Can any one simplify the YiHi joules temp control

[Marc411]

My request of Yihi for information was partially answered.... The warranty questions were addressed but none of the questions about joules (temp control). I am gonna guess that this J chipset will be doing a similar function and process as other (evolv) TC chipsets and will await a valid explanation as to how joules is used in TC..

Are you going to share with the class Sir?

Evolv replaces problem boards under warranty. Evolv boards are not intended to be reprogrammed. Evolv has NEVER done anything via firmware for the purpose of selling more boards to people who already own the board.

They are currently one of the few that doesn't offer upgrades or fixes, you must send your new units in for repair. I had issues with two separate chips and the delay getting them back was an issue and the lack of correspondence once they had your unit was another.

Having to pay a couple hundred dollars for a good dna device and then being without it without any feedback is a problem. An just my opinion poor customer service.

It appears to me that there is a group that will promote the Evolv TP at any cost. Competition will breed innovation and that's what this industry needs right now. The more devices that can offer a safer vaping environment the tougher it will be to demonize vaping. We would be better served to find the positives regardless of the manufacturers then to assume something is not going to work or have a poor design prior to the release. Other then the Beta testers nobody else knew squat until the DNA chip was released. It's great that Yihi announced this innovation to the public.

 

[retird]

Are you going to share with the class Sir?

Answer : The warranty is one year for the device and half year for the chipset.

In your last post you edited me and created an incorrect quote... please correct... thx...

 

[KenD]

Yihi boards are known for their ability to be usb updated so I ponder why a new chipset is needed to use joules to do Temp Control? They say they are doing TC with joules with this new J chipset.. Why is the firmware not just updated?

I know absolutely nothing about yihi chips, and very little about electronics, so this is just an uneducated guess. Couldn't it be that new/different components are needed? Seems like the most logical answer to me.

 

[bilboda]

If joules change in response to the resistance change that occurs with temp change and it can be measured in milliseconds than you will have something that can be monitored to measure theoretical temperatures. If the voltage changes (it does) when achieving certain watts, you could also monitor voltage to determine the theoretical temperature. I admit I haven't thought thru the calculation for joules. Watts are calculated from amps and resistance. Watts over time will give you joules. I am baffled. The resistance is key but possibly something in the complicated calculation is inverted or even perverted and used to determine temp from joules........They are either smarter than the rest of us or this is just marketing flash and sizzle...... I stopped my education with ergs, I think I threw the book at the professor when he introduced joules....

 

[dr g]

It appears to me that there is a group that will promote the Evolv TP at any cost. Competition will breed innovation and that's what this industry needs right now. The more devices that can offer a safer vaping environment the tougher it will be to demonize vaping. We would be better served to find the positives regardless of the manufacturers then to assume something is not going to work or have a poor design prior to the release. Other then the Beta testers nobody else knew squat until the DNA chip was released. It's great that Yihi announced this innovation to the public.

And it appears that there is a group that will denigrate Evolv at any chance. The giveaway is posts like yours which have nothing to do with the point, yet never miss the opportunity to take shots and promote the cloners and copiers over the innovators.

BTW Evolv kept their innovation under wraps because of exactly what happened. The moment they released it, the Chinese got to work ripping it off. And now the Chinese even do false marketing campaigns right from the start.

If you want Evolv to announce its groundbreaking innovations ahead of time, you're going to have to help create an environment where they don't get ripped off immediately. You start by not promoting cloners and ripoff operations.

 

[retird]

I know absolutely nothing about yihi chips, and very little about electronics, so this is just an uneducated guess. Couldn't it be that new/different components are needed? Seems like the most logical answer to me.

Changing components could be a reason...

If joules change in response to the resistance change that occurs with temp change and it can be measured in milliseconds than you will have something that can be monitored to measure theoretical temperatures. If the voltage changes (it does) when achieving certain watts, you could also monitor voltage to determine the theoretical temperature. I admit I haven't thought thru the calculation for joules. Watts are calculated from amps and resistance. Watts over time will give you joules. I am baffled. The resistance is key but possibly something in the complicated calculation is inverted or even perverted and used to determine temp from joules........They are either smarter than the rest of us or this is just marketing flash and sizzle...... I stopped my education with ergs, I think I threw the book at the professor when he introduced joules....

Yep...my knowledge of joules needs help also thus my search continues to try to understand... the "If's" you have are the same ones I have... maybe someone will pop into this thread and help.... I have asked Yihi and a vendor who has used TC and still have no answers to the If's..... trusting that the "vapor will clear" as folks get them and reviewers review them and etc...

 

[zoiDman]

Isn't Joules merely a way of Expressing Watts as a function of Time?

 

[retird]

Isn't Joules merely a way of Expressing Watts as a function of Time?

That's what I thought but there must be more to it.... that's what I am trying to find out.... kinda like the subject of this thread.... Thread: Can any one simplify the YiHi joules temp control...

 

[zoiDman]

That's what I thought but there must be more to it.... that's what I am trying to find out.... kinda like the subject of this thread.... Thread: Can any one simplify the YiHi joules temp control...

I think Yihi did it just so We would make Hundreds of Post and generate Lots of Free Advertising.

LOL

 

[Marc411]

And it appears that there is a group that will denigrate Evolv at any chance. The giveaway is posts like yours which have nothing to do with the point, yet never miss the opportunity to take shots and promote the cloners and copiers over the innovators.

BTW Evolv kept their innovation under wraps because of exactly what happened. The moment they released it, the Chinese got to work ripping it off. And now the Chinese even do false marketing campaigns right from the start.

If you want Evolv to announce its groundbreaking innovations ahead of time, you're going to have to help create an environment where they don't get ripped off immediately. You start by not promoting cloners and ripoff operations.

Dr. g I own the chip, several to be exact I'm just not a shill and want to give an honest opinion. Yihi makes a damn fine chip and didn't rip anything off.

You showing your true colors now because you attacking me personally and don't even have the facts. I purchase and own authentics and support innovation and the right for each individual to make their own choices. There are respected people in the industry discussing some of the very same facts regarding the DNA40 chip that I have posted, mainly my experiences. You pop into every thread that folks discuss their experience and if it's not to your standards go on a rampage.

My experience with the Yihi product and mods have been very positive and I look forward to trying their release of TP. Not a ripped off version as you insinuated but their own innovative twist on TP. My experience with Evolv has not been good and I post about it but I also state that I have three working devices that I use so you do nothing more then troll to promote your agenda and blind support for Evolv.

I've said it to you before and I'll say it again, I'm done responding to you troll.

 

[dr g]

Dr. g I own the chip, several to be exact I'm just not a shill and want to give an honest opinion. Yihi makes a damn fine chip and didn't rip anything off.

Wrong. Yihi is in fact a ripoff operation and has ripped off Evolv technology more than once in the past, and is one of the companies that put out a false marketing campaign in response to Evolv releasing TC.

 

[Eric Auer]

Can we PLEASE get this thread back on track........

Eric

 

[SavePaperVapor]

Can we PLEASE get this thread back on track........

Eric

16 pages and no answer. Educated guesses, but nobody really knows how it works. I'm assuming the thread is dead.

 

[zoiDman]

Wrong. Yihi is in fact a ripoff operation and has ripped off Evolv technology more than once in the past, and is one of the companies that put out a false marketing campaign in response to Evolv releasing TC.

Why don't you Take it Down a Notch?

Sounds like you have been Vaping at High Joules or something.

 

[zoiDman]

16 pages and no answer. Educated guesses, but nobody really knows how it works. I'm assuming the thread is dead.

I think we are going to have to Wait until someone gets their hands on this Chip and can Scope It.

It is supposed to be coming Soon. Right?

 

[Technonut]

Why don't you Take it Down a Notch?

Sounds like you have been Vaping at High Joules or something.

Yes, let's all please keep it down a notch, and on-topic.. Thank You!

 

[SavePaperVapor]

I think we are going to have to Wait until someone gets their hands on this Chip and can Scope It.

It is supposed to be coming Soon. Right?

A matter of days now evidently.

 

[zoiDman]

A matter of days now evidently.

Cool.

Hey here is another On Topic question.

If the Wattage of a Coil Varies in a Time Period, how do we Quantify it?

Average Wattage?

 

[Marc411]

retird sorry for the hack job on the quote, I just wanted the piece on the warranty. It's been edited.

I reached out for Varitube to see if they will release information on the TP and how it works. Not sure if I'll get a response but if I do I will post it here.

 

[retird]

retird sorry for the hack job on the quote, I just wanted the piece on the warranty. It's been edited.

I reached out for Varitube to see if they will release information on the TP and how it works. Not sure if I'll get a response but if I do I will post it here.

That would be great....many here would appreciate it I think (knowing how joules can control temperature)....