Burning Cartomisers? Dangerous?-510/Kr808/4081...etc filler type cartos

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A bit off topic but if anyone is wondering about the new tankomizer.

Just saw this well written post by Arjay on the new tankomizers http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/cartomizer-issues/142133-tankomizers-if-only-they-worked.html
Badkolo sent some Tankomizers to me for testing. Surprisingly, this little thing works well with my juice, which is pretty thin. Anything thicker and it is almost useless. The most surprising thing about it is that it has a 4Ω atty that gives off plenty of vapor on a 3.1 volt 510 battery. The tank is inside a 306 blank, so it doesn't hold very much. They are way over priced though, and I wouldn't even think about buying them.
 

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Regarding the 808's I got from Ross...finished one and took it apart. 6 ml of juice and it's almost pristine. It is vertical after all...the wires were hiding in a different construction. They are not visible from the top.

I'll try to take pictures and post tomorrow. I've never seen one built this way before.

The second one I tried was a dud. Bummer.

Are those the tru-KR808D-1 cartos? I wonder if he can get them in 510s. But again God knows what the 510 version would be like. 8-o
 

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1. New carto. Note large airhole.
2. Hard to see but on the bottom is a plastic pointed receptacle (see 4 and 5). The wires come through two small holes. This cap probably helps to keep juice from leaking out.
3. The receptacle is pulled out.
4 and 5. The receptacle.

More on next post.

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6. The filler with guts inside.
7. Filler removed revealing "sock". This was used with 6 ml of juice and not washed. Note how clean it is.
8. The sock removed. This was the only part that showed any signs of use.

Now here's the kicker. I yanked the guts out so things can get considerably rearranged in terms of how the actual coil lies. When I pulled it, it was vertical; Ross says it's horizontal and shared some 510 pics and I take him at his words since he had it cut open and not yanked out.

Which ever way the actual coil lies, I am very happy with this carto. To have vaped 6 ml of juice and have it look this clean is unheard of for me.

In any case, the coil in this one is in the usual spot near the top of the carto, not at the bottom.

He also says he has 4081's in.:)
 

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A bit off topic but if anyone is wondering about the new tankomizer.

Just saw this well written post by Arjay on the new tankomizers http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/cartomizer-issues/142133-tankomizers-if-only-they-worked.html

Hi Salt:wub::wub: You dind't forget me.

Hi Katya Yes I'm still around.:p

Oh, hi, Zelda! Sorry, I didn't recognize you with your clothes on! :p

Badkolo sent some Tankomizers to me for testing. Surprisingly, this little thing works well with my juice, which is pretty thin. Anything thicker and it is almost useless. The most surprising thing about it is that it has a 4Ω atty that gives off plenty of vapor on a 3.1 volt 510 battery. The tank is inside a 306 blank, so it doesn't hold very much. They are way over priced though, and I wouldn't even think about buying them.

Funny thing, those tankomizers. Here's a thread about the new eGo-T that uses them. It's made in Italy, supposedly by Janty, but nobody knows for sure. When you look carefully on the Ovale website, there are some pictures of the tankomizers, but not too many.

The good news is, IMO, that the concept of a fillerless cartomizer is catching on, and sooner or later somebody will introduce one that actually works out of the box. This tankomizer really looks like a mini BR mod. I'm hopeful. There's been talk on the Janty forum that they are about to introduce something that will "change the way we vape." Tesla filter? Tankomizer? Who knows. But I'm optimistic. The guy or gal who brings a truly nonburning cartomizer to the market will be very rich, indeed.

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Zero leak, even with topping off.

Very easy draw. No snap, crackle, pop. Huge clouds of vapor.

I like 'em!

Neo, I'm impressed. Great autopsy and pictures! Interesting. I've never seen a bottom plug like this, have you? Do they taste clean? I'd order some, but my kr8 hardware is on its last legs.

So the new 4081s are supposed to be the same design? I remember Truman's 4081s had a cup on the bottom with two small holes for the wires, but I don't recall the little nub, or whatever that thing is. I think the 4081 cups were flat on the bottom.
 
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That is one nicely put together (well now its apart, of course) carto. It seems some thought and effort went into the design. Thanks for the autopsy, Neo.

That is the type of carto I could recommend to a friend (if I had any haha) even though its a filler type. Fill and vape. Great for newbies as well. Just hope the quality control lasts for more than a shipment or two as seems to be the case recently.
 

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That is one nicely put together (well now its apart, of course) carto. It seems some thought and effort went into the design. Thanks for the autopsy, Neo.

That is the type of carto I could recommend to a friend (if I had any haha) even though its a filler type. Fill and vape. Great for newbies as well. Just hope the quality control lasts for more than a shipment or two as seems to be the case recently.

So are the cartos we're talking about here the ones listed at vapors etc as 3.3 ohm HR Tru? Has anyone else tried them yet and confirmed their non-burningness?
 

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Kodos, the only nonburning cartos I know of are the E2s. Every cartomizer with polyfill will burn, eventually. If they didn't, this thread would be out of business. What we're trying to find here are the cartos that are burn proof under normal operating conditions, that is when they are kept wet at all times and used at correct wattage. Cartos are disposable. I expect a good cartomizer to handle at least 5-7 ml of juice without diminishing or altering the flavor, scorching or tightening the draw. That's really all a disposable carto is capable of delivering. After multiple refills, the crud begins to accumulate on the heating coil and there's very little one can do about that. Some people clean their cartos, I don't. But that's a matter of personal preference.

I have not tested those 3.3Ω Tru-kr808 cartomizers myself, but if Neo likes them, they must be good. But even if they work for her, they may not be to your liking. Just order a box and take them for a spin. That would be my advice.

BTW, how are the latest Turbos? Have you tried them yet?
 

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No, I've never seen a cup like that. The vape is clean and tasted good to the end...look at how clean that stuffing is. I did not wash it. That's how it came out. Unreal.

I do not know if the 4081's are the same design or not. I would assume not because he said they are NOT from Trueman. They are horizontal though and 3.4-3.6 ohm. I'll be trying them.

At the risk of not having any left for me to buy, he's through with Trueman as you can't count on getting what you order. So when these are gone, he's looking elsewhere.
 

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At the risk of not having any left for me to buy, he's through with Trueman as you can't count on getting what you order. So when these are gone, he's looking elsewhere.

I don't blame him for doing that. He (we) got stock with some bad 510s on the last batch.
I don't own an 808 device. If I did, I would garb them before he runs out.
 

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Kodos, the only nonburning cartos I know of are the E2s. Every cartomizer with polyfill will burn, eventually. If they didn't, this thread would be out of business.

Right, I understand all that... "non-burningness" was just intended as shorthand for "good burn-resistance, relative to other filler-based cartos"

BTW, how are the latest Turbos? Have you tried them yet?

Yeah, I currently have both them and my E2s in rotation. The turbos seem to perform basically the same as my old V4L coolcarts, at least at this point. My plan is currently to run them till end-of-life, then dissect a couple each of the turbos and the coolcarts and compare them for signs of scorching... until I do that though, I can't really say much definitive about them.

As it stands right now, I'm still in love with the way my E2s perform, when they're working.... but keeping them working is enough of a hassle that I think I still need to find a good burn-resistant filler carto I like, just to tide me over until the remaining issues have been worked out of the E2s.
 

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Hi Salt:wub::wub: You dind't forget me.

How could I forget those LEGS ??? :hubba::w00t::hubba:

Have you seen this new product called Crackomizers? it is on beta stage right now and is only available on the street corners (between 11 PM & 5 AM).

But where do whe get the C-liquid :lol:

Neo, I'm impressed. Great autopsy and pictures! Interesting. I've never seen a bottom plug like this, have you? Do they taste clean? I'd order some, but my kr8 hardware is on its last legs.

I got a kr8 P/T from Heaven-Gifts. It's yours if you want it!

So are the cartos we're talking about here the ones listed at vapors etc as 3.3 ohm HR Tru? Has anyone else tried them yet and confirmed their non-burningness?

I tried em! They are pretty good. But 3.3 is a little far north for my liking. I don't think I ever burned one, But I don't think I ever used them that much either.

But a 3Ω carto, at 6v on my GG, is quite the hit! Pretty much cut my nic density in half.

(I'd post a pic, but AT&T isn't in the mood. I can make phone calls, but that's about it... If Verizon offers an iPhone next month, I'm jumping ship.)

I don't own an 808 device. If I did, I would garb them before he runs out.

Sorry... I only have 1 p/t :facepalm:

Those Trueman's don't thread well on My RIVA 901s. Neither do the Boge 808d-1's. Can't really figure it out. But the KR brand seem to thread fine :confused:
 
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