Ok, I think I'm ready to do this. My eGo has made me realize the value of a good system, but I know everyone talks Provari. Where do I buy it? What should I look out for (too many snake-oil salesmen in this unregulated industry!)? Don't want to spend $150 on a fake/refurb/outdated unit. Will my eGo stuff be compatible or do I need to buy different cartos/tanks? Point me in the right direction. There ain't a lot of solid info out there on this thing.
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hi Artax, before you buy any pv, make sure it is what you want. Not all of us need vv, others do. Yes I know many will disagree with what I have said, but you don't need a jackhammer to hang a picture.
Thats fairly easy, buy it direct from provape on their website. Any 510 connector will do. Don't know your specific accessories but I would recommend boge 2.2 carts if that's what you're into. Also a simple tank. Of course 2.2 won't let you max the limits on it but that's another discussion and personal pref. Google provari. I haven't seen other places to buy it.
The Provari will wash your dog and cook your breakfast. It will fill it's own cartomizer and make cheap juice taste like your favorite cigarette. If you buy anything else, you are throwing your money down the toilet. Everything else is garbage and snake-oil. The Provari will cure your asthma and prostate cancer. It will withstand a 20 ton hydraulic press and work in 800 feet of water. The first man on the moon brought a Provari with him.
O.K. That about covers it.
Provape.com
O.K. That about covers it.
Provape.com
If it could get my 14 year old to take out the garbage, that would be truly amazing! 
OP, you could definately do worse than a Provari. As others have said, check out Provape. Don't forget batteries and a charger. Pretty much any 510 cartomizer/ clearomizer/ whatevamizer (I made that last one up) will work fine. Best of luck man.
OP, you could definately do worse than a Provari. As others have said, check out Provape. Don't forget batteries and a charger. Pretty much any 510 cartomizer/ clearomizer/ whatevamizer (I made that last one up) will work fine. Best of luck man.I was really looking for something to cook my dog and wash my breakfast, but I guess it'll do.
Cool, thanks guys. Yeah the eGo is not quite powerful enough for me. I would smoke the analogs about 2x as fast as others, so I need more oomph. Glads all the 510 stuff will work and I don't need to look for a ton of other crap too, since I've been working down that road already for the last few months. Wish I had just done this off the bat, but it's a lot to spend when you don't know what the heck you're looking for.
Any suggestions on regular/mini? The full size seems HUGE, like an aluminum cruller.
Cool, thanks guys. Yeah the eGo is not quite powerful enough for me. I would smoke the analogs about 2x as fast as others, so I need more oomph. Glads all the 510 stuff will work and I don't need to look for a ton of other crap too, since I've been working down that road already for the last few months. Wish I had just done this off the bat, but it's a lot to spend when you don't know what the heck you're looking for.
Any suggestions on regular/mini? The full size seems HUGE, like an aluminum cruller.
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They're basically the same, performance-wise. The smaller one only washes terriers and cooks continental breakfasts however.
It depends on what kind of battery life between charges you're looking for and how you feel about toting around a heavier, bulkier PV. How and where you use them will be the determining factor in which one you choose. Oh, and how big your dog is.
It depends on what kind of battery life between charges you're looking for and how you feel about toting around a heavier, bulkier PV. How and where you use them will be the determining factor in which one you choose. Oh, and how big your dog is.
I've heard Provari's are also working wonders on solving world hunger. Provape will even probably bring out a hybrid model...which uses a combination of a watch battery and a hand crank. And just like anything else that's hybrid powered, it won't look very suave, but it will help solve the energy crisis...and that, in and of itself, IS suave these days.
Also... Ted Kaczynski endorses Provari. He won't use anything less than a Provari to build his pipe bombs with. He said they're made of a special material called "unobtanium", and he can use the same Provari 50 times before having to replace an end cap. Even ol' Ted is trying to be eco-friendly. "Just because I'm killing people, doesn't mean I have to kill mother earth in the process". Ironically, Provape sends Ted a carton of smokes to his cell every week for his endorsement.
Too much?
By "continental breakfast" you mean bowls of cereal, bagels, and donuts. At least...that's what most hotels think a continental breakfast is.
You must go to less classier hotels than me. A "continental breakfast" is a Danish and a glass of orange juice. What you described is an American style "Buffet breakfast".
Hey... Just because they also charge by the hour doesn't make them any less classy...just easier on the wallet for those that don't need to stay the entire night.
The mini is 3.48" with the 18350 battery and 3.98" with the 18490 battery and extension cap.
The Provari V2 is 4.13" with the 18500 batery and 4.6" with the 18650 battery.
They are both the same diameter and the same price. So I think it all comes down to how long a battery life you want.
For me personally, the added battery life between the smallest at 3.98" and the largest at 4.6" was worth the added half inch.
Alot of people, once they get one in their hands, have reported that they thought it was going to be bigger than it actually was.
It's hard to tell just by looking at a picture. The diameter is alittle smaller than a "C" cell battery BTW.
The Provari V2 is 4.13" with the 18500 batery and 4.6" with the 18650 battery.
They are both the same diameter and the same price. So I think it all comes down to how long a battery life you want.
For me personally, the added battery life between the smallest at 3.98" and the largest at 4.6" was worth the added half inch.
Alot of people, once they get one in their hands, have reported that they thought it was going to be bigger than it actually was.
It's hard to tell just by looking at a picture. The diameter is alittle smaller than a "C" cell battery BTW.
I hate to say it, but you know it's true: grapes, sour...
While I gladly accept that the ProVari is not the absolute single best device for anybody ever, this is getting dumb. ProVari is an excellent PV, bordering on perfect. The build quality, the performance, reliability and ease of use are matched by few others, and as far as price - it is cheaper than a lot of other high end APVs. It sits on the border between mass produced and small series so there's arguments to be made about the price point back and forth but who cares: the ownership experience is fantastic and that's all that matters.
See - there are other good VV devices, and each has something specific to offer. The mix of features of the ProVari is not found elsewhere. Hence, you have a choice, and a lot of people chose the ProVari. True enough, some just get it because it "sounds" like it's the only game in town which is probably not correct. But if you know what it is, and if you want great performance and a luxury feel - well, go for it and - yes - don't waste money "dipping your toes" with other devices.
However, I'll try to look at some alternatives as objectively as I can:
Going down the ladder - the Darwin has better performance and offers the more attractive concept of variable power instead of voltage. It stands in a class of its own, no debate about it. That's cool if you can get over the form factor and the impossibility of actually buying one. Other disadvantage - built in battery that you can't swap out.
The Buzz / Infinity are good and stable and reliable and powerful, but they use stacked batteries (which is not a huge deal given all their protection features). The concept is that instead of boosting one battery to the required voltage, it trims down the double voltage of two batteries linked in series. That has the advantage of a longer battery life, and the disadvantage of you having to always charge batteries in sets and make sure they have the same charge at all times. And they look... differently. I find them very ugly, some find them beautiful - the point is looks matter in some way.
Mechanical mod + the Kick - the greatest advantage is that you get an APV that will function on its own indefinitely and will be variable power for as long as the Kick kicks. The other advantage is that you get to choose whatever looks you want. The downside - limited power with the Kick and perhaps price: if you go all out on a fantastic mod, then add the price of the Kick you may end up spending more than on a ProVari. Another choice is Silver Bullet + Kick which is definitely attractive; although not mechanical, the Silver Bullet has an unstained track record of reliability and longevity, so there.
VV Reo / Woodvil - fine looking, awesome performing bottom feeder APVs with the circuitry found in Buzz / Infinity. If you already use and like bottom feeders then it's a no brainer. If not - it's a little tricky to switch vaping paradigms completely only for the variable voltage. They are also difficult to get a hold of.
VMax - unless you have some anti-China bias and you can get over the shameless way in which they copied ProVari's looks and Buzz's circuitry in their device it's probably an attractive choice. Reviewers pointed out that the supplied voltage doesn't match the displayed one, which is not a problem once you're aware of it. It is also a stacked battery design. The other annoyance is that it resets when you swap batteries, and it resets to a high voltage so you have to be on your toes or you might burn your cartos.
LavaTube (by any other name) - it's sort of cheap, and it feels and looks that way even in the new shiny stainless steel version. In any event, it seems the newest version performs well compared to the old, and maybe there are fewer reports of flimsiness and unreliability. It's not a bad device, overall, but don't expect the same feeling of luxury vaping you'll get from higher end devices.
VVPV - another Buzz/Inifinity derivation, this time a top feeder. If you can ignore the Borgish look with the plastic tube wrapped around the atomizer, it's an interesting proposition as well. Looking at the classifieds, it seems there are major issues with build quality, though.
SVR / Evo - not really variable voltage (it has like three settings). I don't know much about this one - it looks cool enough, but there have been some QC concerns in the past. It has some nice features, but I for one like being able to tweak the voltage in small increments rather than having a few presents. Remember that power depends on voltage squared, so small changes in voltage make for large effects.
Did I forget anything important?
Sure - you can get similar results with cheaper devices. Sure - some people don't feel they need a ProVari or even variable or regulated voltage. It's a world of personal preferences.
There is a difference between signaling that some people sometimes push ProVari regardless of the OP's question, intentions, desires or budget, and there's a whole different thing to imply that this massively successful PV is all hype.
Anyhow, regarding size - the ProVari standard, with 18650 extension cap is about as long as an iPhone and slimmer than a quarter - hope it helps you gauge it.
While I gladly accept that the ProVari is not the absolute single best device for anybody ever, this is getting dumb. ProVari is an excellent PV, bordering on perfect. The build quality, the performance, reliability and ease of use are matched by few others, and as far as price - it is cheaper than a lot of other high end APVs. It sits on the border between mass produced and small series so there's arguments to be made about the price point back and forth but who cares: the ownership experience is fantastic and that's all that matters.
See - there are other good VV devices, and each has something specific to offer. The mix of features of the ProVari is not found elsewhere. Hence, you have a choice, and a lot of people chose the ProVari. True enough, some just get it because it "sounds" like it's the only game in town which is probably not correct. But if you know what it is, and if you want great performance and a luxury feel - well, go for it and - yes - don't waste money "dipping your toes" with other devices.
However, I'll try to look at some alternatives as objectively as I can:
Going down the ladder - the Darwin has better performance and offers the more attractive concept of variable power instead of voltage. It stands in a class of its own, no debate about it. That's cool if you can get over the form factor and the impossibility of actually buying one. Other disadvantage - built in battery that you can't swap out.
The Buzz / Infinity are good and stable and reliable and powerful, but they use stacked batteries (which is not a huge deal given all their protection features). The concept is that instead of boosting one battery to the required voltage, it trims down the double voltage of two batteries linked in series. That has the advantage of a longer battery life, and the disadvantage of you having to always charge batteries in sets and make sure they have the same charge at all times. And they look... differently. I find them very ugly, some find them beautiful - the point is looks matter in some way.
Mechanical mod + the Kick - the greatest advantage is that you get an APV that will function on its own indefinitely and will be variable power for as long as the Kick kicks. The other advantage is that you get to choose whatever looks you want. The downside - limited power with the Kick and perhaps price: if you go all out on a fantastic mod, then add the price of the Kick you may end up spending more than on a ProVari. Another choice is Silver Bullet + Kick which is definitely attractive; although not mechanical, the Silver Bullet has an unstained track record of reliability and longevity, so there.
VV Reo / Woodvil - fine looking, awesome performing bottom feeder APVs with the circuitry found in Buzz / Infinity. If you already use and like bottom feeders then it's a no brainer. If not - it's a little tricky to switch vaping paradigms completely only for the variable voltage. They are also difficult to get a hold of.
VMax - unless you have some anti-China bias and you can get over the shameless way in which they copied ProVari's looks and Buzz's circuitry in their device it's probably an attractive choice. Reviewers pointed out that the supplied voltage doesn't match the displayed one, which is not a problem once you're aware of it. It is also a stacked battery design. The other annoyance is that it resets when you swap batteries, and it resets to a high voltage so you have to be on your toes or you might burn your cartos.
LavaTube (by any other name) - it's sort of cheap, and it feels and looks that way even in the new shiny stainless steel version. In any event, it seems the newest version performs well compared to the old, and maybe there are fewer reports of flimsiness and unreliability. It's not a bad device, overall, but don't expect the same feeling of luxury vaping you'll get from higher end devices.
VVPV - another Buzz/Inifinity derivation, this time a top feeder. If you can ignore the Borgish look with the plastic tube wrapped around the atomizer, it's an interesting proposition as well. Looking at the classifieds, it seems there are major issues with build quality, though.
SVR / Evo - not really variable voltage (it has like three settings). I don't know much about this one - it looks cool enough, but there have been some QC concerns in the past. It has some nice features, but I for one like being able to tweak the voltage in small increments rather than having a few presents. Remember that power depends on voltage squared, so small changes in voltage make for large effects.
Did I forget anything important?
Sure - you can get similar results with cheaper devices. Sure - some people don't feel they need a ProVari or even variable or regulated voltage. It's a world of personal preferences.
There is a difference between signaling that some people sometimes push ProVari regardless of the OP's question, intentions, desires or budget, and there's a whole different thing to imply that this massively successful PV is all hype.
Anyhow, regarding size - the ProVari standard, with 18650 extension cap is about as long as an iPhone and slimmer than a quarter - hope it helps you gauge it.
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Actually, the regular size (with optional extended cap) is about half an inch shorter than a Lavatube (which is a more economical VV option). I have both, and enjoy using both.
Did anyone mention an eGo-to-510 adapter? An ego battery will be able to use any 510 atty/carto; but you will need an adapter to use eGo atties/cartos on a non eGo battery.
I agree with that also you might want to try something like the ego-C or other ego cartomizers so you would need the adaptor .
I searched and searched.........and came out with Provari as my main device Never sorry about it Also I use a mini LT or a Lil Sis from ken's box mods when I want to be on the run and stealth vape.......good luck in your quest +1 on a 510-510 shorty adapter.....have em at madvapes......if you're gonna use ego tanks or whatever on the Provari
Never sorry about it Also I use a mini LT or a Lil Sis from ken's box mods when I want to be on the run and stealth vape.......good luck in your quest +1 on a 510-510 shorty adapter.....have em at madvapes......if you're gonna use ego tanks or whatever on the Provari
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