Can Burnt Taste Linger In Liquid?

[pufZeppelin]

battery safety is 6-10 sec shutoff (generally)

yes , for sure you can transfer burnt taste in fluid in tank
you need to WASH it all, run HOT tap water on everything (tank,base,old coil)
if your not goofin with coils yet, soak your burnt taste one in PGA (maybe help)

new burnt taste sounds like user error
did you let wick soak long enuff ?
start low Volts and work up slowly ?

give it all a good clean , and start over fresh

 

[vaperature]

I'm a little confused about what dry burning is. Can someone explain dry burning?

 

[vaperature]

battery safety is 6-10 sec shutoff (generally)

yes , for sure you can transfer burnt taste in fluid in tank
you need to WASH it all, run HOT tap water on everything (tank,base,old coil)
if your not goofin with coils yet, soak your burnt taste one in PGA (maybe help)

new burnt taste sounds like user error
did you let wick soak long enuff ?
start low Volts and work up slowly ?

give it all a good clean , and start over fresh

No I didn't do any of that. I'm a stupid newbie so I just jacked up the voltage and took a big puff of yuck. Seriously. Although to my own defense like I said earlier the high voltage was working fine with a different brand of juice so I didn't think anything of it.

 

[vaperature]

Higher ohms. I feel safe with 3 ohms in my cartomisers and carto tanks. That's considered Standard Resisitance (SR)

Evods come with 1.8, so I buy extra 2.2 and 2.8.

So you are saying the higher the voltage, the higher the ohms?

 

[vaperature]

I'm going to run to the store and get some soda. Maybe that will help get this taste out of my mouth. I'll continue this conversation later. Thanks everyone for all the help. It's much appreciated.

 

[smacuser]

So you are saying the higher the voltage, the higher the ohms?

Ohms. Have you seen the Safe Vaping Power Chart (sic)? Hard to read here, easy to look up. It gives the proper guideline for Ohms vs Volts.

 

[acooknamedmike]

For the record, when I got my first VV/VW, and after watching guys on YT vape 1.8ohms at 4+volts with no apparent issues, I cranked up the volts and hit it. Phbbb, burned as hell! Don't know what's up, all I can say is you can't trust everything you see on TV these days. Dumped juice, changed coil and head, and started again. Trust the safe voltage chart instead and ignore the hot-doggers!

 

[smacuser]

For the record, when I got my first VV/VW, and after watching guys on YT vape 1.8ohms at 4+volts with no apparent issues, I cranked up the volts and hit it. Phbbb, burned as hell! Don't know what's up, all I can say is you can't trust everything you see on TV these days. Dumped juice, changed coil and head, and started again. Trust the safe voltage chart instead and ignore the hot-doggers!

Who says learning can('t) be fun?

 

[cmdebrecht]

She was making a joke because I clarified that I meant the head on my shoulders was spinning, not the head in my evod. LOL.

Umm yeah, that's it. The head in your EVOD.

 

[smacuser]

Umm yeah, that's it. The head in your EVOD.

I wonder what Sally would look like all grown up. jk.

Gotta go!

P.S. I like your sig.

 

[Rickajho]

To continue on this train of thought, so that I don't make this mistake again, is there any advice on how to use higher voltages without burning? Lower or higher ohm heads for example? I really enjoyed the vape of the high voltage while it was working before I had this problem with the burning.

Geez, that's a lot of variables to consider. I can't recall if it was the high PG or the high VG liquid that was working at the higher voltage. That's one point in this equation: PG, VG and different flavorings can all be "happy" at different voltages. There is no hard and fast rule about that. You only want to find the voltage that works for any given liquid and it might not be as high a voltage as you think. It's case by case just moving from one liquid to the next alone.

Resistance of the coils is easier to factor for. The lower the resistance, the faster and hotter the coil gets at a lower voltage. When it comes to the Kanger designs I'm of the opinion that none of it really works well at or needs high voltage. It just doesn't. I have a PT coil right now that's metering 2.6 ohms. If I run that thing much higher than 3.6 volts the liquid I'm using goes harsh. You can very quickly reach a point with the Kanger BCC's where you are vaping liquid faster than the wick can absorb it if you push the voltage too high. (As you sorta found out.)

That being said, I won't even buy the 1.8 ohm coils. When those things are new even 3.2 volts can be too much - there's no room to adjust the battery voltage down any further. What are supposed to be 2.2 ohm coils in my last batch all seem to measure higher than that. It's just something to consider when buying coils. New they meter typically around 2.4 ohms and only increase in resistance with use. The bottom line is if you want to run higher voltages with Kanger stuff you need to lean toward the higher resistance coils. I'd suggest at least the 2.2 ohm but you may want to try the 2.5 ohm as well if you can find a place stocking them. I've never gone anywhere near the upper voltage limit of your Twist with Kanger BCC's. Maybe 4.0 volts tops with a 2,2 ohm coil that was overdue for a cleaning. You will still have plenty of voltage "room" to play around with even with the 2.5 ohm coils.

 

[vaperature]

Ohms. Have you seen the Safe Vaping Power Chart (sic)? Hard to read here, easy to look up. It gives the proper guideline for Ohms vs Volts.

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OK will do that thanks

 

[vaperature]

Geez, that's a lot of variables to consider. I can't recall if it was the high PG or the high VG liquid that was working at the higher voltage. That's one point in this equation: PG, VG and different flavorings can all be "happy" at different voltages. There is no hard and fast rule about that. You only want to find the voltage that works for any given liquid and it might not be as high a voltage as you think. It's case by case just moving from one liquid to the next alone.

Resistance of the coils is easier to factor for. The lower the resistance, the faster and hotter the coil gets at a lower voltage. When it comes to the Kanger designs I'm of the opinion that none of it really works well at or needs high voltage. It just doesn't. I have a PT coil right now that's metering 2.6 ohms. If I run that thing much higher than 3.6 volts the liquid I'm using goes harsh. You can very quickly reach a point with the Kanger BCC's where you are vaping liquid faster than the wick can absorb it if you push the voltage too high. (As you sorta found out.)

That being said, I won't even buy the 1.8 ohm coils. When those things are new even 3.2 volts can be too much - there's no room to adjust the battery voltage down any further. What are supposed to be 2.2 ohm coils in my last batch all seem to measure higher than that. It's just something to consider when buying coils. New they meter typically around 2.4 ohms and only increase in resistance with use. The bottom line is if you want to run higher voltages with Kanger stuff you need to lean toward the higher resistance coils. I'd suggest at least the 2.2 ohm but you may want to try the 2.5 ohm as well if you can find a place stocking them. I've never gone anywhere near the upper voltage limit of your Twist with Kanger BCC's. Maybe 4.0 volts tops with a 2,2 ohm coil that was overdue for a cleaning. You will still have plenty of voltage "room" to play around with even with the 2.5 ohm coils.

Tomorrow the new Kanger ProTank 3 comes out. It has double coils, two 4 ohms factoring in together at 2 ohms. So you're basically saying I shouldn't even bother using a VV battery with that since 2 ohms would be too low for any higher voltage?

 

[vaperature]

OK, based on that Safe Vaping Power Chart , I really over did it using 2.2 ohm coil at 4.8 voltage. LOL. No wonder. By the way, Skittles gets the burnt taste out of your mouth lickity split.

 

[vaperature]

Just to follow up, after getting the taste out of my mouth, the new liquid tasted better but still had a slight funk to it. I did what someone above recommended, completely washed out everything, washed out the tank with hot water, washed the head and then dry burned it and only now is it back to normal. So I guess we have an answer here. After a massive burn like that the only answer is to dump the juice and wash it all out otherwise the burnt taste will still be in there.

 

[wheezal]

Just to follow up, after getting the taste out of my mouth, the new liquid tasted better but still had a slight funk to it. I did what someone above recommended, completely washed out everything, washed out the tank with hot water, washed the head and then dry burned it and only now is it back to normal. So I guess we have an answer here. After a massive burn like that the only answer is to dump the juice and wash it all out otherwise the burnt taste will still be in there.

i say go the other way....burn some newspaper, copper salts, and animal fur...dump them into your tank and let that simmer!

just pile on moar burnt tastes! eventually, seeing that everything is cylcial...ciclycal...cilimical....seeing that everything is circular, you'll eventually pass maximum burnt flavor and come back to normal tasting stuffs!

 

[Ref Minor]

Always start low and slowly dial up until you get the slight burnt taste then nudge it down a notch.

 

[Myrany]

Mirany's Instructions for VV for the new user

1. Start at the lowest setting your device allows and take a vape.
2. Crank it up one notch and take a vape.
Did you have any foul taste (burnt or otherwise unpleasant)?
If yes then crank it down a notch and vape at that setting
If no then go to #2

You want to use highest setting possible with no foul taste of any sort in most cases. There is no hard and fast rule for what that setting should be. It varies alot with personal preference, resistance, type of device and individual juice.

 

[Mark Anthony]

I usually don't have the burnt flavor linger in my juice since as soon as I get a burnt hit I'll pull the coils out and replace and clean the burnt one if it is still good enough to clean and re-use. But if you don't have that option to swap it out fast then maybe it can tarnish the flavor a bit.

 

[vaperature]

Mirany's Instructions for VV for the new user

1. Start at the lowest setting your device allows and take a vape.
2. Crank it up one notch and take a vape.
Did you have any foul taste (burnt or otherwise unpleasant)?
If yes then crank it down a notch and vape at that setting
If no then go to #2

You want to use highest setting possible with no foul taste of any sort in most cases. There is no hard and fast rule for what that setting should be. It varies alot with personal preference, resistance, type of device and individual juice.

Haven't cranked it up beyond 4 since. Too afraid. LOL.