I use 555 just about always and I've run one of these for 2 weeks without any problems. same vapor, same everything. I think you must be doing something wrong or maybe it's the juice you use. I vape this all day long usually. I'm not saying I get 2 weeks out of all of them but they do outlast any other carto I've used by far. I did have one that the hole plugged up on after using it along time but after I cleaned out the hole it went on for awhile.
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I've been through lots of cartos and waffles and bananas foster from TV (my two favorite vapes) gunk them up super fast. I was really hoping it wouldn't happen with these but the waffles carto is in dire need of cleaning and the BF carto is right behind it. Their first, second and even third fills were great but quickly declined in quality. I'm not a huge fan of attys (even though my main vaper is a Phidias) but they are the only thing I can dry burn to refresh. Cartos are way more convenient IMO and produce great flavor initially, but I just have no luck finding any that can go the distance with these juices.
That's odd Industrial, I run some pretty thick dark juices through my Fusion cartos and I have been running one of these for quite some time now with no problems
I believe it is high time to rid the misnomer that cartos will last for ever, they don't and they shouldn't be expected to either.
Liquid will play a large role in carto longevity as well as vaping style. I had a 510 dripper clogg in 3 days. I knew going in it wouldn't last, because the liquid I used was a known atty clogger let alone a carto clogger. The other dripper is still running at about 95% capacity after a week. I say 95% because it has started to stiffen up. It still performs well, but it is diminishing daily as time goes by. This of course is with 100% VG liquid, although it is cut 4/1 with distilled water.
Cartos were never intended for extended use, this is something we as vapers have decided. There is nothing wrong with the practice of frugality. In this economy a penny saved is indeed a penny earned. That being said is it a poor performer or are our expectations out of wack. I' ve had cartos last me 5 weeks and some 2 weeks with the same liquid. I also had cartos (the same brand) last a few days and one was tossed after a fresh fill, it was too tight. The latter was the exception, one in twenty was good odds, considering I get 2-3 weeks out of 'em.
No, I honestly believe that vaping as turned us all into a bunch of cheapos LOL. We never thought twice about spending $10+ a day for smokes but we sure ..... about spending less than a dollar or two a day vaping (shakes head), it simply doesn't make polar sense LOL.
So after all that... we are left with a couple of choices: accept the fact that certain liquids will foul our equipment up sooner than others; or change liquids. I washed a dripper, and it is still good, but it is no longer great. I will not re-use this particular carto when it dies once again. What I did learn from my experiment is that I will not use that particular liquid with my cartos in order to increase longevity. Since switching over to VG (not by choice) I had to become a dripper more or less it is a fact that I also had to accept. No biggy, I use my cartos away from home when I'm out and about. The down side of dripping as everyone knows, we go through a hell of allot more juice, but the costs pale in comparison with smoking. I think we all need to be a little more realistic wrt our expectations.
Liquid will play a large role in carto longevity as well as vaping style. I had a 510 dripper clogg in 3 days. I knew going in it wouldn't last, because the liquid I used was a known atty clogger let alone a carto clogger. The other dripper is still running at about 95% capacity after a week. I say 95% because it has started to stiffen up. It still performs well, but it is diminishing daily as time goes by. This of course is with 100% VG liquid, although it is cut 4/1 with distilled water.
Cartos were never intended for extended use, this is something we as vapers have decided. There is nothing wrong with the practice of frugality. In this economy a penny saved is indeed a penny earned. That being said is it a poor performer or are our expectations out of wack. I' ve had cartos last me 5 weeks and some 2 weeks with the same liquid. I also had cartos (the same brand) last a few days and one was tossed after a fresh fill, it was too tight. The latter was the exception, one in twenty was good odds, considering I get 2-3 weeks out of 'em.
No, I honestly believe that vaping as turned us all into a bunch of cheapos LOL. We never thought twice about spending $10+ a day for smokes but we sure ..... about spending less than a dollar or two a day vaping (shakes head), it simply doesn't make polar sense LOL.
So after all that... we are left with a couple of choices: accept the fact that certain liquids will foul our equipment up sooner than others; or change liquids. I washed a dripper, and it is still good, but it is no longer great. I will not re-use this particular carto when it dies once again. What I did learn from my experiment is that I will not use that particular liquid with my cartos in order to increase longevity. Since switching over to VG (not by choice) I had to become a dripper more or less it is a fact that I also had to accept. No biggy, I use my cartos away from home when I'm out and about. The down side of dripping as everyone knows, we go through a hell of allot more juice, but the costs pale in comparison with smoking. I think we all need to be a little more realistic wrt our expectations.
I'm not expecting any carto to last forever. I just hoped they would last LONGER than my 510 cartos. I am the last person anyone would call cheap. The reviews and hype made me THINK they would stand-up to my juice better. Unfortunately, I'm finding that they don't.
BTW - that carto I've been talking about lasted four days before it was clogged.
BTW - that carto I've been talking about lasted four days before it was clogged.
which ejuice are you using...... I use either PS tonic ejuice or V4Lchinese stuff... both work great and the 801 fusion i got lasted me 2 weeks without cleaning where the boge 510 cartos lasted me a week. Any heavy VG 50/50 or more will even kill regular atties faster than a 20/80 or pure PG mix.... I learned that lesson the hard way.
Have you tried blowing into the carto on the threaded side.... also take very clean toothpick or nail and center the hole where the wire is in the carto.
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I'm having issues with waffles and bananas foster from TV. 24mg, 20%VG.
I know how to clean them and I'm getting ready to run through my process buy my point in posting was to see if any others are running in to the same problems with other juices like these two. My orange cream pop from TV is doing just fine in the 801 fusion so it isn't all bad.
Mine started to plug up tonight and I wanted to try something so I blew through it from the battery end and some juice came out that was a little darker than mine. It did however resume to work good. I don't expect it to last much longer but I do get more time on Ikenvapes cartos than regular 510 and 808 cartos. Not all cartos last the same length anyway but as Switched said they're not Made too.
BTW I use 100% pg juice because G gives me terrible headaches.
BTW I use 100% pg juice because G gives me terrible headaches.
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I think mine last longer simply because I'm an Atty guy, I load up 2 cartos and take a few pulls and sit down then come back to it when I feel like a vape of a different flavor, I don't put my daily vape in my cartos I load them with numers 5 & 6 flavors, I rotate a bunch of different flavors all day and usually have two VV Devices with the Iken 2ohm Mini 801's on them and a 3rd device with an LR 510 and a 4th with an LR901,,,, then come my carto's on #5 & #6 so hitting them like this instead of chain vaping makes them last longer for me and I usually keep dripping tips on them too and put a couple drops in them to freshen them up when I do hit them, just how I do it what can I say
I'd like to do it that way but I'm always too busy to fill cartos and usually do it on the run. Some day I need to fill a bunch ahead of time. I think your way is better.
I'm not sure what we do is called hype. Not being a "carto" dude perse, some are great and some are downright awful. The thing with liquids is that some will clog not only cartos quicker but atomisers as well. The Rath "waffle juice" was notorious for that. But many accepted the fact for the great taste. I am a cheap SOB just like anyone else, but I do accept certain uncontrollable facts in seeking and reaching vaping Nirvana.
FWIW my RY4 dripper is starting to foul again. Is it a bad carto? No! as the Blackberry Menthol is still going strong. So what have I learned with this experiment? Levy's RY4 is an atty/carto killer in straight VG. BTW XTreme Vaping is my sole supplier of unflavoured liquid. He gets his flavouring from "want2vape". Will I buy the RY4 flavouring again? No. Why? Because it is a good vape but it is not RY4. Because it is not RY4 and kills attys/cartos quicker than you can say Jack Robinson, I will pass.
Cutting the viscosity of my liquid to mimick PG has provided dividends for me. I have yet to find any problems associated with all VG liquids, wrt atty/carto longevity. Cartos do foul a little quicker, but not something that is grossly out of the norm. What was grossly out of the norm was an HV 306 atty fouling in two days with the want2vape RY4 flavouring. I knew this going into the "510 dripper" test. Having recently received my 306 attys, and abstaining from using this particular flavouring, the HV306 is performing as expected and is still going strong after a week.
So in short, if these particular juices do not work for you in cartos, I doubt that any of IkenVape cartos will work for you while using that particular liquid. It is the liquid perse and not the equipment. Having said that, IkenVape is my sole supplier for attys/cartos, because it is not hype but consistent performance, straight out of the box.
I am presently working on a massive compilation of carto reviews for comparative purposes, given the pros and cons of each (my opinion) so folks can see what better fits their vaping style(s). finishing the review off with my preferences in order. I hope this clarifies a few comments for you and brings things in perspective.
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ahhhh I see whats going on..... some of Tasty Vapors mixes uses oil based flavors and some use water based flavors...... that will make a huge difference as well.... check the thickness in those two flavors and compare with others. if you can on your next order do 10%VG with those flavors and see what happens...I'm betting there oil based..... this may make a huge difference.
Whew! What a weekend! I'm sorry for not being here guys. I promised the family that I would take the weekend off 
I didn't see any hype on these 801 Fusions. They are simply Premium Platinum 510 cartomizers fused with an 801 fitting.
IA, You might want to take the problem over to Tasty Vapor. You have just too many different types of units that are getting clogged. Waffle and Foster do contain sweeteners. These sugars harden up when heat is applied thus causing the "gunk". I don't think you would find any poly cartomizers to fit the bill. Maybe try E2? as they are fillerless?
I didn't see any hype on these 801 Fusions. They are simply Premium Platinum 510 cartomizers fused with an 801 fitting.
IA, You might want to take the problem over to Tasty Vapor. You have just too many different types of units that are getting clogged. Waffle and Foster do contain sweeteners. These sugars harden up when heat is applied thus causing the "gunk". I don't think you would find any poly cartomizers to fit the bill. Maybe try E2? as they are fillerless?
... and there was nothing wrong with that.Whew! What a weekend! I'm sorry for not being here guys. I promised the family that I would take the weekend off
Slacker! lol Good to see ya.Whew! What a weekend! I'm sorry for not being here guys. I promised the family that I would take the weekend off
Whew! What a weekend! I'm sorry for not being here guys. I promised the family that I would take the weekend off
It's about time. Last I heard from yuo, you had been up all night and it sounded like you needed a little R&R. I'm glad you got some.
So are the platinum better than the gold 510s?
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I'm pretty sure the Platinums are around 2.5 ohm and the Golds are around 3.0 ohm
Whew! What a weekend! I'm sorry for not being here guys. I promised the family that I would take the weekend off
I didn't see any hype on these 801 Fusions. They are simply Premium Platinum 510 cartomizers fused with an 801 fitting.
IA, You might want to take the problem over to Tasty Vapor. You have just too many different types of units that are getting clogged. Waffle and Foster do contain sweeteners. These sugars harden up when heat is applied thus causing the "gunk". I don't think you would find any poly cartomizers to fit the bill. Maybe try E2? as they are fillerless?
Hey, Iken, good to see you on the boards again. My family sent me back to the office today, I think they had their fill, ha-ha!
The "hype" part of one of my comments came from early reviewer's statements that they were getting four plus fills out of them. I got three and the third wasn't that great.
I know all about the tendency of these two juices to ruin cartos. I've been battling it for some time. I had hoped that these would be different, but they were in-line with others.
If I use an atty, I never run in to this problem but cartos are easier for me to work with. Unfortunately, I haven't found any that can go the distance with these two juices.
I will say that the flavor and vapor production of the 801 fusions is pretty impressive. As you know, I bought quite a few more after my first order.
As for the CE2s, they're not any better. They can't wick the juices well enough to be effective. I've been a part of the syringe mod movement and even those can't go the distance.
It looks like my only options are to clean cartos (I do it all the time but I hate it), throw them away when they go bad and start fresh (do-able but certainly not ideal) or stick to attys (which is probably my last choice).
At the end of the day, I'm right back where I started. I've got two juices that I really enjoy and helped me finally kick my analog habit but my favorite way to experience them is a pain-in-the-.... I guess I'm just S.O.L. for now, ha-ha.
After checking the website, the Golds say they are around 3.5 ohm. I didn't see a rating on the Platinums though.
That's sort of where I'm at to. lol I haven't had good luck with CE2's either but I'm going to try the clear CE2's you make and see how that goes.
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