Big Tobacco companies making its move in the E-cig industry.

[immortality]

I have recently read that two BT companies are moving forward and seem to be trying to cash in on the E-cig phenomenon.

Reynold American Inc.
Camel maker plans big e-cigarette push - CBS News
Reynolds believes its updated electronic cigarette "delivers on what smokers want," by addressing those concerns, Cordisco said.

Phillip Morris Camel and Marlbaro maker.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_162-57581401/marlboro-maker-altria-to-jump-into-e-cigarettes/

I believe that the e-juice made by the BT companies will not only use the original 4 ingredients such as Propylene Glycol (PG), Vegetable Glycerin (VG), Food flavoring, and Nicotine diluted in VG or PG based but add to it and not inform the consumer what has been added. I don't believe that they will use the same ingrediants that the avg joe can mix in his house. Solely for profit gains its exclusive power. The e-juice today with just the four ingredients yet fairly new has had flying color positive studies/reviews on the cellular level and the increasing rate of quitting traditional cigarettes to where the FDA and other private study groups have had to create questioners/call centers to report any e-cigarette adverse affects.

What are your opinions on this and will you buy BT e-juice?

 

[gthompson]

Big Tobacco has been in the e-cig business for a while now. See Blu for one.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

We can only wait and see what they produce and then make an informed decision. Given their track record, it's fairly hard to trust them on any issue, other than their search for continued profits. That you can count on. Relying on them for accurate information, healthy alternatives, etc. is like thinking a snake will never bite you, a dog will never bark, and a cat will never jump on furniture.

 

[immortality]

Right i have seen that commercial. At wal-mart the other day i easily convinced a guy to not buy the Blu e-cig and buy a personal vapor. I think BT will recognize the power of flavor selection/ variable volt devices, and variable nic levels etc. I'm sure BT will pick up on that real soon. Will this affect us vapors directly or indirectly? And if BT got more involved wouldn't that push FDA to label an e-cig a tabacco device eliminating Online sales?

 

[soba1]

Big Tobacco has been in the e-cig business for a while now. See Blu for one.

It works for some but to me blu sucks

 

[immortality]

Yea at this time BT e-cigs are not very versatile or appealing to it's users. Does anyone know the ingredients in the Blu e-cig? I'm sure it's diff from what we are vaping no doubt.

 

[gthompson]

Blu juice is made by Johnson Creek.

 

[gthompson]

It works for some but to me blu sucks

I wasn't recommending it.

 

[soba1]

U know what would make things really sticky for big tobacco. If the small juice makers would start putting poor mans patents on their juices. Writing down their ingredients and send it registered mail to themselves.....;-)

 

[gthompson]

Right i have seen that commercial. At wal-mart the other day i easily convinced a guy to not buy the Blu e-cig and buy a personal vapor. I think BT will recognize the power of flavor selection/ variable volt devices, and variable nic levels etc. I'm sure BT will pick up on that real soon. Will this affect us vapors directly or indirectly? And if BT got more involved wouldn't that push FDA to label an e-cig a tabacco device eliminating Online sales?

Big Tobacco's business model doesn't fit any of that. They need you coming back for more, and often.

 

[immortality]

Thanks gthompson!! They are a reputable company. I just hope BT won't make it difficult for mom and pop e-liq mixologist/vendors and try to become a wal-mart like tyrant in producing e-juice.

 

[gthompson]

BT is already trying to get rid of the Mom and Pops.

 

[immortality]

Big Tobacco's business model doesn't fit any of that. They need you coming back for more, and often.

Right they do need us coming back for big profit, but the vaping industry appears like it is moving away from the simplistic analog e-cig. I know the Blu e-cig is like re-inventing the wheel cause its not first of it's kind in function. I'm sure they will change antics cause personal vapes seem to be the evolution of the Blu e-cig in such a short amount of time. Your thoughts?

 

[gthompson]

Reynolds' Launches Vuse in Colorado - Analyst Blog

Legislation News

 

[immortality]

BT is already trying to get rid of the Mom and Pops.

As a store front owner i am seeing that they are seeking avenues. For on i have not intention on carrying the Blu e-cig. Seems dated to me already. What i'm asking is will people trust them and how can they capitalize on something that seem to be working with outstanding results currently.

 

[immortality]

The Vuse is like the Blu. Personal vapors as you know offer more. Vuse will just compete with the Blu due to similar analog/ cartridge at (at wal-mart) style and nothing more. Agree?

 

[soba1]

I wasn't recommending it.

Oh for sure I know u weren't........;-)

 

[soba1]

The Vuse is like the Blu. Personal vapors as you know offer more. Vuse will just compete with the Blu due to similar analog/ cartridge at (at wal-mart) style and nothing more. Agree?

People use blu because they know of nothing else. Once they discover vaping, it's game on.

 

[zoiDman]

... I'm sure BT will pick up on that real soon. Will this affect us vapors directly or indirectly? And if BT got more involved wouldn't that push FDA to label an e-cig a tabacco device eliminating Online sales?

Real Soon? It has Already Begun.

 

[zoiDman]

U know what would make things really sticky for big tobacco. If the small juice makers would start putting poor mans patents on their juices. Writing down their ingredients and send it registered mail to themselves.....;-)

I Don't believe that Ingredient Proportions can be Patented.