I must have a dud. I ordered ONE just to try. It gives little or no vapor, and I have to suck on it like I'm sucking a thick milkshake through a straw.
I've done everything to make it better. No go. I give up. I use the mega/xl cartos and love them!
Burning Cartomisers? Dangerous?-510/Kr808/4081...etc filler type cartos
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I must have a dud. I ordered ONE just to try. It gives little or no vapor, and I have to suck on it like I'm sucking a thick milkshake through a straw.
I've done everything to make it better. No go. I give up. I use the mega/xl cartos and love them!
Oh, the good old QC problems.
Reminds me of our reviews of the eGo mega and genuine Joyetech cartomizers. Great taste, but lots of complaints about cartos falling apart, leaking, not lasting long, and being a major PITA to refill. So, here we go again? Why can't they just make it right? A 30-dollar atomizer should work flawlessly, IMO. Or come with a very solid warranty.
ournature:Kent, did you checked the rubber cap had the two 'snags' lined with the tank air channels when you put it in place?
Also the plastic cap has to be in place of course...but i guess you did it, right?
ournature, I would like to say yes, but I can't with certainty. It is the first thing I thought of after I took off the rubber cap... but AFTER I took it off. Next time - and I plan on trying it again (first without a plug) and putting it in a bowl instead on my nice oak side table... and making sure the two 'bumps' align...
I did this - aligned the inside bumps with the air channels and no leaking.
I was thinking they meant the mega attys (the $8 ones. But still... : ) not the tank, but you may be right.
Read it and weep... 36 euros in Italy.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...139915-new-ego-tank-system-4.html#post2241427
I should have been clearer. By 'they' I meant Ardeagold comments, who I subsequently found out was a women
I know the price of the tank is up there....
HA! I was right, we may have all been forgetting the system and concentrating on just one variable. Or maybe I've missed it. Has anyone compared the amperage under load between different cartos? See my feedback thread for more details.
I did. Above my pay grade. I have a degree in fine arts. You need our resident sciency guys.
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I hear you. History, prelaw, philosophy, english lit, no hard sciences beyond the core credits, which I filled with geology. I'm a fan and admirer of science, but I know I don't have the education to do it myself as much as I try to always at least apply it's broad methods.. I always give full credit to the engineers I work with for everything they bring to life for me. I'm smart enough to know how little of it I really understand, and just how hard it all really is to do right.
But I read here, listen to the engineers, and learn whatever I can, because nothing stays above my paygrade. Can't let it be and still do my best.
(Oh, and that's personal philosophy, not business related discussion.
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Ohm's law: current(Amps) = Voltage / Resistance(ohms) <- this equation MUST be satisified (or you're in a different universe)
For a given voltage, current varies directly proportional to resistance.
For a given resistance, current varies directly proportional to voltage.
The resistance is fixed and can be measured independently.
Now you have to look at what current the battery is capable of supplying. If everybody used the same battery you could quantify this and the variance in wattage over a range of resistance.
But we don't all use the same batteries so we go by resistance. I know that with my mods there is a distinct difference in my vaping experience with a 0.3Ω change in resistance. For example I can tell the difference between a cart with 2.1Ω and a cart with 2.4Ω (same model cart, same juice, etc). That 0.3Ω difference would be acceptable as long as I'm not at one end or the other of my range. A 0.5Ω difference maybe not so acceptable. More than that would be completely unacceptable.
So when I try a atty/cart and like it I will pick the model with the resistance that suits my setup and preferences. If it varies outside of some tolerance then I'm unhappy or it's unacceptable for my use. About a year ago I used to use Joye 510 atomizers. They consistently came in at 2.2-2.4Ω. When I would get a rare one at 2.6Ω I could very much tell the difference (with my pv and battery). 2.8Ω was basically unusable for me (with my pv and battery).
Yes, the system must be taken as a whole but each of us is using their same pv with the same battery in it. What varies is the resistance of the carto and for a given carto there is some preferred resistance and some acceptable range from that preference. I think most people would say they have about a 1.5Ω tolerance either side of their preferred resistance (for some particular model of atty/carto).
Comparing the amperage under load between cartos would only make sense if the cartos varied their resistance in response to heat at the coil maybe.
I checked out your feedback thread and read Quick1s dissertation(s) & I have to agree.
Leaford, your engineer needs to listen more & talk less if for no other reason that to sell more product as in cartos-only. I want to know the resistance and need it to fall within an acceptable tolerance of the published number or I wont buy them. Simple. His preferred side of the equation is moot.
Or you can talk to the sales & marketing dept and have them lower the price of the system so the whole thing would be attractive to me but the QC of acceptable tolerance really ends up equally important here.
I also dont understand the but only if he can fix it on the manufacturing side thing. Thats exactly where it should be fixed, and he shouldnt accept otherwise. The test & sorters should have little to sort if production is doing its job correctly.
What Im learning here (and there) isnt causing the warm & fuzzies ya know?
This is wise beyond the science (although still part of it, of course). I've mentioned before, the difference in the mega eGo attys/cartos in terms of 'mass' being the difference outside of ohm's law where the draw, vapor and flavor seem to be 'bigger' even though the wattage may be the same as in a regular 510 or other pv with the same combination of Volts and ohms. And while comments of Katya with regards to the XL may seem contrary to this, iow 'longer carto body/less performance' - the components - atty, bridge, metal mesh are also larger along with the body in the mega eGo attys/carts. I'm still puzzled by it
but your 'system view' is close to explaining what I've experienced.Im back....
Lots of catching up! I like it!
Thanks to everyone who kept this machine humming. BR, Quick, Tib, Scott, Kent, Katya, Leafy, et al. (forgive me if i didnt say your name.. im exhausted, to say the least) And it;s nice to see LK stopping by!
I havnt said much about the bloogs. I have been using a SmokeStik battery, with some BOGE 2ohm cartos, and loving it. Batteries are holding up fine. I havnt noticed any drop in performance. The only reason I bring that up, is that I like the draw better on those batteries, than on my KR808d-1 auto battery, and have been favoring that set up. Definitely gonna grab some more bloog cartos. I have been impressed so far. Though... Im still very pleased with the Boge cartos, and dont have any complaints.
Te bloogs are, by first inclination, better. I like BR's pics! Hadnt pulled one apart yet, and am very intrigued by the design. I like it.
Might grab a bloog battery or two to try out. Though, i'd like to hear if they are in faact true 3.7 like the KR's...
Happy new year everyone! I wish you all the best! And will go shopping for some new sunglasses!
-Ty
Lots of catching up! I like it!
Thanks to everyone who kept this machine humming. BR, Quick, Tib, Scott, Kent, Katya, Leafy, et al. (forgive me if i didnt say your name.. im exhausted, to say the least) And it;s nice to see LK stopping by!
I havnt said much about the bloogs. I have been using a SmokeStik battery, with some BOGE 2ohm cartos, and loving it. Batteries are holding up fine. I havnt noticed any drop in performance. The only reason I bring that up, is that I like the draw better on those batteries, than on my KR808d-1 auto battery, and have been favoring that set up. Definitely gonna grab some more bloog cartos. I have been impressed so far. Though... Im still very pleased with the Boge cartos, and dont have any complaints.
Te bloogs are, by first inclination, better. I like BR's pics! Hadnt pulled one apart yet, and am very intrigued by the design. I like it.
Might grab a bloog battery or two to try out. Though, i'd like to hear if they are in faact true 3.7 like the KR's...
Happy new year everyone! I wish you all the best! And will go shopping for some new sunglasses!
-Ty
Thanks for all the info. I just learned how to find my posts to read replies, so forgive the delay. Bingo; I ordered the Joye Ego and it is great. My husband also gave me the Boge Leo as a gift a few day's ago. If there's a Vape Heaven, I'm there! Can't say enough about these two. I am totally enjoying my vaping experience. Like most people I didn't know what to order at first ,so I ordered what seemed to be the easiest pv, a 2 piece (cartomizer and batt). Well I'm not going to revisit that nightmare! I'm very happy with my Ego and Leo.Vaping is so much better with an atomizer. I also like to drip now, when I'm @ home, and use my ego w/ cart when I'm on the go. There's a video on You Tube by Doctor Vapor (who is awesome) that taught me how to take care of my big batt pv's, so if anyone else is having trouble I would recommend him. He's very informative. Thanks again!
hmmm....
they make cartos that pretty much work now. See Bloog, and Boge.
But if atties make you happy, i think you are in the wrong thread
glad you are finding your way! safe to assume you kicked the smokes?
they make cartos that pretty much work now. See Bloog, and Boge.
But if atties make you happy, i think you are in the wrong thread
glad you are finding your way! safe to assume you kicked the smokes?
True 3.7v, 300+ mAh, holding one in my hands right now
Thanks! and reasonably priced too! For some reason I thought Bloog was more like SS or SE or something, in terms of pricing. I can spare 14 bucks on a new cigarette!
What's the deal with them? Are they better than the standard KR version? And what is the listed mAh? I didn't see it on the site?
(I'll copy this to Leaford's thread, so he can have a chance to answer)
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