what they/you think or believe is how they/you see things, myself included

I really wish more people voted as well. I know i did. On the other hand i can understand why some wouldn't bother. It just feels like the free voting in the Saddam Hossein era in Iraq where he would win with 99 % of the votes. When it becomes so lopsided, people don't take it seriously any more. Almost feels that they don't want to legitimize it by voting.

btw. Based on their fans activity in the eliquid threads and the proselytizing, i predicted a Nicoticket clean sweep before a single vote was cast. But even i was surprised by the margin.

 

[timworld]

I really like Rebgold started this thread. As a foreign member of ecf forums, I'm kinda hooked on this best of ecf 201* thing, but it's not what I'm looking for. I don't believe that 90% of ppl in US vape nicoticket. It just not true.

I have thesteamco 100$ cart and five pawns 100$ cart ready to be paid.

Should I cancel and get nicoticket for this money because they are the best of 2014???

You tell me.
Though I got my nicoticket order two days ago and liked only 3 out of 8 juices. Those 5 out of 8 isn't better some of mtbackervapor for me.

Ps. You Americans seem eat custard for every meal. I don't like tasting eggs in my dessert, I want them in the sour. And something on top. Itc sp v2 vs strawnilla. And I don't count money here.

 

[DeathBYzombieZ]

So as far as this contest, best of ECF goes, a vendor can do this-
Nicoticket sends out emails to all his customers/newsletter subscribers asking for them to vote and provides a link. No other vendor does that! Almost stuffing the ballot box, or making a campaign out of it. When he wins all categories, which he will, he'll then post a big "Voted number one on ECF" on his website. Maybe it's a smart business move, but kinda slimy IMO. He even goes so far to "like" all the posts that vote for him. In that type of instance, the ECF rules for vendors have grey areas

But they can't participate in discussions? I don't get it. They can abuse being a vendor when it matters, like a contest which by nature should be fair, but they are mistrusted that they will abuse being a vendor when it comes to a regular thread where people are just discussing juices?

Mad Murdock isn't going to win. I voted Nicoticket because I like them not because someone told me to.

 

[classwife]

I hear you, and thanks for taking the time to tabulate the results. On the other hand, do you not find it a little troubling that it could be perceived as a Nicoticket promotion tool. Perhaps if you could change it to the most popular on ECF instead of 'Best of " ? I mean i realize that the decks are not stacked and fans of all vendors could vote, but i personally find it a little strange that the results are so clearly not indicative of the general ECF vaping population. It just can't be that 90 % of of ECF'ers think that Nico has the best juices in all categories.

For the record, i have nothing but praise for how Nicoticket is run, and i have tried four different Nico juices and i think they are fine juices.

On the other hand, do you not find it a little troubling that it could be perceived as a Nicoticket promotion tool.

Very simply, it would not have remained open if that were the case.




Some groups are just more enthusiastic than others ( ProVari, REO...)


Seriously folks, don't make it out for any more than what it is...just...HAVE SOME FUN !!!

 

[sc12]

It's just not a very good contest if only one vendor is campaigning for it.
I think most people won't even notice it or vote in it, so it seems like if one vendor sends out links and reminders, it's just a club page for that vendor.
Did any other vendors even get any votes? It's not exactly a tight race if only one vendor gets the votes because on one vendor is campaining.

At the time I scanned through responses, yes, there were quite a few votes for eLiquids other than Nicoticket. I did see posts where Nicoticket was listed in a couple of categories with other vendors in the remaining categories. Looks like most folks are posting what they actually like and vape. Nothing sinister going on here imo. People can vote or not as they wish.

 

[timworld]

In general to be fair to everyone ECF and all of the suppliers should do the same. I saw only nicoticket asked to vote for them on Facebook, and none of the other 5 vendors I really like asked for this. Its just frustrating.
So now I'm thinking if other vendors don't care about this awards they are confident, they are that good that they don't even need to ask for their customer to vote for them. Am I wrong?

Ps I like wakonda, gcd, doodle, and virus that's it for nicoticket for now

 

[classwife]

Let's not start in with making rude comments to each other in here please


Either play nice or go elsewhere.

 

[Mazinny]

Very simply, it would not have remained open if that were the case.




Some groups are just more enthusiastic than others ( ProVari, REO...)


Seriously folks, don't make it out for any more than what it is...just...HAVE SOME FUN !!!

I know it's not, i was just talking about the perception.

It should be fun. I was actually generally interested to find out what my fellow ECF'ers like as a whole. Didn't expect it to become a gauge of " which vendor is this vote more important to " o "which fans are more emotionally invested to the success of their favorite vendor".

It's all good though, nobody is at fault here. All it means to me is that the results are not indicative and i don't take them as seriously as i would have otherwise.

Kent is one of the good guys and i wish him continued success !

 

[Skeebo]

When it becomes so lopsided, people don't take it seriously any more. Almost feels that they don't want to legitimize it by voting.

This is exactly the reason I'm not voting. Why bother? If NT wants it that badly, they can have it. I ordered Virus because it won the tobacco category last year. I like tobacco vapes and read it was a NET. When I got it, I was greatly disappointed because a tobacco vape it is not-- there is not a tobacco likeness to be found.

Last year, I was new to vaping. I was captured by the allure of an award winning juice, and in the end found the awards did not vape well for me. With that said, I seem to be in the minority and I can respect that today because I know who my go to vendors are.

 

[xtwosm0kesx]

Seriously, what planet are we living on here?

Other juice vendors don't care enough/aren't active enough on ECF to take the time to inform their customers about an UNOFFICIAL contest, so that justifies insinuations about Nicoticket and the people who support it?

Going so far as to suggest they're intentionally skewing results because their customer base actually cares enough to vote/voice their opinions?

Nicoticket has shipped a grand total of 30876 orders since coming into existence, a number likely dwarfed by the total lifetime volume of the older 'big name' vendors.

Even if those 30876 orders were unique individuals (we know some had to be reorders), that's still a tiny # of people compared to someone like AVE, or MM.

It simply comes down to the fact that customers of those vendors (me included) are apparently not as passionate about the product as Nicoticket customers.

The whole its already skewed so why even vote thing is just lol, there's plenty of people voting for non-NT juices that think its obv worthwhile.

 

[ReigntheGamer]

Seriously, what planet are we living on here?

Other juice vendors don't care enough/aren't active enough on ECF to take the time to inform their customers about an UNOFFICIAL contest, so that justifies insinuations about Nicoticket and the people who support it?

Going so far as to suggest they're intentionally skewing results because their customer base actually cares enough to vote/voice their opinions?

Nicoticket has shipped a grand total of 30876 orders since coming into existence, a number likely dwarfed by the total lifetime volume of the older 'big name' vendors.

Even if those 30876 orders were unique individuals (we know some had to be reorders), that's still a tiny # of people compared to someone like AVE, or MM.

It simply comes down to the fact that customers of those vendors (me included) are apparently not as passionate about the product as Nicoticket customers.

The whole its already skewed so why even vote thing is just lol, there's plenty of people voting for non-NT juices that think its obv worthwhile.

If I could give more than one like I would be spamming it for this.

 

[jdrewry]

To the OP:

I've been a customer of Nicoticket for over a year, but I've never received an email telling me to vote for them. If you received one, can you post it here? Curious to see what it looks like.

 

[Skeebo]

Here's the email I got today.

BEST OF ECF 2014 VOTING IS LIVE!!
View this email in your browser
The BEST OF ECF 2014 VOTING IS NOW UP!

The link is HERE. Please keep in mind that you can only vote for (1) liquid per category! We would be humbled an honored if you took the time to head out and vote! Here are the categories:

1) Best Bakery/Dessert:
Nicoticket - Custard's Last Stand (CLS)
Nicoticket - Creme Brulee (CB)
Nicoticket - Grandma's Cinnamon Danish (GCD)
Nicoticket - Frenilla
Nicoticket - Got Cookie? (OR3O)
Nicoticket - The Doodle (Snickerdoodle Cookie)
Nicoticket - Peanut Butter Cookie (PBC)

2) Best Tobacco:
Nicoticket - The Virus (H1N1)
Nicoticket - Radioactive

3) Best Menthol:
Nicoticket - Coolcumber Mint

4) Best Fruit:
Nicoticket - Strawnilla
Nicoticket - Betelgeuse
Nicoticket - Gravity
Nicoticket - Hummingbird


5) Best Candy:
No entry from us, unless you count the ZOTZ that come with Nicoticket's Purple Packages - LOL

6) Best Coffee:
Nicoticket - Wakonda

7) Best Beverage/Tea:
Nicoticket - Root Beer Float

8) Best Unique:
Nicoticket - Absolute Creme Brulee (Creme Brulee/Tobacco Hybrid)
Nicoticket - Roundhouse (Cherry Rose Tobacco - Floral)


It's been an absolute pleasure serving you this year. We've done our best to "surprise and delight" on every interaction. We hope we've earned a vote!

Thank you - one and all - for an absolutely amazing 2014! We're looking forward to another amazing year!!

CLICK HERE TO CAST YOUR VOTES!!