Well, as usual I was late 2:18PM cst. Were there any ammendments, or did the bill go to cluture as is. Any other changes? Thanks
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If it passed (I wasn't able to watch today's coverage) it'll have to go to the president to be signed first. Then there'll be a period when the FDA formulates policy around e-cigarettes before a blanket ban can take effect. Additionally, there are likely to be legal challenges to the legislation from the main importers. I could be wrong, but I think we'll have a period of a few weeks or months before anything changes. If anyone has more insight on the topic, I'd love to hear it.
So, no amendments emerged from the debate (as of yet)? Too bad.
This thing is going to pass like grass through a goose. It was Ted Kennedy's pet project and there are far too many Senators who are unwilling to vote against anything that appears to attack smokers, even though the Feds make money off of smoking hand over fist.
Looks to me like the fight is going to have to change now. The idea that the FDA may ban e-cigarettes but continue to allow traditional analogues is flatly absurd. It puts the agency in a very tenuous position. I fully expect some pretty aggressive challenges if they throw a ban down. It appears that these things could save tens of thousands of lives, if not more, while the sanctioned cigarettes continue to kill hundreds of thousands every year. I don't think e-smoking is going to go down without a fight.
I thought McCain gave a great speech today. It was more about prescription drug imports from Canada than anything else, but I thought he did great.
I'll be waiting for that vote at 5:30
I'll be waiting for that vote at 5:30
"400k Americans Die from Tobacco..."
Yup, and a bit above 300k die from Obesity each year... /ponder...wonder what will be taxed next.
Edit: Forgot NY Already is getting a jump on this.
Yup, and a bit above 300k die from Obesity each year... /ponder...wonder what will be taxed next.
Edit: Forgot NY Already is getting a jump on this.
ok shes kinda ticking me off....lets force everyone to quit smoking and use the money for other stuff...um ok but how shes talking about what smoking does to people what the money can be used for but how is she going to help the smokers quit?
i thought i heard somewhere they will be putting higher tax's on sugar products as well...
Listening to this is infuriating---
"Imagine if we took the 96 Billion dollars (completely distorted and probably arbitrary number) spent on tobacco-related health care each year and used it to insure the millions of Americans who are uninsured"
Oh yeah? Just like that?! WOW. She makes it sound like transferring money from one bank account to the next. I can't stand when politicians throw around imaginary numbers like that...
All these people are doing are using fear mongering tactics directed at the emotions.
"WITHOUT ANY GOVERNMENT REGULATION. CAN YOU IMAGINE?"
No Woman---I cannot imagine ANYTHING not being regulated by this pushy overbearing government...
"Imagine if we took the 96 Billion dollars (completely distorted and probably arbitrary number) spent on tobacco-related health care each year and used it to insure the millions of Americans who are uninsured"
Oh yeah? Just like that?! WOW. She makes it sound like transferring money from one bank account to the next. I can't stand when politicians throw around imaginary numbers like that...
All these people are doing are using fear mongering tactics directed at the emotions.
"WITHOUT ANY GOVERNMENT REGULATION. CAN YOU IMAGINE?"
No Woman---I cannot imagine ANYTHING not being regulated by this pushy overbearing government...
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"Tobacco smoking is the leading preventable cause of death"...
...but we won't allow you to use a certain way to prevent it as we haven't figured out an excuse to tax it. Brilliant.
Control, control, control.
...but we won't allow you to use a certain way to prevent it as we haven't figured out an excuse to tax it. Brilliant.
Control, control, control.
with scarcassism on my part she walked right around e-cigarettes like we are not here...
im a member of blah blah blah and everyone says that blah blah blah money blah blah blah and smokers blah blah blah...
sooooooo anyone heard at all how to help the smokers? i guess they figure tax the chit out of it all and then smokers will quit...and is it going to be tobacco, nic, ciggs, chew, snus, vape all being affected?
sooooooo anyone heard at all how to help the smokers? i guess they figure tax the chit out of it all and then smokers will quit...and is it going to be tobacco, nic, ciggs, chew, snus, vape all being affected?
sorry she got me a tad worked up as she had nothing whatsoever to say that was relevent to anything. ok yeah lets take the money from here put it here and smokers are horrible people and medicade medicare the va...um wait a sec dont' knwo the numbers but didn't back in the day the government give the soldiers as part of their rations cigs to smoke? so the va and medicade and medicare should be responsible to help people. and if heath insurance weren't so freakin high people would be able to get the help.... goes to say too that tons of insurance every day is spent on people getting into car accidents but she didn't say take away everyones cars did she? lol AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH OK im done my rant thank you for reading...lol
Here is the Senate's discussion list for the upcoming months: get your popcorn ready...
People die from food-we should ban food
People die from water-we should ban water
People die from cars-we should ban cars
Planes crash-we should ban planes
Boats sink-we should ban boats
People die from fire-we should ban fire
People die from each other-we should ban people
People die from food-we should ban food
People die from water-we should ban water
People die from cars-we should ban cars
Planes crash-we should ban planes
Boats sink-we should ban boats
People die from fire-we should ban fire
People die from each other-we should ban people
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