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MagnusEunson

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John I too have seen fleeting moments of niceness from greenlover....I've also got a couple nasty pms from her. I don't think she's got it altogether I can't know that its my guess. What I do know is...

I just got a Dr. Drew vibe off of you there..... they're addicts and we shouldn't presume to know any of their mental states anymore than they should presume on you. I think that's where the line was drawn and crossed. It's ~my~ interpretation of what I'm reading that they are taking it personally while ECFers (as it were) are taking it pragmatically.

That doesn't make ECFers more right in this case. OK, yes it does.

However, what is increasingly being said in this thread really is going to be the only solace you/we'll get out of this. The moderators and power-users over there are addicts through and through and can't see past their own addictions. And, as we've speculated (and some over there have confirmed), they have battled / are battling other addictions.

As market forces prevail and the pv/mod market grows and ~especially~ because big pharma is waltzing into the field... as that all happens ECF will slowly outgrow the old guard. I firmly believe that. And that is why I'm hoping you'll nominate me for supreme chancell.. err.... wrong thread. -Magnus
 

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Luke warm water, throw polident tab in, soak atties for 10 minutes, pick them up and let the polident run through from both ends until you get steady stream instead of drips (you'll see funkiness coming out of them). Then rinse them with hot water, stuff a tissue up in there, blow it out into the tissue to get it as dry as possible, do dry burns until you see lots of orange (blowing into it in between to keep it cool) and don't hold the button for too long after you start seeing orange or you will pop it - esp inportant with the tank atties because of that stupid plate (it's hard to see the orange, but you'll see it glow on the sides and in the wick/piercing needle center) get as much orange as you can though because that means all the crap has burned off.

One thing to mention, I do this every few days. If you go too long, they'll get GUBAC (gunked up beyond all cleaning).
 

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I just got a Dr. Drew vibe off of you there..... they're addicts and we shouldn't presume to know any of their mental states anymore than they should presume on you. I think that's where the line was drawn and crossed. It's ~my~ interpretation of what I'm reading that they are taking it personally while ECFers (as it were) are taking it pragmatically.

That doesn't make ECFers more right in this case. OK, yes it does.

However, what is increasingly being said in this thread really is going to be the only solace you/we'll get out of this. The moderators and power-users over there are addicts through and through and can't see past their own addictions. And, as we've speculated (and some over there have confirmed), they have battled / are battling other addictions.

As market forces prevail and the pv/mod market grows and ~especially~ because big pharma is waltzing into the field... as that all happens ECF will slowly outgrow the old guard. I firmly believe that. And that is why I'm hoping you'll nominate me for supreme chancell.. err.... wrong thread. -Magnus

You're right I shouldn't try to psychoanalize people unforunately it seems to be in my very nature to do so.

If we nominate you are you going to disolve the senate?
 

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As market forces prevail and the pv/mod market grows and ~especially~ because big pharma is waltzing into the field... as that all happens ECF will slowly outgrow the old guard. I firmly believe that. And that is why I'm hoping you'll nominate me for supreme chancell.. err.... wrong thread. -Magnus

Stop trying to woo me with all that free market Austrian economics talk ;-) Ok Big Pharma and free-market don't exactly coexist like people and fish... yeah, anyway.
 

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Luke warm water, throw polident tab in, soak atties for 10 minutes, pick them up and let the polident run through from both ends until you get steady stream instead of drips (you'll see funkiness coming out of them). Then rinse them with hot water, stuff a tissue up in there, blow it out into the tissue to get it as dry as possible, do dry burns until you see lots of orange (blowing into it in between to keep it cool) and don't hold the button for too long after you start seeing orange or you will pop it - esp inportant with the tank atties because of that stupid plate (it's hard to see the orange, but you'll see it glow on the sides and in the wick/piercing needle center) get as much orange as you can though because that means all the crap has burned off.

One thing to mention, I do this every few days. If you go too long, they'll get GUBAC (gunked up beyond all cleaning).

Thanks Trbo. Polident here I come :)

EDIT: Polident - Not just for dentures anymore...
 
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Luke warm water, throw polident tab in, soak atties for 10 minutes, pick them up and let the polident run through from both ends until you get steady stream instead of drips (you'll see funkiness coming out of them). Then rinse them with hot water, stuff a tissue up in there, blow it out into the tissue to get it as dry as possible, do dry burns until you see lots of orange (blowing into it in between to keep it cool) and don't hold the button for too long after you start seeing orange or you will pop it - esp inportant with the tank atties because of that stupid plate (it's hard to see the orange, but you'll see it glow on the sides and in the wick/piercing needle center) get as much orange as you can though because that means all the crap has burned off.

One thing to mention, I do this every few days. If you go too long, they'll get GUBAC (gunked up beyond all cleaning).

I've had a lot of luck with the denture cleaner as well...
 

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I've had a lot of luck with the denture cleaner as well...

Talking about this brings up a good point... I am SOOO glad I found this place, even if I never posted a single thing here. Because of these boards, I learned everything I needed to know about using a PV. Had I not had these resources, I would have gotten frustrated any time I ran into a PV issue and either spent way too much money replacing atties, buying different PVs, buying crappy juice or just given up and gone back to smoking. I *AM* one of those people who didn't want to quit smoking because I enjoyed it, but I also did not want the ill effects to my health from it. Now I can enjoy it and breathe and sing and do all the things cigarettes kept me from doing while not *missing* the parts of smoking that I really really enjoyed. THANK YOU ECF! haha
 

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Talking about this brings up a good point... I am SOOO glad I found this place, even if I never posted a single thing here. Because of these boards, I learned everything I needed to know about using a PV. Had I not had these resources, I would have gotten frustrated any time I ran into a PV issue and either spent way too much money replacing atties, buying different PVs, buying crappy juice or just given up and gone back to smoking. I *AM* one of those people who didn't want to quit smoking because I enjoyed it, but I also did not want the ill effects to my health from it. Now I can enjoy it and breathe and sing and do all the things cigarettes kept me from doing while not *missing* the parts of smoking that I really really enjoyed. THANK YOU ECF! haha

Same here... I started with a Smoking Everywhere pos from the local mall. Although it definitely got me started into vaping, I would have been back to smoking in a week if I hadn't found ECF.

My daughter-in-law, who actually was the one who introduced me to it, had one also, but never embraced it or tried to get a better model. She stills smokes, and to this day is still convinced they're all crap.

Four other familiy members were so impressed by my success that they are all vapers now. Fortunately, I was able to introduce them to the better models to begin with.

My singing has improved, too... I'm not so sure others would agree with that though! :laugh:
 
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I just got a Dr. Drew vibe off of you there..... they're addicts and we shouldn't presume to know any of their mental states anymore than they should presume on you. I think that's where the line was drawn and crossed. It's ~my~ interpretation of what I'm reading that they are taking it personally while ECFers (as it were) are taking it pragmatically.

That doesn't make ECFers more right in this case. OK, yes it does.

However, what is increasingly being said in this thread really is going to be the only solace you/we'll get out of this. The moderators and power-users over there are addicts through and through and can't see past their own addictions. And, as we've speculated (and some over there have confirmed), they have battled / are battling other addictions.

As market forces prevail and the pv/mod market grows and ~especially~ because big pharma is waltzing into the field... as that all happens ECF will slowly outgrow the old guard. I firmly believe that. And that is why I'm hoping you'll nominate me for supreme chancell.. err.... wrong thread. -Magnus

why does magnus always make me dig out my dictionary? well thank goodness i got one online.
 

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Stop trying to woo me with all that free market Austrian economics talk ;-) Ok Big Pharma and free-market don't exactly coexist like people and fish... yeah, anyway.

Just for people who aren't on the same page as you and I are (and I do presume too much)...

By big pharma waltzing in I'm mean the attention it's going to bring ECF. With that said, remember when they do finally wade in to do everything you can to destroy them. Big pharma doesn't like freedom of choice or market economics.

And Young Miss, I wouldn't dare try to woo you.. if your fiance/boy missed with his first shot, I'm fairly confident ~you~ wouldn't. Either that or I'd get a tongue lashing so mentally crippling I'd move back to my 3rd-world birthplace. -Magnus
 

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Just for people who aren't on the same page as you and I are (and I do presume too much)...

By big pharma waltzing in I'm mean the attention it's going to bring ECF. With that said, remember when they do finally wade in to do everything you can to destroy them. Big pharma doesn't like freedom of choice or market economics.

And Young Miss, I wouldn't dare try to woo you.. if your fiance/boy missed with his first shot, I'm fairly confident ~you~ wouldn't. Either that or I'd get a tongue lashing so mentally crippling I'd move back to my 3rd-world birthplace. -Magnus

perhaps theres another organization i need to be looking into as well .. thanks for the tip
 
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