Big difference between a real Caravella and a $24 Caravella Chinese clone?

[Flt Simulation]

Looking around the forum, there is a thread that is more than 1,000 posts dedicated to the Caravella Mechanical mod. I obviously did not read that many of those 1,000+ posts, but I got the idea that all the Caravella's that people were posting photos of, were in fact real Caravella's, and not one of those $24 Caravella's you can buy from fasttech (at least, that's the impression I got).

Anyway, there ain't much to a Mechanical mod except for a stainless steel tube and a couple of end caps and a button to send the battery power up to the atomizer.

With that .... Is there really that much difference between a real Caravella and a $24 clone? Do the real ones work better than the clone?

How much does a real Caravella cost without the atty included (for folks that want to use there own addy, and not a Caravella supplied one)?

Thank's

 

[jarreddizzle]

Walking on thin ice with these questions.... you should know how to community feels about clones/fakes/counterfeits/knockoffs ... some are for and against.

 

[03FXDWG]

I'm not lucky enough to own an original Caravela and have been lusting after a clone but the difference is in the support of the original design & artistry. Some of the clones don't have the design etched onto them, some aren't the same color. The type of electrical contacts used in some are cheaper than the original or in a few cases--better than the original. Brass, copper, silver, even gold. Some metals conduct the charge from the battery better giving a better "hit".

The original Caravela, I believe: Caravela Mods » Caravela Mod

 

[Flt Simulation]

Well, I didn't want to step on anyone's feet with this thread ... I am new to vaping and just see a lot of people here buying various clones from companies such as FastTech. There is even a thread dealing with FastTech that is over 430 posts long as well as a "Show Me Your China Setups" thead that is real long too.

Again, I am not posting this to take sides ... I am new to vaping, and just wondered if the cost difference between a real Caravela or a real Nemesis and the cones of these models are worth the price difference.

Any idea as to what the cost is for a real Caravela (without the atty)?

I went to the Caravela website, and it had basically zero information about there Mods ... not even prices or specs. Caravela Mods

 

[Heavyrocker]

I think the ''original'' makers of 'Mods just make a certain number,say like a 1000,if ya dont get one for 200 bucks,your outta luck.

 

[crxess]

Walking on thin ice with these questions.... you should know how to community feels about clones/fakes/counterfeits/knockoffs ... some are for and against.

Op asked a simple and straight forward question.

Only thing required is straight and factual answers.

 

[emus]

Anyway, there ain't much to a Mechanical Mod except for a stainless steel tube and a couple of end caps and a button to send the battery power up to the atomizer.

Don't concur.

It must require some sort of rocket scientist to make a smooth tight switch judging from the pile of tube mods I'm sitting on. If you don't mind a sloppy, crunchy or clicky switch and random QC issues then clones may be for you. If I had a little dough I would buy the real thing. Then maybe I would get a proper switch and avoid some QC issues.

If my mods were stolen. My options are 6 almost there clones vs one real good mod; I'd pick the one good mod.
6 old cars vs one brand new car; I'd pick the new one.
If you are outta cash you could buy one cheap mod and call it a day.

 

[Blind Squirrel]

It must require some sort of rocket scientist to make a smooth tight switch judging from the pile of tube mods I'm sitting on. If you don't mind a sloppy, crunchy or clicky switch and random QC issues then clones may be for you. If I had a little dough I would buy the real thing. Then maybe I would get a proper switch and avoid some QC issues.

+1 this.

I purchased a Nemesis clone from a local shop and had to go through 3 to get one that worked. Within a week the button started failing on me, and I'm glad it did. I was feeling guilty about buying a counterfeit of an available mod (that's what a clone is, right?) As far as a Caravela is concerned, I don't think they are producing mods anymore. I wouldn't feel guilty about buying a reproduction of a mod that the original manufacturer isn't making anymore.

I recently bought a higher end mod (JD Tech Stingray) and am totally amazed at how much of a difference there is. Well worth the $200 price tag IMO, and still cheaper than smoking.

 

[Royaldrunker]

Walking on thin ice with these questions.... you should know how to community feels about clones/fakes/counterfeits/knockoffs ... some are for and against.

Opinions vary and so do bankrolls..
Its s simple question which deserves an
Honest answer not criticism..

Depends on the mod chi you, nemesis, m16, king mods have been proven to hit better than the originals..due to contacts etc..is it worth the extra $$$. Depends if your a collector.. Will you notice performance differences.. Probably minimal. Its all on what makes you feel good..

 

[Flt Simulation]

... is it worth the extra $$$. Depends if your a collector .. Will you notice performance differences .. Probably minimal. Its all on what makes you feel good

You make a good point.

Do I need a new Corvette? ... Not really, Not at all ... but it makes me feel good

As far as these original and expensive Mods like the Caravela; It would really make me feel good to have one, but in this instance, I just can't see paying a lot of money for a fancy tubular Mod, [if] a cheap Chinese fake might work almost as good, and look pretty close to the original from a few feet away.

I still would like to have the original if there was not such a long waiting list, and my wife wouldn't find out how much cash I dumped on it.

oh well ... Hello FastTech

 

[emus]

Opinions vary and so do bankrolls..
Its s simple question which deserves an
Honest answer not criticism..

Depends on the mod chi you, nemesis, m16, king mods have been proven to hit better than the originals..due to contacts etc..is it worth the extra $$$. Depends if your a collector.. Will you notice performance differences.. Probably minimal. Its all on what makes you feel good..

You won't likely notice 0.1v voltage drop difference. Get that much variance clean vs dirty threads. Brand new mods with sharp threads seem to get slightly better volt drop numbers than a seasoned mod w/ rounded threads and a slight oxidation layer.

You may notice a difference in sharp button edges, loose body threads and loose sticky switch. If the cloners would up their game a notch they'd be there.

 

[floridaBMW]

The original is just that, made from Pedro. I don't understand why people say "it's just a battery tube". I mean wow really?! Everybody knows that, no? Your buying an ecig mod that was created and designed by Pedro/Caravela. U, not me decides wether it's worth it.

Ken


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[emus]

The original is just that, made from Pedro. I don't understand why people say "it's just a battery tube". I mean wow really?! Everybody knows that, no? Your buying an ecig mod that was created and designed by Pedro/Caravela. U, not me decides wether it's worth it.

Ken



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It is easy to design a loosey goosey switch with high voltage drop or a crunchy tight switch with low voltage drop. Not easy to design and mass produce cheap proper switch. A good mech mod is more complicated that some give credit. A lesser mech mod will likely get the job done if not picky.

 

[Blind Squirrel]

Hehe just to re-remind me why I shelved my Nemeis clone, I pulled it out and fiddled to get it working again. Didn't take too long but man that button feels like crap. Always catching and wobbly. Made me love my Stingray even more.

 

[Royaldrunker]

Hehe just to re-remind me why I shelved my Nemeis clone, I pulled it out and fiddled to get it working again. Didn't take too long but man that button feels like crap. Always catching and wobbly. Made me love my Stingray even more.

Yes ive been eyeing the stingray for a bit... Only reason is they took the nemesis chi and a few other mods original design.. Re switch and made it better.. Im thinkin im still liking the gp paps

 

[WarHawk-AVG]

Don't own a "authentic"
I do own a clone from FT

Had problems out of the gate, the 510 connector on mine at least wasn't tapped right, had a bur. Had to buy a 7x.5mm tap and clean it up (boogered the hell out of the top cap but FT is sending me a replacement [no questions asked, didn't even ask me to send the original back to them]) another issue is the center positive pin is too long and/or the tubes themselves are 3-4mm too short! I ended up grinding down my center pin with a rotary tool and tapering it, working good now but only if I play with it heavily to get the battery adjusted just right (I run a 18500 w/ kick)

I do know the 18500 tube will NOT kick with a button top 18350, battery is so far out the end cap threads won't even catch (his is why I am thinking the tubes are too short)

This is my take, and I was able to get it operating with minimal issue but for most people they wouldn't have gone to the lengths I did to get it working. Your Mileage May Vary YMMV

 

[Racehorse]

If you don't mind a sloppy, crunchy or clicky switch and random QC issues then clones may be for you. If I had a little dough I would buy the real thing. Then maybe I would get a proper switch and avoid some QC issues.

It's sort of the difference between fake turquoise and real "indian pawn" turquoise. One is blue and looks sort of like a stone, the other is real and has all the patina and beauty of something only made by mother nature.

I myself prefer smooth threads, and nicely engineered things and yes, would rather have one nice mod than 5 squeeky ones that will soon have stripped threads, etc.

There really isn't anything wrong with either one. It's a matter of preference.

I have never bought anything from Fasttech, but somebody just sent me a "clone" ego, and after having used genuine Joyetech for over a year, the difference was just so obvious to me. I gave the clones away. They will work, but not in the smooth way I am used to

 

[illitirit]

i have 2 nemesis clones, and a real nemesis. The nemesis clones are absolute winners. They are so good that it makes me feel like I have been robbed by having and paid for a real nemesis. 25$ clone from fasttech vs 200$ real, yet same performance.


Same goes for kayfuns. My real kayfun lite + vs EHPRO kayfun lite + clone. If anything, the clone is better. The real one whistles while the clone does not. But they perform identical. 20$ clone from fasttech vs $100 real deal. clone wins again.


I dont give a hoot about whether clones are ethical or whatnot. I am not financially in the position to just buy the real deal of everything that I want. If i was, then yes, my opinion would probably change, but I speak with my wallet. Long live clones.

 

[Heavyrocker]

Ive seen a video where the Poldiac clone from Vape Royality falls apart if dropped,the threads are too short at the top 18650 tube.The clone from FT has longer threads.

Poldiac Clone Mod Review & the issue with the first one I bought from VapeRoyalty - YouTube

 

[Bad Ninja]

Looking around the forum, there is a thread that is more than 1,000 posts dedicated to the Caravella Mechanical Mod. I obviously did not read that many of those 1,000+ posts, but I got the idea that all the Caravella's that people were posting photos of, were in fact real Caravella's, and not one of those $24 Caravella's you can buy from FastTech (at least, that's the impression I got).

Anyway, there ain't much to a Mechanical Mod except for a stainless steel tube and a couple of end caps and a button to send the battery power up to the atomizer.

With that .... Is there really that much difference between a real Caravella and a $24 clone? Do the real ones work better than the clone?

How much does a real Caravella cost without the atty included (for folks that want to use there own addy, and not a Caravella supplied one)?

Thank's

The biggest difference is that the clones are actually available to purchase.
(J/k....sorta)

Clones do not hurt Pedro in any way.

Caravelas are sold out before they become available.
Not a single Caravela sits on a shelf. Pedro sells 100% of his inventory.
That's as good as it gets.

Caravela clones hurt flippers, who sell used Caravelas for more than the new ones cost.



I have no idea about the original.
The clone, isn't bad
Smooth threads, better built locking ring than most, smooth button and Decent spring
The center pin is long, and leaves a gap with button top batteries.
Looks fantastic, feels sleek and clean in the hand.