Box caught fire

[DaveSignal]

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I think this is the mod he blew up. It's very reminiscent of a CB. ...We tried to tell him he needed to get the ohms up, but he just didn't want to hear it.

It is nothing like a CB (which is a great mech). This is not a mech, it is an unregulated MOSFET box with many wires. If batteries were inserted correctly, something is shorting the battery sled to the metal on the box, causing dead short. Or, some of the wiring has broken off of the solder points and is causing a dead short.

The issue has absolutely nothing to do with a .19 ohm build. Even thinking so is ridiculous.

 

[edyle]

It is nothing like a CB (which is a great mech). This is not a mech, it is an unregulated MOSFET box with many wires. If batteries were inserted correctly, something is shorting the battery sled to the metal on the box, causing dead short. Or, some of the wiring has broken off of the solder points and is causing a dead short.

The issue has absolutely nothing to do with a .19 ohm build. Even thinking so is ridiculous.

^^^^^^^^^
Exactly.
He already had one battery in the mod.
He said it in his original post.
The problem happened the moment he added the second battery.

indicates he put the battery in the wrong way.

hi guys , I got a tug box mod with kennedy rda,did a build with a .19 ohm come out . Had box for bout a month when I bought it from shop said was new when I got home realized their was brown on bottom under batterie slots and box was scratched thought no problem but don't kno if something was wrong with it worked fine till last night put my .19 build on it put batteries in to fire it to fix coils befor wicking , second I put the second batterie in the top and bottom of the batteries lit up within a second bright red , I was like shocked then 2 seconds later the tops and bottoms actually literally went on fire within seconds , I ripped the batterie out burned my fingers then through everything outside till today , wat went wrong ? I kno I had batteries in right .....

 

[jambi]

OK have read op's other threads and I'm out of this sparkler you don't know what your doing and you've been lucky I'm not going to repost what you should know others have done that and you clearly haven't bothered. This is an accident waiting to happen and when it does the headline won't be "unknowledgeable person gets hurt by doing something stupid" it will be "another ecig explodes harming user" honest guys get out of this and let him go into whatever disaster he creates because he will not learn what he needs to know to be safe plenty on ECF have tried and still he continues.

Mother do you think they'll drop the bomb...

 

[DaveSignal]

^^^^^^^^^
Exactly.
He already had one battery in the mod.
He said it in his original post.
The problem happened the moment he added the second battery.

indicates he put the battery in the wrong way.

Yes, this is the most likely scenario, but I am trying to think of other possible ways it could have happened, since OP seems to think he inserted the batteries correctly.

 

[Racehorse]

I think an ammo box would be great. It would contain the blast or fire without making a mess...

I suggested a class d fire extinguisher because of the number of posts I see where the person is holding or about to use the item i.e. the item or batts are no longer sitting in an ammo box getting charged.

It sure beats 1) carrying it outside to toss while burning your hands, or 2) having your house burn down because you have a venting battery that is going to put a hole in your carpet/linoleum/countertop while you stand there helplessly "watching" it vent.

This is the whole purpose of a fire extinguisher........safety.

 

[stevegmu]

I suggested a class d fire extinguisher because of the number of posts I see where the person is holding or about to use the item i.e. the item or batts are no longer sitting in an ammo box getting charged.

It sure beats 1) carrying it outside to toss while burning your hands, or 2) having your house burn down because you have a venting battery that is going to put a hole in your carpet/linoleum/countertop

This is the whole purpose of a fire extinguisher........safety.

We had fire extinguisher training at work once. You'd be surprised at how many people can't figure out how to use one. They do have those small, aerosol style ones though. I'm thinking ammo box nearby so they can toss the burning mod into it when it starts to vent...

 

[Hans Wermhat]

Yes, it has a mosfet chip and 2 extra wires to connect it. And you're right it's not exactly like a CB. It has an actual sled for the batts. My bad. Got my mods confused. But that's still a mech built in a 1590 box. Mosfet or not. It's not a beginner mod. And I still say this guy is gonna end up on the news.

 

[Sparkler24]

Yes that is the box I blew up and I didn't listen I'm not gonn say I listen cuz I obviously didn't ? But thankfully I'm safe but that made me realize some people need the extent to realize and I'm thick headed and "that guy " say what u want but all I wanted to kno was causes ... Thank u ...

 

[Sparkler24]

Don't the batteries blow up after they catch fire or do they only explode if they have no way of venting like in a mech with no vent holes

 

[Sparkler24]

Do u think flawless will help me or laugh lol my vape shop said send it out but I'm kinda like even if it ain't my fault it happens their prolly gonna say it is witch is possible but what do u think about sending it , I think it's not even worth it .

 

[Hans Wermhat]

Have you tried a regulated mod? They can actually work better at higher power. And they are MUCH safer. If you put the batteries in backwards, they don't turn on. If your build is too low, they won't fire. And if you want to go above 80W, you can't do that with a parallel mech anyways. My best fog machine has a huge pair of claptons @ .26 ohms in it. My 2x26650 mech will fire it, but it takes forever to heat up and it never really performs right. I put it on my iPV4 at 85W and it fires instantly and makes HUGE clouds. That .19 build you have is sucking almost 23A out of your batteries at full charge and is likely too hot to take a complete lungful. If you use a regulated series mod, you can run .6ish ohms at 50W and get a similar cloud without the excess heat. Bigger coils will always make more vapor, and bigger coils take more power to heat up. And regulated mods can make a higher voltage, giving you the wattage you need at a lower amperage.

 

[Sparkler24]

Yeah I want a regulated but budget isn't good at the moment but want one next purchas my brother in law who I live with has a ipv4 he lets me use it whenever but I only ever tried it with a tank I hate tanks , my tug rda is broke right now will my Kennedy work on the ipv4? Would it be nice ?

 

[Hans Wermhat]

Yes and Yes. Build some new coils for it with a lot more wraps (like 6 or 8 @ 3mm) and crank up the wattage to like 50W for starters. Try it out. You can pick up a decent 50W - 100+W mod for $50 - $75 these days.
Single 18650
Pioneer IPVD2 75w/ Vapor World
75W with TC
Sigelei 75w Temperature Control Mod
Old school Sig 150
Sigelei 150 watt Box Mod
iPV4 (100W, no Ti wire, but you can upgrade and remove the charging board)
IPV 4 Silver - Vapor World
I don't know about some of those retailers, but that should give you a price point for the mods. Figure out what you want and use Vapecrawler to find the best price and coupon codes.

I hope I didn't offend you today. That wasn't my intent. Just want to see another happy, SAFE vaper out there and not another story on the news.

 

[DaveSignal]

Yes, it has a mosfet chip and 2 extra wires to connect it. And you're right it's not exactly like a CB. It has an actual sled for the batts. My bad. Got my mods confused. But that's still a mech built in a 1590 box. Mosfet or not. It's not a beginner mod. And I still say this guy is gonna end up on the news.

Lets call it an "unregulated box mod" but a mech it is not. There is a wire going behind the battery sled up to the MOSFET. There is also a wire going from the switch to the MOSFET. And there is a wire going from the negative on the 510 connection to the MOSFET. There is also a wire going from battery positive to the switch and yet another wire going from battery positive to atomizer 510 pin. Each of the sled contacts are separately soldered. And there is a resistor soldered to two of the MOSFET pins and pressed against the right side of the MOSFET, without any heatshrink. I count exactly 12 soldered wire connections.

A mech mod is, as the name implies, completely mechanical. It uses a mechanical switch and has no wires, MOSFETs, resistors, or other soldered points.

 

[jimbodaddy74]

hi guys , I got a tug box mod with kennedy rda,did a build with a .19 ohm come out . Had box for bout a month when I bought it from shop said was new when I got home realized their was brown on bottom under batterie slots and box was scratched thought no problem but don't kno if something was wrong with it worked fine till last night put my .19 build on it put batteries in to fire it to fix coils befor wicking , second I put the second batterie in the top and bottom of the batteries lit up within a second bright red , I was like shocked then 2 seconds later the tops and bottoms actually literally went on fire within seconds , I ripped the batterie out burned my fingers then through everything outside till today , wat went wrong ? I kno I had batteries in right .....

Not only do you need courses in Ohm's law, and battery safety, but you could also use some remedial grammar courses.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

EVERYONE who vapes should have a fire extinguisher in the house (the type that puts out litium ion type fires, not the regular kind).

Ask your fire department guys to recommend one. I have one for regular fires and also one for this, I "think" it is a type D, but dn't quote me on that.

(the regular kind is Type A.....type D is for metals)

No idea why I never see this posted on the forum. Get a fire extinguisher for batteries~

Yeah, maybe a good idea, however, they don't stop the battery from venting and exploding.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

I have learned from experience that when you buy something from a B&M vape store always open, inspect & test anything you buy before you leave and if you see corrosion, demand a new product. If possible, buy with a credit card or a debit card with a Visa or Mastercard logo on it so that you have post-sale protection for 3 months (or more depending on the state you live in).

 

[Mooch]

I suggested a class d fire extinguisher because of the number of posts I see where the person is holding or about to use the item i.e. the item or batts are no longer sitting in an ammo box getting charged.

It sure beats 1) carrying it outside to toss while burning your hands, or 2) having your house burn down because you have a venting battery that is going to put a hole in your carpet/linoleum/countertop while you stand there helplessly "watching" it vent.

This is the whole purpose of a fire extinguisher........safety.

Agreed.

You don't need a Type D extinguisher though. There's no metallic lithium in our rechargeable Li-Ion's. In fact, the most effective way to stop a battery in thermal runaway is to use water or an aqueous foam (or similar water-based method). The density of the water, versus powder or gas, quickly brings down the temperature of battery below the thermal runaway threshold and the reaction stops.

 

[Ryedan]

Yes that is the box I blew up and I didn't listen I'm not gonn say I listen cuz I obviously didn't ? But thankfully I'm safe but that made me realize some people need the extent to realize and I'm thick headed and "that guy " say what u want but all I wanted to kno was causes ... Thank u ...

Sparkler, I think people tried to help you stay safe. If you don't listen, there is not much anyone can do to help you 'cause you don't listen

I'm gad you're OK and I also hope you have a better appreciation of the risks you're taking after this experience. IMO if you're not able to or not willing to learn how to be safe with the gear you're using, don't use it. There is a lot of hardware out there these days that will put out a lot of power with very little risk. Yes it costs a bit more to buy, but it can save you a lot of pain if you make the wrong mistake and things go bad.

I'm not trying to give you a hard time. Then problem is if you continue to use equipment that requires more knowledge to use safely than you have right now you can be injured. It sucks, but it is what it is.

If I were in your position I would slow down and learn more about this stuff before I dove in again. I hope it works out for you. Stay safe

 

[vapomike]

Eleaf iStick 50W VCT Pro Kit ⋆ MistHub

May I recommend this to you? Seriously... it's simple no batteries to take in and out, prebuilt coils, regulated, and SAFE. It'll chuck some good clouds for you. Because from your experience and what you have said you are not a competitive cloud chaser and don't know what you are doing. You have shown you don't really care to research the hazards and safety precautions to take to minimize those hazards. Yeah ohm's law and battery safety is boring. Everyone wants to know how to build a ~.1 coil and blow the big clouds. Knowing how to build that low and knowing what is a safe setup isn't something you ask on a forum. It's something you take time to research and learn. If something such as amp draw is confusing it's okay to ask for someone to explain it. But jumping right to hey how do I build this low or blow big clouds isn't something you ask. It's something you learn...