Originally Posted by wv2win
I don't blame you for not wanting to answer my questions but instead just "trash" the quite valid advice I provided. You joined this forum this month, have 60 posts and somehow you think my advice is bad and your's is just great. That's a very arrogant position. I suspect you have one PV and that you have never tried a Dura-C or Titan or Zi Moshi or Screwdriver or any PV with a 1000mAh battery and/or a manual switch, yet you "act" like you are well informed and experienced and attack my advice. WV
As soon as this has anything to do with the discussion I will be happy to address it but in this thread it is just subversion. DW
Lack of experience and your arrogance has everything to do with this thread. It’s a shame that you are so threatened by advice that is different than yours, that you would attack a post when it had nothing to do with you or was written to you. And when intelligent people seek advice on a subject, a person’s experience is important. But you just keep yours a secret, I don’t blame you. WV
Did I attack your advice? No. I have read more threads on this forum than you ever possibly could going back to December of 2008 and yet you think you know how the veteran members think and what they recommended before you ever heard the word "e-cig". Again, quite arrogant. WV
Actually because I HAVE BEEN reading the forum I have seen what the real veteran members think of you. IMHO it is not very flattering. I do not hold that against you though. I have been you on many forums. The guy that is all technical knowledge with a piss poor demeanor and attitude that everythingI say MUST be right. DW
It is very easy to make comments about other’s opinions that are false and highlight them with capitals and underlines. That sure doesn’t make them the truth. Just hot air. The members that have been here much longer than you have sent me enough PM’s as well as public messages that prove you are wrong. But I do agree that there are always a few insecure people like yourself in every group that has to strike out at others in an attempt to seemingly mark their territory. Quite sad. WV
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ou also will not address the valid point that dripping on the atomizer as you recommend has casued premature battery failure for many users as reported on this forum. Is that because you are too arrogant to think you might not know the facts or just that you aren't as informed as you think you are? WV
Actually I think you are exaggerating a great deal. This is something I pointed out before. Because I HAVE BEEN reading the forum I know that it is not a rampant problem like you are making it out to be. prove me wrong and find me three posts from people with dead RN4081 batteries from dripping and I will admit to being wrong on this one. DW
Another example of your misrepresentation of my original post. And you are being quite generous with yourself when you use the words “I think”. Reading the forum for less than a month, do you think you might have missed the posts about the problems with dripping and hurting the battery? Here’s just one from a veteran:
“ARP--Because you drip, the e-liquid drips down into the battery from the atomizer and gets into the housing of the pressue switch causing it to stick on--Blow and suck on the battery hole and also wack the battery down thread end onto a table hard all in an effort to clear the sticky switch---This will continue to happen until you give up dripping--that is the only way to stop ruining your equipment---Sun” WV
And in addition I never said it was “rampant” but that it does happen. WV
As far as incomplete advice, I suppose I could write a 10 page report on all things PV but I don't think SmokeyJoe would like that too much. And there isn't one point in my post that has not been made by others on this forum way before you joined and supports my own experiences. WV
It is such a shame you have zero understanding of context. In a discussion with other experienced vapers it would be totally appropriate to impart elaborate devices like the screwdriver or the GG but in a discussion with someone who has no real experience it is not exactly appropriate and will only serve to confuse the OP, the situation and the ability to get the OP the information that could help their current situation.
Why would someone even bother to listen to advice on how to improve their experience if they believe you when you say they will not be able to get throat hit without a manual switch device? A statement that is absolutely, and without ANY doubt 100% wrong. DW
WOW, now you are the forum “appropriate” police! How arrogant that all “advice” posts be cleared through you. And it is quite ‘demeaning” to others and the OP that you think they are not intelligent enough to understand the advice I was providing. And on the throat hit question, since you have no experience with a manual switch or larger batteries you have no clue what the difference is but you still think you know what your are writing about. Try reading the mod forum if it’s not too technical for you and try to teach yourself what works better. WV
You also stated that the purchase prices I quoted were twice what the OP would be paying. For a 901 which I recommended, the range I provided was $49.95-$69.95. Please tell us all just one supplier that have 901's for $25 without buying in bulk? WV
RuyanDirect oh great reader of others. Amazing how you are reading so much more than me and have been around so much longer but I somehow managed to find that one. Absolutely remarkable I tell you. DW
Yep, you got me. There is one supplier out of the 30-40 on this forum that sells a 901 for $29. I wonder why that is??? WV
Explaining the difference between PG & VG is more than most new users want to know in an initial post but I have explained it many times in follow-up posts. Interesting, I noticed you didn't mention it in your post either but you threw it in my face. More arrogance. WV
Actually I did mention it in my post. see point #6? Well Spikey explains about liquids in her video. The problem here is I actually watched her video because I am actually taking in information here. You on the other hand can not be bothered with what anybody else has to say because you have convinced yourself you already know everything.
And you think you can talk about arrogance you obtuse D-bag? DW
Again you are making false comments because I guess that is just the type of person you are. I have watched Spikey’s video and before you did. I sent her a message on how good it was and a great addition to the forum. And then the use of name calling- always the mark of such high intelligence. WV
On the strength of the liquid I gave the OP my experience and stated that clearly and that you can't increase the nic strength but you can decrease it easily. Again, giving the OP options. How that is bad, wrong or incomplete advice, I would love to know. WV
Because to much information to quickly is a deterent to the general public. If you really think someone who's only experience with E-cigs is a trip to the mall is ready to start mixing or cutting liquids I think you are completely detached from the real world that the rest of us live in. DW
First I don’t give enough information, then I give too much information. Your consistency is underwhelming. I and many others have stated they started mixing within a week or two. Not everyone is as afraid of new challenges as you are. WV
Oh, wait, you dont' want to provide enough information or answer specific questions or provide information about how experienced you are do you. WV
You are right, I have no interest whatsoever in 'prooving my credentials'. The fact of the matter is my 'credentials' are inconsequential if the things I am saying are correct. DW
The things you are saying are your opinion, nothing else. The same as mine. And I never attacked you for your opinion. But an opinion based on more knowledge and experience in most cases is more valuable. (just keep hiding your experience, that’s probably a good idea.) WV
Here's mine and it's not nearly as vast as many but definitely much more than you: I've used an 801, 901, 401, Kissbox, peewee, pipe and screwdriver. I used 10 different suppliers; tried 22 different flavors of liquid; tried 7 different strengths of liquid; made my own liquid using PG and VG and tried 4 different suppliers of flavorings. WV
I hope it makes you feel good to say all that but it makes virtually no difference if you are unable to relate to a beginner DW
I guess those positive comments I have received on this same advice from beginners must just be members joking or something. WV
You know, it is a shame. You are obviously an intelligent guy and you write well ut you seem to impair yourself with an unrealistic expectation that any old newbie is ready for the advanced course and has a small fortune to lay out on vaping equipment. DW
I provided 4 different devices to the OP and two of those are the most popular ones on this forum, the 901 and 801. And you assuming what is a “small fortune” for someone you don’t even know is presumptuous. Who thinks they “know it all, again” WV
You need to understand that not everybody is you. Not everybody is looking for the same thing and your advice, might be perfect for you but for a newbie it is generally bad advice. You do not seem to have the ability to understand that advanced advice does not belong in the beginner section. DW
Funny I don’t remember stating to the OP that my post was the PV bible. I did give him/her much more credit than you did and knew he would take what fit for him and forget the rest. I guess you view yourself so much more intelligent than the rest of us that is why you want everyone to “dumb down” their advice. WV
At the end of the day, I have the exact same device as the OP and I have advice to offer to help improve the OP's experience. You have a well rounded knowledge of PV's in general but do not seem to have any advice for the OP on how to improve their situation other then suggesting the go back to square one, start over and spend a bunch of money. DW
I FINALLY figured out why you attacked my post and me even though it had nothing to do with you! You have the same PV and because I mentioned that I had seen others not happy with the device, you took that as an attack on your choice of PV’s. And due to your great insecurity, you lashed out. Dude, you need some serious counseling! WV
Now REALLY, how much sense does your advice make to give to someone who just spent a few HUNDRED dollars on something they are not satisfied with?
If you are not at least STARTING to get the picture here i am at a complete loss on how to explain it to you. You really need to take your head out of that bubble and actually consider the other persons perspective before you speak.
And one last thing...
Challenging others experience level is a very juvinile tactic. I am quite sure you would not appreciate it very much if I tried to imply you are unqualified to speak to me because this is your first forum so you obviously do not know how to condust yourself on one but I have been utilizing web based forums for around a decade. Seriously, you don't even have a full page of google results behind your name. Who the *****do you think you are? DW
Let’s see, I’m supposed to be juvenile but your last sentence says “Who the *****” (expletive). Man, you really do need to get some help. Going after others who said nothing to you just because they stated they had seen others have problems with a product you bought, demonstrates someone who has issues. WV
