Blu... Just have to vent.

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StarsAndBars

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Wolferizer, I don't want to make you feel bad in any way but for the life of me, I cannot see how anyone who found this forum would even contemplate buying a blu cig. Not in this day and age where information is readily available, there are literally hundreds of things better and cheaper not to mention the countless bad reviews easily found if just googled them.

I would get my credit card company to reverse the charges and refuse shipment when and if it arrives. At the very minimum get yourself a Hello016 kit or something with a big battery that is 510 compatible then get some 510 soft tipped cartomizers, some juice and vape till your hearts content.

Aloha, Keith

Do yourself a big favor, and listen to this guy. Tell your friends also.

When I say Blu is inferior, it is an opinion based on what I have seen for myself. I started with Blu, went back to smoking, So did my wife, so did a friend of hers, so did 2 guys I work with. I am not saying run out and get a mod or nothing (even though deep down I really want to), I'm just saying you have already made a decision to give vaping a try right? When you try something new, it is advisable to not start by using the worst case scenario that 'new thing' has to offer. If you do that, you aren't truly getting a fair representation. I guess all I'm saying is, out of 5 people I know, all five either went back to smoking, or quickly got a quality device. Oh yeh, actually I gave my Blu stuff to a girl I know who is trying to quit smoking.

Anyone care to guess how it is going? Statistics don't lie.
 
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Do yourself a big favor, and listen to this guy. Tell your friends also.

But I'm another one that likes Blu. As I wrote in my post before this, why can't I just enjoy my Blu? It's almost a bad word to say on this forum and it should not be that way. I readily accept that I'll be buying a 501, etc. etc. as I mentioned in my previous post, but I'll always love my Blu. It's what got me, personally, off analogs and I personally enjoy it. Sure I'm in the minority. I've always gone for the underdog teams in sports for instance. That's just me. Interesting thing is, my Blu PV works for me - my needs. People should be ok with that. If I ever ask a question about cleaning attys on my Blu for instance, like I did to Cassie, she was kind enough to answer without telling me to dump a product I like. That's real help. Just my 2 cents.

When Magus86 wrote this below, I think he's right, IMHO.

"I think it all depends on our level of commitment and how willing we are to feed our addiction. Some people want to make a hobby/lifestyle out of this, others simply want something simple to keep cigs out of their mouths.After doing this for about a month I'm realizing that I'm creating a new addiction for myself, I'm putting infinitely more time and money into vaping than I ever put into smoking cigarettes. I think that frankly I'm making my addiction to nicotine worse. I don't want that for myself, I don't want to keep buying juices and "bigger and better" for an addiction that I eventually want to give up altogether. I'm sure I'm not alone in this.

I think that it's irresponsible to tell somebody that something that they bought is crap and to send it back. If somebody buys a Blu they're doing the right thing because they're not buying cigarettes. As Big Chief said in his thread, it's our responsibility to help people make what they have work for them, not make them feel foolish because we don't agree with how they spend their money. I think we should save our 2 cents until the user themselves expresses displeasure. How dare we make people feel stupid for wanting to better their health. I don't care if the friggen PV somebody bought is made of rocks and dirt, we should be helping them make the most of it. There's a diplomatic way to say things and express our opinions.

Alot of people in the gaming forums I visit say "I don't care if you're playing Xbox,Playstation or a dusty old Atari, we're all gamers." That should apply here too, we're all vapers regardless of the equipment we use. Fanboyism in something as serious as quitting cigarettes is ridiculous."
 

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ANd that's fine to. For some people a product that is bottom of the barrel is just fine. Can I say that and not be giving offense? Not suggesting anything about you by that statement, just giving my opinion of the Blu. I own quite a few bottom tier tools that do exactly what I need, so for me they are fine, but if someone asks my opinion of them, I am quick to tell them of its shortcomings.

I'm sure for some people the Blu works just fine, I've just never actually seen it happen. My advice is always based on things I have experienced for myself, and seen others experience first hand. Knowing what I know, and seeing what I have seen about Blu, I would have to recommend against it. That's all, I have no vested interest in who buys what product. If you notice I haven't said which PV I use 100% of the time.

Truth is, to a point, it doesn't matter, as long as you buy a device made for performance, and not the "hey this thing still looks like a cig...kinda" look. If the look is more important than performance, then by all means, you should like the Blu. I mean it looks sweet, just doesn't perform well at all IMO. I'm sure by now the poster should've already formed his own opinion. What do you guys think it will be?
 

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But I'm another one that likes Blu. As I wrote in my post before this, why can't I just enjoy my Blu? It's almost a bad word to say on this forum and it should not be that way. I readily accept that I'll be buying a 501, etc. etc. as I mentioned in my previous post, but I'll always love my Blu. It's what got me, personally, off analogs and I personally enjoy it. Sure I'm in the minority. I've always gone for the underdog teams in sports for instance. That's just me. Interesting thing is, my Blu PV works for me - my needs. People should be ok with that. If I ever ask a question about cleaning attys on my Blu for instance, like I did to Cassie, she was kind enough to answer without telling me to dump a product I like. That's real help. Just my 2 cents.

When Magus86 wrote this below, I think he's right, IMHO.

Actually that wasn't me, but I totally agree with the person you quoted.

And if there's one thing I've learned in life, it's that statistics generally don't mean jack .... because whoever's presenting them will present them in a way that is skewed to get you to side with whatever agenda they're pushing down your throat. There are usually lurking variables involved that are never mentioned because if they would be, the cause and effect relationship people usually use statistics to try to prove would be much easier to dismiss because it simply isn't there.

For example... During the summer months there are a lot more people eating ice cream than any other time of the month. There also happen to be a lot more people drowning during the same months that there are a lot more people eating ice cream. I could put these two together and deduce that eating ice cream must cause drowning. However, I would be a fool to suggest this because that's friggin' ......ed. There are more people drowning because there are more people swimming because it's HOT, which is the same reason more people are eating ice cream. You don't usually eat ice cream when it's colder than a witch's tit outside, and you sure as hell would't be swimming then either.

Also, I used to go to an airsoft forum where everybody bashed the living hell out of an airsoft gun company called HFC. They all swore up and down, usually without any experience with what they were bashing, that HFC made nothing but crappy guns. They also swore up and down that UHC was a great gun manufacturer. Well, to this day I have NO UHC airsoft guns left because they all broke to the point of being unusable. However, only the very first HFC gun I bought is no longer with me(the stock broke and I sent the rest of it to a friend for parts), and all the rest still are. Why? because they're durable as hell, despite what people said and what your almighty statistics showed. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find that there are a lot of people who will bash blu without ever even using it simply because they see and hear it getting bashed constantly.

My point here is that people talk out their asses a lot. This is not to say that I think everybody here who doesn't like blu is doing the same, but I'm sure there are some.

When I got my blu and was having battery issues, I went searching on the internet to see what kind of battery life others got. I read thru all kinds of stories about blu sucking and thought I'd just made a huge mistake at first. But I kept with it and found out it's not all entirely true. I know it's not the best. It might be the worst, but I find that hard to believe. Regardless, it's not a gigantic worthless POS like most people seem to make it out to be. Like I said, we need to help people make the most out of their blu experience, or point them in the direction of something that will suit them better... But this negativity and constant bashing is unnecessary and in my opinion, just plain wrong.

I went with blu because it was the cheapest I could find for what I got. I'm well aware that there are cheaper suppliers of L88Bs,but I can only seem to find ones that would have to ship from another country, which means it would have to go thru customs. Given the seizures that are going on, I don't want to take that risk. Now that I have my kit, if I need replacement parts, they're not that expensive. And like I said, it does exactly what I need it to. It paid for itself already. It works for me, and I'm extremely happy with it. I'm not trying to change anybody's opinion, just enough with the damn bashing already.

I use my BLU 100% of the time. I have no other PV. I still smoke, but not because the blu doesn't do its job. I smoke to cover up the smell of something else.
 

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As a blu user, ((finally)) I can say that blu is working for me. granted I've only had it for approx 6 hours or so, but I haven't wanted an analog. I've been "quitting" for quite some time. Yes, I was one of those friends who NEVER had his own smokes and ALWAYS bummed, but it was to keep my partner off my back. He really hated me smoking and has been threating me for some time if I didn't stop. We talked and agreed that this would be a workable alternative, as long as it wasn't forever. My greatest test was when one of my friends came over with a pack of analogs. This guy hasn't walked out of my house without giving me an analog for probably the past 3 months but I had NO urge to ask him for one today. That's how I know that Blu is going to work for me. Now with that being said, yes I will agree that there are a few issues. Vapor production isn't the greatest, but that's not something that this hinges on for me. Yeah the carts taste a little off (I've tried menthol, cherry, and classic tobacco, with tobacco being my favorite so far.) but this was something I was prepared for. I bought some VaporBomb juice and once I have a few empty carts Ill be swapping that out and trying those. But for my needs, this is working great. I haven't had an analog since 11:30 last night and I don't plan on picking one up again. Now off to find some empty carts and attys for this. I've heard the atty and cart for a 501 would fit on the blu battery, where's the best vendor for ordering those parts?
 

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If you want a great PCC kit that is a 510 check out Revolver, There Gemini is a great kit(got that after I sent back my Blu) and they just came out with a infinitron? which looks like a 510 with a even better PCC. If you do want a mini their elite is also a very good kit. I really like their gear and customer service:
Revolvercig.com

I also got duped by Blu and could on and on. I agree with the above and say send that crap back!!!! At least I got to send my kits back before they started this lame partial refund if you use a cart.

Also a good move would be a Tornado/eGo/Riva/Vgo....all basically the same thing with a couple of these having a slightly stronger batt.......IMO 510 is the way to go.

Good luck and welcome!!!!!
 

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Blu was enough to get me started (boyfriend too). He still uses his along with his 510's. Blu atty works fine on 510 batts, 510 carts on blu batts is hard to draw. We both like our blu's but I was more demanding, needed better TH & vapor. I actully just sent back my 2 blu batteries (both died). My best equipment is my eGo (have 2 batteries, last me 2-3 days each) and my 5v PT. Love the PT and since I am near an outlet most of the time or in the car it is great to have!

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John, do you use the Blu 100% of the time? Do you still smoke?

I'm so sorry for not responding earlier StarsAndBars. Yes, unfortunately Blu is all I have and I do vape with it 100% of the time. I was smoke free for 9 entire days (first time in 17 years). The only reason I went back to analogs was because I made the typical newbie mistake of not having a supply of Nicotine juice. I ran out, tried VG with flavorings, but the Nic withdrawal was killing me. Today, finally, I've received some Tennessee Cured from JC. Total awesomeness!

I say unfortunately with regard to Blu because I do agree with you about other products such as the 501 and I haven't had the finances yet to buy others. I know I'll be blown away when I do. From the amount of helpful comments on here from all of you great people and videos I've seen on YouTube showing vapor production, battery life, style and quality - I do realize there are better alternatives.

All I meant to say is that Blu got me off analogs, I still vape with it, and it will always be in rotation for when I go out socially. It'll always be my first love. So far, it's doing the job for me - a pack and half a day smoker. I love the weight and size as well.

If I would have had the experience you had with all the people you know that went back to smoking and/or hated the product, I wouldn't recommend it either. I totally agree. In fact, I don't recommend it - I just don't bash people who use it, and I don't mean you by any stretch of the imagination. I think it's pretty cool to see people evolve with vaping. I also do dislike mentioning what I brand I vape with, but I just had to drop my humble opinion in here.

And no offense taken. Your posts help so many people. I know they did me when I was still lurking on this site.
 

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I have to say that after the Blu bashing for the past year or so, I was still curious. I am primarily a KR808 user (and yes, I have 510's, an Ego, and just about everything else over the past 20 months of vaping). It is very cute, and I DO still like e cigs that look like the real thing. I have little interest in the mods....sorry to all who will flame me for this. Anyway, I did finally buy a Blu from a forum member. I have to say I do like it. It has good flavor. It has a better throat hit than the 510's, and it is nice looking. The battery life sucks, but for all who have used minis, you already know that. Other than battery life, the Blu is pretty cool. Drip on it, fill it with your own juice, and it's a winner IMO. Buy some extra batteries; charge them all up, and you are set. I still like the KR808 best, but that doesn't mean the Blu has no redeeming qualities: it clearly does. Again, to the flamers; mods are not what everyone likes. Neither is the 510. The Blu was flamed over and over on this forum, primarily by people who didn't bother to try it. If you like the look of a mini, don't mind changing out batteries and dripping, buy one.
 

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I have to say that after the Blu bashing for the past year or so, I was still curious. I am primarily a KR808 user (and yes, I have 510's, an Ego, and just about everything else over the past 20 months of vaping). It is very cute, and I DO still like e cigs that look like the real thing. I have little interest in the mods....sorry to all who will flame me for this. Anyway, I did finally buy a Blu from a forum member. I have to say I do like it. It has good flavor. It has a better throat hit than the 510's, and it is nice looking. The battery life sucks, but for all who have used minis, you already know that. Other than battery life, the Blu is pretty cool. Drip on it, fill it with your own juice, and it's a winner IMO. Buy some extra batteries; charge them all up, and you are set. I still like the KR808 best, but that doesn't mean the Blu has no redeeming qualities: it clearly does. Again, to the flamers; mods are not what everyone likes. Neither is the 510. The Blu was flamed over and over on this forum, primarily by people who didn't bother to try it. If you like the look of a mini, don't mind changing out batteries and dripping, buy one.

I'm starting to drip as well - battery life does suck, but I like the weight and look of it. I love hearing experiences like this from veterans.
 

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n offense to anyone in this thread...but statistics are EVERYTHING..they can tell you a lot if the research is done in the right mater...After taking two statistics classes you understand them better...a lot depends on the significance level and margin of error...and the stats dont lie when it comes to blu...most hate them....and end up smoking analogs...

I hear a lot of people saying ya but not everyone needs the best of the best and it does a good enough job....well you are unfortunately the minority and theres nothing wrong with that...I am happy your vaping period!


It all comes down to the fact that Blu offers a low end product at HIGH prices!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Recommend a generic Blu if you want but dont recommend the higher prices item...it just doesnt make sense...For some that want a small e cig that doesnt last long or put out a lot of vapor recommend a generic L88 because it is the same thing as Blu only they will save a lot of cash in the process!

I understant that everyones vaping habits are different and if the L88 works for them then great but get a GENERIC L88....dont recommend the overpriced item just cuz it worked for you...

Yes theres better stuff out there for cheaper...but maybe they dont want that...thats fine....but blu is still a bad choice for recommendations
 

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n offense to anyone in this thread...but statistics are EVERYTHING..they can tell you a lot if the research is done in the right mater...After taking two statistics classes you understand them better...a lot depends on the significance level and margin of error...and the stats dont lie when it comes to blu...most hate them....and end up smoking analogs...

I hear a lot of people saying ya but not everyone needs the best of the best and it does a good enough job....well you are unfortunately the minority and theres nothing wrong with that...I am happy your vaping period!


It all comes down to the fact that Blu offers a low end product at HIGH prices!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Recommend a generic Blu if you want but dont recommend the higher prices item...it just doesnt make sense...For some that want a small e cig that doesnt last long or put out a lot of vapor recommend a generic L88 because it is the same thing as Blu only they will save a lot of cash in the process!

I understant that everyones vaping habits are different and if the L88 works for them then great but get a GENERIC L88....dont recommend the overpriced item just cuz it worked for you...

Yes theres better stuff out there for cheaper...but maybe they dont want that...thats fine....but blu is still a bad choice for recommendations


Some great points here. I've never recommended a Blu because I don't recommend much of anything ... if I'm asked I just say what I vape with and how it works for me. If I ever felt like recommending the product I use, I'd just as well recommend a generic L88. Good idea. Very well put.

You wrote, "I am happy your vaping period!" ... right on! That's what I'm talking about :) Am I an idiot for loving their PCC design and that's one of the main reasons I bought it? Yeah I know, yes I am ... don't answer lol
 

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Sherid - A lot of good points there.

There is always a chance, even with the most well-loved models, that it won't work for someone. I now have a 510, which I like, but mostly if I'm just chain vaping. When I really need to feel like I'm smoking, I always go back to my Kr8.

If I had started with the 510, would it have worked for me? Maybe. I really don't know.

It's not harsh enough for me, a lot of the time. It feels cool. The vapor production is great, but it doesn't *feel* like smoking to me.

So there's a very real chance that if I'd started with the 510, I would have been hanging on to those last few analogs, which with the Kr8, I didn't.

So no, not everyone likes the 510 (I do, just not enough to have it as my main vape). Not everyone likes mods or high voltage (I don't - totally with you), and some people do like the super-minis.

For me, making recommendations is a numbers game. What is the *most likely* good solution? I could always be wrong, but I just try to take good bets. And between the Kr8 and the 510, that'll cover about 80% of the board well enough to get started. So that's what I go with.

A lot of people wind up moving on, and some people don't find a solution with either of those things. But most can and do drop the analogs with one of those two models.

JohnReagan - It is a damn nice PCC, and they are handy things indeed. I don't strictly *need* a PCC for my Kr8, but... c'mon. It looks like a 1920's cigarette case. ;)
 

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JohnReagan - It is a damn nice PCC, and they are handy things indeed. I don't strictly *need* a PCC for my Kr8, but... c'mon. It looks like a 1920's cigarette case. ;)

You showed off a gold case in one of your YouTube videos for broke people, like me - part 5 I think. That was very cool!

My PCC does look 1920's! Now if I could only find a way to look like Humphrey Bogart, then I'm golden.

Running off to read up on Kr8's!
 
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