Burning Cartomisers? Dangerous?-510/Kr808/4081...etc filler type cartos

[Kent C]

Hey, thanks for the offer!
I'll just order a couple. I get my juice from Cignot (DK-Tab, Caramel, 555, all vg) anyway and I could use some more.
I assume they're going to be in the same ball park for ohms? I'll try them either way.

Scott and I got different measurements on the betas we got but close - I was at 2.3-2.4 and he was 2.4-2.6 iirc. Since I've gotten some 2.5's so right around there. HIGHLY suggest getting blanks. I never had a problem with the blanks or the batt connections, etc. But I've only had a handful of them. I have more in the white boxes I haven't touched or metered. Again, I prefer the atty/cart combos.

 

[ImYourSalt]

Bauway 510 carto (sample, so i only had one)
only holds 26 drops.
airy draw (though maybe better than BOGE)
little vapor
decent throat hit.
reminds me of the original KR cartos (a lot)!.
Not entirely satisfying.

truvapor 808d-1 3.3 ohm
bad gross fowl chemical burn flavor.... waste of juice. but that was just the first carto. I'm airing the rest out before i try that again! (also, im almost out of my 555, now [GRRRR], so may be a day or two before i test those out.)

[UPDATE]
The second one tasted fantastic! filled it up before bed, and was stoked about how well it was performing! Only took a couple puffs, then set it down. when i woke up and took a hit, it was burnt! severely....

Still to come....
XL Truvapor 510
and a GP 3Ω 510
(both are samples... so i only have 1 of each)

also been experiencing less-than-favorable performane from my TruVapor 510s.... i'm averaging about 25% failure rate on these.

[EDIT:]
3 more TruVapors' down.... 1 wouldnt thread proper. the other 2 had that same, "bad gross fowl chemical burn flavor...." as before. no bueno.

that's 5 TruVapor cartos down, out of my total order of 15. (and 5mls of juice, mind you)

 

[Lightgeoduck]

eGo cartomizers. There have been some QC issues with them, Zelda reported their bottoms falling out

Well that could be a positive .. if you want to do element maintenance on these


I should be getting my cignot order sometime next week (APO japan) takes a little longer (china orders hella quick though )

Anyway... I will create a thread and link ya to it.. primarily for the new Genuine 510 cartos, but the ego cartos as well.....

 

[Quick1]

I think I burnt out one of my cartos (@ 6v). 1 day vaping. I was wondering about that. The 510 atomizers I used for dripping would only last a day or maybe two and these were vaping pretty much the same (better actually). It's not completely burnt out but it's measuring 1.4 ohm... haha, walking wounded. It tripped the circuit on my batts and I haven't tried it at 3.7 yet. Figure I'll probably get a couple more puffs out of it.

But... that got me to try them at 3.7v. Astounding!! A solid 3 second drag at 3.7 is about exactly the same as a strong 1 second drag at 6v. Just amazing. Little difference in taste (fuller, richer but I'm accustomed to that sizzling scorched taste at 6v and like juice that takes to it).

So. I'm going to be vaping at 3.7 for a good while and see if the honeymoon lasts. I would go for times in the past with LR attys at 3.7 but they just didn't quite do the job. Tolerable but always lacking... and the LRs didn't last very long either. I switched mainly to 3.0 ohm cartomizers at 6v. They just never burn out -- 3.0 ohm 901s were ok but the cartridge didn't do it, dripping is not convenient a lot of the time and ... they burn out after 4 or 5 days too.

This could be the ticket for a long time. Last forever, battery lasts forever. I figure next year some time the E2s might be ready for prime time and I'll try those.

 

[nicnac]

Bauway 510 carto (sample, so i only had one)
only holds 26 drops.
airy draw (though maybe better than BOGE)
little vapor
decent throat hit.
reminds me of the original KR cartos (a lot)!.
Not entirely satisfying.

That sounds like something worth a try. I haven't tried mine yet. I think Katya gave it a good review also.

 

[Katya]

That sounds like something worth a try. I haven't tried mine yet. I think Katya gave it a good review also.

Yeah, my very first Bauway was good, my second one is fair. It seems to be a solid cartomizer, no burns, works well, but nothing extraordinary. I am very sensitive to off smells and tastes, and those don't taste all that clean. There's some harshness to them that makes me cranky. Recommended with reservations.

I figure next year some time the E2s might be ready for prime time and I'll try those.

How to make millions selling crappy cartomizers? Who needs R&D?

Sorry, I said I was cranky.

Bauway 510 carto (sample, so i only had one)
only holds 26 drops.
airy draw (though maybe better than BOGE)
little vapor
decent throat hit.
reminds me of the original KR cartos (a lot)!.
Not entirely satisfying.

truvapor 808d-1 3.3 ohm
bad gross fowl chemical burn flavor.... waste of juice. but that was just the first carto. I'm airing the rest out before i try that again! (also, im almost out of my 555, now [GRRRR], so may be a day or two before i test those out.)

[UPDATE]
The second one tasted fantastic! filled it up before bed, and was stoked about how well it was performing! Only took a couple puffs, then set it down. when i woke up and took a hit, it was burnt! severely....

also been experiencing less-than-favorable performane from my TruVapor 510s.... i'm averaging about 25% failure rate on these.

[EDIT:]
3 more TruVapors' down.... 1 wouldnt thread proper. the other 2 had that same, "bad gross fowl chemical burn flavor...." as before. no bueno.

that's 5 TruVapor cartos down, out of my total order of 15. (and 5mls of juice, mind you)

Hey, he's cranky too.

Ditto.

My XL 510 didn't fare all that well, either. First of all, I don't get the point of it being that long. It doesn't hold any more eliquid than a regular carto, maybe a few drops more, doesn't perform any better, and the length is just an annoyance. Not to mention that awful taste after just a few puffs. Yuck! I thought it was just the coil burning something off, but no, it was unvapable. Pristine filler, nasty burnt taste. So, thank you, Vapors Etc. for the the samples, but I don't think I'd be buying those. Bigger is not always better, after all.

Outstanding. Looks like raming a sharp into the filler might damage the coil if you bottomed out.
After a day I'm really thrilled with these. It IS just like dripping with a 510. And the build quality seems to be great (Joye) as well.

OK, so I finally broke down and ordered mine this morning. Those ladies at Cignot are truly amazing. I placed my order at 8:36 AM and received a shipping confirmation at 10:01 AM. Is this some kind of a record?

Have a great weekend, y'all.

 

[nicnac]

We should hire this guy to do reviews.
YouTube - DBSB

 

[ImYourSalt]

i have been using one of the 510 Tru-Vapor cartomizers for a couple days shy of one month now. It was still working fabulously, until moments ago.... I decided it's time for an autopsy.

I pulled the filler from the carto, and gave it a quick 2-3 second rinse. thats it.

when they work, they WORK!

I gonna try to put it back together. ill let you know how it goes

 

[Katya]

We should hire this guy to do reviews.
YouTube - DBSB

Yeah, that's exactly what we need.

i have been using one of the 510 Tru-Vapor cartomizers for a couple days shy of one month now. It was still working fabulously, until moments ago.... I decided it's time for an autopsy.

I pulled the filler from the carto, and gave it a quick 2-3 second rinse. thats it.

when they work, they WORK!

I gonna try to put it back together. ill let you know how it goes

Nice picture, Salt. Yeah, when they are good, they are good.

Did you manage to see if your carto has a vertical coil inside, like WW's picture here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...tem-808-dpv9-smoke51-etc-162.html#post1620612, or do they just a have a vertical wire like the kr808 cartos? There seems to be some inconsistency here. I'm wondering if Trueman has changed the design again. I loved those with the vertical coil.

 

[nicnac]

Yeah, that's exactly what we need.



Nice picture, Salt. Yeah, when they are good, they are good.

Did you manage to see if your carto has a vertical coil inside, like WW's picture here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...tem-808-dpv9-smoke51-etc-162.html#post1620612, or do they just a have a vertical wire like the kr808 cartos? There seems to be some inconsistency here. I'm wondering if Trueman has changed the design again. I loved those with the vertical coil.

I just took one of the new ones apart. it is a vertical coil (not wire).

 

[Katya]

I just took one of the new ones apart. it is a vertical coil (not wire).

Really? Thanks, Nic. I had one that looked like a kr808 carto--nothing but a straight wire running up the entire height of the batting and looping slightly over the top. No coil in sight. That's just too weird.

Oh well. But I'm glad you have a coil. This is good news. Or is it?

 

[nicnac]

Really? Thanks, Nic. I had one that looked like a kr808 carto--nothing but a straight wire running up the entire height of the batting and looping slightly over the top. No coil in sight. That's just too weird.

Oh well. But I'm glad you have a coil. This is good news. Or is it?

How did you access the coil? if you pull the coil out, the coil will straighten up. The only way you can see the coil in its original form is to break the carto chamber open. just like the ww pic.

 

[Katya]

How did you access the coil? if you pull the coil out, the coil will straighten up. The only way you can see the coil in its original form is to break the carto chamber open. just like the ww pic.

You don't want to know. Trust me. It wasn't pretty.

I'll do the surgery on my next one, promise.

 

[nicnac]

The problem i had with the ego cartos was the wetbox feeder needle would not pass through it
Does anybody know if the wetbox needle would clear the Joyetech cartos?

 

[Kent C]

The problem i had with the ego cartos was the wetbox feeder needle would not pass through it
Does anybody know if the wetbox needle would clear the Joyetech cartos?

Actually the mega eGo carto will fit on the wetbox if you cut off the skirt BUT the ohms are too low for the wetbox switch. I tried the Joye carto on the wetbox - and the build in the batt connection is such that the needle won't go straight through. I didn't try to force it - I had cut the carto open and the passage of the wires does a few turns to the coil which sits right on top of the batt connector. There's no straight through shot that I could see. It's all epoxy, I think and it's 'tiered'.

 

[Lightgeoduck]

OK, I just received my ego cartomizers AND my first pack of Genuine Joye cartos. I got prefilled of both and empties of the ego's, currently waiting on Genuine Joye empties shipment (split the orders because I wasn't sure at first if I would buy more, but then did )

I haven't opened the ego cartos yet, but I am currently trying s GenJoy Marl pre-fill...

First impression, excluding the expected bland taste of "stock" marl juice(IMO), I am liking it so far. I have been getting strictly juice taste(so far)

The tube is plastic type, but from Cozz's pics the connector up to the element is metal... (I will tear apart one day ) I will find out if this is either a problem or a blessing depending on what modding I want to do to it .

I haven't looked inside yet to see how it will be as far as filling goes but I did pop off the top cap with no problems.

I will create a thread and link it .. after I tinker around with it and go through at least one refill (of course updating as my experiences progress)
providing the regular info like ohm values of my cartos and such.

I sort of negative, but I heard about it before reading, is a drip tip won;t fit on these. I really wish they made it the same size dia. as the 510's I will in a moment see if a dumby 801 mouth piece will fit on it and be to my liking (even though this might not be necessary since the carto is pretty long anyway)

EDIT: looks like the same size as a 306 with mouthpiece

I am happy for one thing at the moment;My first impressions at least are that I didn't waste money and that I feel it was worth trying out... Now the important thing I have to wait on is if this will be part of my vape rotation.

 

[Katya]

Pictures or it didn't happen. A video is even better.

And LGD, I want my green grinning smiley back. And the blue winking one. Please, pretty. I'm speechless without them.

 

[nicnac]

Actually the mega eGo carto will fit on the wetbox if you cut off the skirt.

It does? I guess I got to give it another try. Last time I tried, I could not get the needle to clear. Something was blocking it.

 

[ImYourSalt]

Nice picture, Salt. Yeah, when they are good, they are good.

Did you manage to see if your carto has a vertical coil inside, like WW's picture here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...tem-808-dpv9-smoke51-etc-162.html#post1620612, or do they just a have a vertical wire like the kr808 cartos? There seems to be some inconsistency here. I'm wondering if Trueman has changed the design again. I loved those with the vertical coil.

Vertical.

I ordered this one 1 month ago today. I vaped it intermittently for the first week. And more heavily as time progressed. By the 4th week, it was my primary vape. I wish I hadn't disassembled it.

Oh, and the GP 3Ω carto you sent me, works great! no "meh" here! though that's exactly how i'd describe the Bauway you sent me.
this GP carto tastes a little different than the 2.5's from VaporsEtc. can't put my finger on 'how' it's different. it just is. but equally enjoyable. great vapor! maybe only slightly less of a TH than the VE version. but only slightly. like on a scale of 1-10, the TH would be 1/2 a point less. maybe 3/4.

 

[Kent C]

It does? I guess I got to give it another try. Last time I tried, I could not get the needle to clear. Something was blocking it.

I wouldn't force it but you might try just the slightest of angles and then only if it goes easily. I know from looking inside both the eGo and the new joye carto that (well, as far as the ones I had) the wetbox needle would have to make two turns to get to the polyfil and that isn't the case with the eGo carto....