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roxynoodle

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Ok, then it was something with the mod, although you weren't sure if your fire button may have been sticking.

This is all I can think of then:

Second battery was in backwards, or
Battery contact got pushed against something it shouldn't have like the box itself.
Not sure how that box works, but could the firing arm have been touching something and the build had a short?

If it wasn't the atty,.and the batteries were in correctly, something malfunctioned on that mod. When you retrieve it from outside, its worth trying to figure out what.

I do take my mechs apart when I get them to clean them and understand how the connection is made to help with problems later.
 

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    Doesn't matter how experienced I am , I put the 2nd batterie In and it just lit up could of been batterie upside down but I 90% sure it wasn't that . And how isn't it smart and safe doing a .19 build and put it on and didn't even hit the fire button . But anyways idc it's done with my local shop said I can send it to flawless to get new or it fixed ? I got couple other tugs and mechs to use but still sucks

    IMO of course, but 0.19 ohms is never safe unless you are using temperature control with other than kanthal wire.

    Simple question:
    How can you trust your ohm reader that has an accuracy of +/- .15 ohm or 4% (whichever is greater) to accurately read .19 ohms?
    For starters, your meter must read at least one more decimal than what you are trying to read, because the last decimal is always rounded off.

    So to be blunt about it ..... you're pushing limits man! And that has risks.
     
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    Rizzyking

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    OK have read op's other threads and I'm out of this sparkler you don't know what your doing and you've been lucky I'm not going to repost what you should know others have done that and you clearly haven't bothered. This is an accident waiting to happen and when it does the headline won't be "unknowledgeable person gets hurt by doing something stupid" it will be "another ecig explodes harming user" honest guys get out of this and let him go into whatever disaster he creates because he will not learn what he needs to know to be safe plenty on ECF have tried and still he continues.
     

    DaveSignal

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    They are safe because they did not explode. .19 is not going to cause a Samsung 25R to vent, especially in a parallel configuration. This is only around 10 amps per battery and those batteries have a 20A CDR (CDR is tested with the battery discharging 20A constantly for the full cycle of battery charge). So, even if the button was stuck, this is not the issue.

    The issue is that there is a short in the mod. Or the second battery was put in in the opposite direction as the first. If the batteries were put in correctly, a wire has come loose or the battery sled is shorting to the metal of the box.

    OP, if you really want an unregulated box, a true mech is much more durable.
     

    Mooch

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    I thought Safe batteries just Fizzled out. How are these safer than Lipos?

    It's best to think of them as "safer", not safe. :)

    All Li-Ion batteries are about the same when they are overloaded and they "vent", releasing excess pressure/gas and the liquid that's inside, the "electrolyte". This stuff is toxic and can damage your mod.

    If you push a battery very, very hard or short-circuit it you can heat it up so fast that the venting doesn't happen quick enough to stop the temperature from rising high enough to cause "thermal runaway" inside the battery. The result of thermal runaway can be a bursting of the battery, almost explosively.

    The batteries we use most often, "IMR", "INR", etc., are safer than LiPo's and "ICR" batteries because they use different chemistries inside. These other chemistries need a higher temperature before they go into thermal runaway. So while you can still have big problems if you short-circuit a non-LiPo battery, it's easier to get into trouble with a LiPo (since it goes into runaway at a lower temperature).

    The non-LiPo chemistries also have another benefit...if pushed into thermal runaway the reaction is gentler than with a LiPo. When a LiPo goes it has a much more energetic reaction that reaches a much higher temperature. This often ignites the solvent in the electrolyte on fire, which is...umm...bad. The higher temperature of the LiPo reaction also makes it easier for a LiPo to ignite other nearby batteries or to further damage your mod.
     

    stevegmu

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    EVERYONE who vapes should have a fire extinguisher in the house (the type that puts out litium ion type fires, not the regular kind).

    Ask your fire department guys to recommend one. I have one for regular fires and also one for this, I "think" it is a type D, but dn't quote me on that.

    (the regular kind is Type A.....type D is for metals)

    No idea why I never see this posted on the forum. Get a fire extinguisher for batteries~

    I think an ammo box would be great. It would contain the blast or fire without making a mess...
     
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    Mooch

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    I think an ammo box would be great. It would contain the blast or fire without making a mess...

    That's what I use for testing batteries, lined with ceramic cloth.
    Never latch the top closed though! Just put the lid down so the gases/pressure can escape.
     

    Rizzyking

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    ...teach them gently :wub:
    There are some people who can't be taught because they have no desire to learn as blunt as it is sparkler is one of them reading his other threads showed he absolutely does not have the knowledge to use any unregulated but insists on doing so. Numerous people have offered advice and links to good articles and here we are again this is going to end in injury and I want no part in it and neither should anyone else just leave the op to his blinkered journey and hope when the worst does happen that the injuries are minor and only affect one person.
     

    Hans Wermhat

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    Find the Tuglyfe Unregulated Box Mod by Flawless Online Here - Viper Vape
    I think this is the mod he blew up. It's very reminiscent of a CB. I think we tried to tell him that the last time he was on here. Or was that some other noob who wouldn't listen? Not trying to be a "richard", but we all tried to tell him last time not to build that low. At least not until he was more experienced. I think this is the guy that was doing like 3 wrap dual coils? We tried to tell him he needed to get the ohms up, but he just didn't want to hear it. The guys at the B&M told him he could do it, so... :facepalm:

    OP - Please don't make the same mistake again. There's no reason you need to build that low to get big clouds. More wraps on a coil equals more surface area in contact with the wick, which in turn equals bigger clouds. It also increases your resistance to a safer level. Try some 28G Kanthal 3mm dual coils and about 8 wraps each. It takes a second to heat up, but will give you bigger clouds that don't melt your tonsils.
     
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