Bleeding gums anyone?

[Konalady]

I've been vaping for a month, and my gums are now bleeding every time I brush my teeth, was never a problem before... I found an old thread about this but it didn't help much... anyone know if this is a function of quitting analogs, or a side affect of vaping? I'd appreciate any information! Mahalo!

 

[Spazmelda]

I found this when I googled 'quit smoking bleeding gums':

As for gum bleeding, it is not unusual to be a bit overzealous and brush too much but also be aware that your gums are experiencing some rather amazing healing all their own and, surprisingly, it is normal for the ex-smoker's gums to be more prone to bleeding during recovery, not less. Nicotine constricts blood vessels diminishing blood flow, which, according to a January 2003 study, may account for smokers having thicker gum tissues. According to an April 2004 study, gingival (gum) blood flow rate was "significantly higher at 3 days" and within 5 days the liquid sticky plasma proteins normally released by healthy gums (gingival crevicular fluid) had significantly increased and within 2 weeks were comparable to those of non-smokers. But if it takes a bit of bleeding to begin gradually reversing the risk of experiencing 240% greater tooth loss than a non-smoker then so be it. If at all concerned give your dentist a quick call.

from: WhyQuit - Nicotine Withdrawal and Recovery Symptoms

Although we are still getting nicotene, from what I've read it might be at lower levels that what we used to get, so I guess this could explain it.

 

[DebW]

I experienced the same thing about a month after I started vaping. Whether it was caused by quitting the analogs or vaping, I'm not sure. All I know was that the bleeding was very mild and it didn't last long. Maybe two days.

 

[P1NkY]

Can't help ya there; my gums have ALWAYS bled when I brush (what's left of) my teeth! *sighs*

 

[calico21]

I found this when I googled 'quit smoking bleeding gums':



from: WhyQuit - Nicotine Withdrawal and Recovery Symptoms

Although we are still getting nicotene, from what I've read it might be at lower levels that what we used to get, so I guess this could explain it.

This, yes I have it. I had read that the increase in blood flow to the gum tissue is the cause so it didn't bug me.

 

[Konalady]

That is encouraging, thanks. I've had some major bleeding and I hope it goes away. I am not tempted to go back to analogs but the the changes in my mouth have been alarming!

 

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[classwife]

This might help answer some questions :

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...hen-quitting-tobacco-changing-ecigarette.html

 

[Konalady]

This, yes I have it. I had read that the increase in blood flow to the gum tissue is the cause so it didn't bug me.

I'm, down to 4 to 0 nic juices, so maybe that's the problem... didn't know nic was related to gum health??? Thanks for the link!

 

[calico21]

Thank spaz, he /she posted it before I could find it.

 

[Konalady]

Thank you, Classwife, appreciate the link. I hate to think that vaping is responsible for my dental problems!

This might help answer some questions :

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...hen-quitting-tobacco-changing-ecigarette.html

 

[dormouse]

Always good to consult your dentist. You could have gum disease.

BUT - bleeding gums are a KNOWN side effect of nicotine. If you are using excessive nicotine, consider a lower level. If you are using 100% PG juices try juices with some VG (PG lets through the MOST flavor, Th and irritation of nicotine). I use 20% VG in cartos. Tanks and reservoir cartos like 20-30% VG and may work with thinner 50/50 juices. Try stuffing type cartomizers and put a drip tip on the end instead of the white endcap - you will probably vape with that further in your mouth and the nicotine vapor will be a wider less-concentrated stream. Drink plenty of fluids. Don't vape in a messy way that get juice in your mouth - carts suck and can dump juice in your mouth. Cartomizers need to be cleaned up when you add juice to them. If you are dripping, blow across the opening lightly to help the liquid go ddown (only on sealed manual batteries too).

When I started vaping I was bringing the vapor in through a cart's tiny hole right onto my gums. Just not good. I got bleeding gums too.

 

[Konalady]

Thanks dormouse, I always appreciate your advice. The bleeding has pretty much stopped now, I think it was a function of lowering the nic level since I'm down to 4-0 juices now. However, I did start with the cart's tiny hole, quickly changed to cartomizers & drip tips. I love your tip about bringing it further into the mouth, it makes a lot of sense to bypass the gums entirely and is a lot better tasting. I think I've been doing this since I got the drip tips, but I'll be more aware of it now. After years of having that analog between your lips, it's just a habit modification that's not difficult to do. Mahalo!

 

[daggit2005]

Can't help ya there; my gums have ALWAYS bled when I brush (what's left of) my teeth! *sighs*

same here buddy.

my gum bleeding did get worse when i steped from 24mg to 16mg nic

 

[ch33s3mast3r]

I've been vaping for a month, and my gums are now bleeding every time I brush my teeth, was never a problem before... I found an old thread about this but it didn't help much... anyone know if this is a function of quitting analogs, or a side affect of vaping? I'd appreciate any information! Mahalo!

This could be a withdrawal symptom caused by one of the other several thousand chemicals in tobacco smoke. Should stop within a month or two

 

[benetay]

A visit to the dentist will be great, you can't go very wrong that way.

Cheers!

 

[SteakHause]

I have been vaping for 9 months. I start heavy and have only gotten heavier. I never had any bleeding but perhaps you aren't getting the nic your body is used to. I started off on 25mg nic and gradually lowered. I'm at 11 now.

 

[benetay]

I went to the dentist before i quit analogs, the dentist say i have very weak gums from smoking 10 years PAD. After i switch to vaping, the first thing i did was to go to the dentist, and the rest is history!

Cheers!

 

[ScottinSoCal]

Yeah, my dentist told me that smoking was most of the reason I had as many tooth/gum problems as I did. Smoking makes your gums recede, exposes the soft part of the tooth, and that makes cavities more likely. It increases the pocket depth around your teeth, which makes getting food stuck in there more likely, which (again) increases the chance of cavities. When I quit smoking (30 years of 1.5 PAD) my gums bled for a while - my dentist said the blood flow was returning and my gums were healing. Now they look better than they have in years, and my measured pocket depth has gone way down, although they still show more of the base of the tooth than they should. I'm hopeful that eventually goes away, but I may have done too much damage over the years from the cigarettes.

 

[luckyluciano]

I've been vaping for a month, and my gums are now bleeding every time I brush my teeth, was never a problem before... I found an old thread about this but it didn't help much... anyone know if this is a function of quitting analogs, or a side affect of vaping? I'd appreciate any information! Mahalo!

It has nothing to do with The Vape But your Diet. Try taking cod or some sort of fish oil tablets. give it two weeks you will be fine