Can vaping cause cancer

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    Yeah, I thought she seemed more "Keeping up with the (gag) Kardashians" than medical school. :facepalm: Maybe Gutfeld picked her because her "arguments" (which seemed far more "rote parroting" than actual arguments) were so transparently stupid.

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    lol, now that's funny :) " keeping up with the Kardashians" lol ............ Yes, lots of things put out by big media is scripted and this is more than likely another example of it.
     
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    AndriaD

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    vaping causes psychological disorders in public health officials. The first symptom is they become disoriented and start talking nonsense about electronic cigarettes. The treatment is to put them in real jobs that don't depend on taxes.

    Actually a far better treatment would be to put them in the unemployment office, trying desperately to keep enough money coming in to buy groceries, and being told that their "benefits have expired"... thanks to those "austerity measures" the crooked lawmakers have enacted.

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    It's been proven that people who obsessively worry about some things are far more likely than the general population to have acute problems with those things.
    Stress, fear, worry, and a gloom-n-doom attitude have probably killed as many people throughout history as any specific, ie 'quantifiable' disease. Not to make light of any human disease condition, but sometimes the a priori fear is more debilitating in the greater sense. The prehistoric caveman who was so terrified of the wooly mammoth that he wouldn't leave his cave to hunt for his food likely died of starvation.

    Disclaimer: My doctoral studies were in Architecture rather than Medicine. ;)
     

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    It's been proven that people who obsessively worry about some things are far more likely than the general population to have acute problems with those things.
    Stress, fear, worry, and a gloom-n-doom attitude have probably killed as many people throughout history as any specific, ie 'quantifiable' disease. Not to make light of any human disease condition, but sometimes the a priori fear is more debilitating in the greater sense. The prehistoric caveman who was so terrified of the wooly mammoth that he wouldn't leave his cave to hunt for his food likely died of starvation.

    Disclaimer: My doctoral studies were in Architecture rather than Medicine. ;)

    I go along with that idea, in a more mystical "woo woo" sort of way -- "That which I have feared has come upon me" -- because you drew it to yourself with the power of your fear, you gave it so much energy, just fearing it. :facepalm:

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    Kinda' where I was going with it Andria.:)
    Caution that becomes paralyzing fear is not an acceptable defense mechanism for a human. It works sometimes for 'possums, but I still see a lot of them dead in the middle of the road too.

    Nothing is 'risk-free', and every action has consequences. You weigh it all out, and then you live your life and have the most fun that you can without hurting others.
    On my death certificate I want the cause to read: excessive smiling and old age.:D
     

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    Kinda' where I was going with it Andria.:)
    Caution that becomes paralyzing fear is not an acceptable defense mechanism for a human. It works sometimes for 'possums, but I still see a lot of them dead in the middle of the road too.

    This is the exact reason that the "fight or flight" reaction is so absolutely instantaneous, and is often irrational -- it's meant to get you moving when there is something to actually fear, but many times the feared things are not really so fearsome -- but if you stand there engaging in rational, reasoned cogitation, you may get eaten. :D This is why I often say that humans are just as stupid and irrational as we have evolved to be, and why so many have such a knee-jerk negative reaction to "higher" thought -- it really *can* get you dead, if engaged in at an inopportune time -- like if there's a train bearing down on you, you jump, you don't stand there trying to figure out just how far away it is. Of course the reflexes evolved some million or more years before trains, but those reflexes still work, whether you're trying to escape a galloping wooly mammoth or a freight train. But most things that people fear nowadays are far less concrete, and really need more of that "higher" rational thought -- which takes a little longer; meanwhile the stress of suppressing the fight or flight response is eating modern man alive.


    Nothing is 'risk-free', and every action has consequences. You weigh it all out, and then you live your life and have the most fun that you can without hurting others.

    On my death certificate I want the cause to read: excessive smiling and old age.:D

    I'm kinda hoping for a massive heart attack -- a few moments of pain, "bye honey, love you!" bang, outta here, none of that dying by inches in a hospital bed crap for me! :D

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    I vape with no nicotine liquid, can this cause cancer?
    No it can't, recently in the last few weeks scientists claimed that without nicotine in e liquid it is impossible to get cancer. Even with nicotine they said the chances are very low compared to ciggarettes and that it is still easier to get cancer from the sun than it is ecigs due to the very low carcinogen count in e liquids.
     

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    No it can't, recently in the last few weeks scientists claimed that without nicotine in e liquid it is impossible to get cancer. Even with nicotine they said the chances are very low compared to ciggarettes and that it is still easier to get cancer from the sun than it is ecigs due to the very low carcinogen count in e liquids.

    Can you give us a source for that report?
     
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    Can you give us a source for that report?
    My source is the website for the university of Kentucky research lab. It's not been widely talked about because yes you can still get cancer but the chance is far lower than you would expect. Nicotine is one of the weakest carcinogens in ciggarettes. When vaping only one carcinogen the odds of developing cancer are very similar to someone who doesn't smoke. Why don't you redo your biology classes. I can promise I'm not making this .... up. Cancer developes depending on the strength of the immune system in a human. That's why a lot of kids and elderly people get cancer. Cancer is a cell in all humans body's. When something causes those cells to multiply and the immune system cannot fight it off your body gets taken over by the cells.
     

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    No it can't, recently in the last few weeks scientists claimed that without nicotine in e liquid it is impossible to get cancer. Even with nicotine they said the chances are very low compared to ciggarettes and that it is still easier to get cancer from the sun than it is ecigs due to the very low carcinogen count in e liquids.

    Impossible is a Strong word.

    And seeing that there is No Standardized make-up to e-Liquids, an e-Cigarette, or the Way someone using e-Liquids/e-Cigarettes, if think I would Refrain from using Absolutes.
     
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    No it can't, recently in the last few weeks scientists claimed that without nicotine in e liquid it is impossible to get cancer.
    The presence or lack of nicotine probably has nearly zero effect on the chances of getting cancer.
    So that statement is really strange.
     
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