Burning Cartomisers? Dangerous?-510/Kr808/4081...etc filler type cartos
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Hello...
No new cartos here. I'll likely be trading/selling/giving away my V3.5 XL's - I have 4 left (1 used). I like them but for the Wetbox I prefer the standard size - 3ml bottle, etc.
I have some new LR mega eGo atomizers on the way. And still enjoying the nhaler mega cartos 3.4ohm on the 5 volt. I did start another cylinder type eGo carto to replace the one I autopsied. The old one had a better draw :-\ The newer one is acting like the filler is compressed or something. Still better than a regular 510 for capacity though, but soon to be replaced with a modded cylinder atty/cart.
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Dr. Cuddy: Just let (Wilson) in.
House: No! He's like a stray... he'll eat everything, shed all over the place, and crap on the floor.
No new cartos here. I'll likely be trading/selling/giving away my V3.5 XL's - I have 4 left (1 used). I like them but for the Wetbox I prefer the standard size - 3ml bottle, etc.
I have some new LR mega eGo atomizers on the way. And still enjoying the nhaler mega cartos 3.4ohm on the 5 volt. I did start another cylinder type eGo carto to replace the one I autopsied. The old one had a better draw :-\ The newer one is acting like the filler is compressed or something. Still better than a regular 510 for capacity though, but soon to be replaced with a modded cylinder atty/cart. ----
Dr. Cuddy: Just let (Wilson) in.
House: No! He's like a stray... he'll eat everything, shed all over the place, and crap on the floor.
Let us know what they say please!
Somehow in my travels I've run across this site before, probably because he's in the same state as me. I thought maybe it was mentioned in the vaping in Phoenix forum but I don't see anything in there now. Wish I could remember.
Hard to say exactly but they look like the standard ones like GP carries from the photo.
They have 4081 bats in colors too!
It scares me that they don't mention shipping costs on the site.
Oh Katya's the naughty one around here
I've got to leave before she comes back and reads this.
Yeah, right.
This is so funny. All that the fillerless cartos need to be perfect is ... a little filler!
Really? You agree with me?
*perk*
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Cameron: Men should grow up.
House: Yeah, and dogs should stop licking themselves. It's not gonna happen.
The shipping is $4.95. [They have two options: USPS Priority $4.95 or USPS Priority $4.95.] Really! You get to choose.
Here's what they wrote: the kr808 cartos are Kanger; the 510 & 4081 are made by Tuofan, both have a 2.4Ω reading. I do agree with you that the 4081s look very much like the 2.5Ω ones from GP. But I'm really curious about the 510s because I love the 2.4Ω on my Riva. Did you like the GP 2.5Ω? It might be just a bit low for my SS batteries. The 3.0Ω GP cartos work quite nicely. I agree with Salt about the SS cartos; they are undestructible, but I wish their resistance were just a tad lower; 3.4-3.5Ω is really HR, as cartos go.
Here's the link to the info I found about the company and the cartos.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...1-batts-would-like-info-mods.html#post1992773
no I don't
my OCD prevents me from doing soHey Zelda.. thanks for the comment a few posts back
br .. I am still waiting on some of your own created threads sharing your work....
hi lgd, may i very politely disagree?
NOBODY who is truely on top of things would have stood by and let our blue winky disappear without a fight, lol
one little blurp in your signature is NOT enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tib just because I don't miss anything,,, doesn't mean I have control of everything ... but I can influence when needed
I added an extra blurp for you
its not what you think
... but I can influence when needed I added an extra blurp for you
its not what you think
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thanks for the blurp, lgd
but you know how angus is with blurps, lol, our chances are slim to none!
but you know how angus is with blurps, lol, our chances are slim to none!
no I don't
Hey Zelda.. thanks for the comment a few posts back
br .. I am still waiting on some of your own created threads sharing your work....
Anytime LGD. My pleasure.
It works for me. Don't know what it will do for someone else. I don't think anyone on the 'other' thread paid attention long enough to try it.
To tell you the truth LGD, I don't believe anyone else would be interested in my contraptions.
A little filler. that's the trick to any carto.
Re: Boge LR cartos from LiteCig. These are actually very good quality cartos. The wick is highly burn resistant. The only issue with them is too much filler.
Re: Boge LR cartos from LiteCig. These are actually very good quality cartos. The wick is highly burn resistant. The only issue with them is too much filler.
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I'll pick USPS priority for $4.95 thanks!
Those standard Kanger 808s are the worst. They burn in no time. If I can buy them cheap, I'll use them for testing a new DIY juice (cuz I'm not sure sure if I'll like it enough to waste a whole new carto that's a good one).
On sale at GP, the 4081s end up cheaper because of shipping. I like the 2.5. I had posted before that I used those on a 901 bat and that keeps them cooler. I THINK the 901 runs at 3.1. I also like the 3's he carries and I run those on an 808 3.7.
I might pick up a pack or two though because those colored 4081 and 808 bats are calling my name. They are hard to find other than V4L.
I've gone through several packs of these and found them to be quite burn resistant...as burn resistant as V9 and V4L CC. They don't have as much filler though so the downside is they don't hold as much juice. But the upside is, on sale, they are cheaper.
SS blanks would send me in their direction but I cannot stand the prefilled stuff. I don't like washing cartos because I always fear it will ruin them. So I just blow it out the best I can and fill with something really strong, hoping to negate the tobacco taste.
FYI
LeCig is coming out with 808 D-2 cartos made in the US in November. They'll have adaptors for 808D-1.
LeCig is coming out with 808 D-2 cartos made in the US in November. They'll have adaptors for 808D-1.
i second boge cartomizers. I have never had a burnt one (unless my switch stuck for an extended period of time, i really should get around to replacing it). Additionally, they seem to wick a whole lot better too. I can take hit after hit at 5.5 volts, and never get a burnt taste until the carto is dry, but with the SLB's, i can only take 2 or 3 drags, then I have to wait for a minute or two.
FWIW, boge is a subsidiary of dekang
FWIW, boge is a subsidiary of dekang
Hi Kent! I've missed you!
Where did you get the mega LR ego cartos btw?
Hi zelda. I got the LR mega eGo attys (not cartos) from Totally Wicked. 1.5Ω and do just fine on the eGo. (unless you're Katya, who seems to not like it so hot...). BTW, heaven gifts has drip tips for the eGo now too -type A and B (ie cylinder and cone/atty). I grabbed a few on my last order (actually today) but I'll likely not use them much. Defeats the whole 'bigger cart' deal. But good for drippers....
I'm going to have to check on the E2's to see what version they're on now
and whether there is a variety of ohmmmmmmmsa. Later....
Ahh you mentioned that before and it completely slipped my mind. Thanks Kent
I began using a new E2 a few days ago. Didn't know what revision it was, but it has a black wrapper and the resistance measured 3.0Ω. All I did was take it out of the wrapper and filled it up according to the silly little instruction card. It took right at 1.5mg to fill it to the bottom of the cup. Since then, I have been vaping it at various voltages without any modifications. All voltage measurements were made under load while the cartomizer was in actual use. Most tests were made with the battery pointed down in order to monitor the actual wicking capabilities.
On a 510 battery, the taste was bad on the first vape and it didn't get much better until it was refilled. The taste was normal when refilled. Other than that, this particular example was good to excellent on all other tests. Most importantly, there were no leaks when used or stored in any position.
Most tests were done at 2.8, 3.1, and 3.7 volts. On each of these voltages, the taste did not change until the reservoir was vaped dry. As a matter of fact, at 2.8 volts the vapor dropped completely off before a taste change was noted. For a minute there, I thought the coil had burned out.
My juice begins to be bruised at anything over 3.7 volts at 3Ω. Therefore, I did not do any extensive tests above this voltage. At 4.2 volts, the wick does not run dry with a full reservoir or thereabouts, but I do not know if it will begin running dry before it is empty.
At 5 volts, I know that the wick runs dry with the reservoir level at about half, because that's where is was when I cranked the voltage up to there. The burn in the roof of my mouth was more like hot smoke than vapor. After a juice top off it was more like vapor than smoke, but the taste was so bad that it was difficult to tell what was what. At that point I began dripping with Nhaler Octane, which does well at this power. I suppose it would wick well enough with a full tank of this juice, but I wasn't insane enough to test it long enough to find out how far down the level would be before the wick began drying out. Some of you tough kids can go crazy if you want to with an insane amount of vapor and TH, but I'm old enough to use a little common sense.
After about 10 or 12 refills, the performance dropped off a good bit. I compared it with a Boge 510 Mega cartomizer from Nnaler. An A-B comparison between the two revealed that they performed about the same (I like the open draw of the Boge better). Therefore, it was time to rejuvenate the coil.
So up until this point, I did not know what version was being tested. I didn't find out until I removed the filler ring to burn off the coil. I could see right off that there was no shrink wrap on the top part of the cup, meaning that it has to be a .......ized version. A probe in the dark innards indicated that there may be a certain amount of polyfil down in there. I did not feel anything at the base to indicate hot glue or silicone.
After a dry burn, the performance was restored and it works like an E2 instead of a cartomizer. I am using it now with my custom made filler tip, which replaces all removable parts inside. This doesn't make it work any better. It just makes it a whole lot quicker and easier to refill.
If all of the .......ized versions worked as well as this one, then the only complaint I have is the nasty on the first fill up. As long as it works well and the taste is good, I don't care about what it looks like inside.
However, I will probably put this one aside for a while and test a full blown Revision 4. More than likely it will be a KR808 at about 3Ω resistance.
On a 510 battery, the taste was bad on the first vape and it didn't get much better until it was refilled. The taste was normal when refilled. Other than that, this particular example was good to excellent on all other tests. Most importantly, there were no leaks when used or stored in any position.
Most tests were done at 2.8, 3.1, and 3.7 volts. On each of these voltages, the taste did not change until the reservoir was vaped dry. As a matter of fact, at 2.8 volts the vapor dropped completely off before a taste change was noted. For a minute there, I thought the coil had burned out.
My juice begins to be bruised at anything over 3.7 volts at 3Ω. Therefore, I did not do any extensive tests above this voltage. At 4.2 volts, the wick does not run dry with a full reservoir or thereabouts, but I do not know if it will begin running dry before it is empty.
At 5 volts, I know that the wick runs dry with the reservoir level at about half, because that's where is was when I cranked the voltage up to there. The burn in the roof of my mouth was more like hot smoke than vapor. After a juice top off it was more like vapor than smoke, but the taste was so bad that it was difficult to tell what was what. At that point I began dripping with Nhaler Octane, which does well at this power. I suppose it would wick well enough with a full tank of this juice, but I wasn't insane enough to test it long enough to find out how far down the level would be before the wick began drying out. Some of you tough kids can go crazy if you want to with an insane amount of vapor and TH, but I'm old enough to use a little common sense.
After about 10 or 12 refills, the performance dropped off a good bit. I compared it with a Boge 510 Mega cartomizer from Nnaler. An A-B comparison between the two revealed that they performed about the same (I like the open draw of the Boge better). Therefore, it was time to rejuvenate the coil.
So up until this point, I did not know what version was being tested. I didn't find out until I removed the filler ring to burn off the coil. I could see right off that there was no shrink wrap on the top part of the cup, meaning that it has to be a .......ized version. A probe in the dark innards indicated that there may be a certain amount of polyfil down in there. I did not feel anything at the base to indicate hot glue or silicone.
After a dry burn, the performance was restored and it works like an E2 instead of a cartomizer. I am using it now with my custom made filler tip, which replaces all removable parts inside. This doesn't make it work any better. It just makes it a whole lot quicker and easier to refill.
If all of the .......ized versions worked as well as this one, then the only complaint I have is the nasty on the first fill up. As long as it works well and the taste is good, I don't care about what it looks like inside.
However, I will probably put this one aside for a while and test a full blown Revision 4. More than likely it will be a KR808 at about 3Ω resistance.
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