I forgot that you know everybody.
It's just that coil building and re-wicking is so complicated! I learned on a T3S.
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Can We Stop Recommending the Subtank/Atlantis to New Vapers Please? IT'S NOTHING LIKE A CIGARETTE
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I forgot that you know everybody.
It's just that coil building and re-wicking is so complicated! I learned on a T3S.
I forgot that you know everybody.
Seems there are quite a few posts lately about new vapers having difficulty with coil building and wicking... But I guess quite a few means everybody, so everyone is having trouble...
What do you expect, when one recommends 150 watt box mods, RTAs and sub ohm builds? Not just more problems, but the danger level has increased, as have the chances of them giving up...
I've done more dangerous things than vaping. I don't recall recommending 150 watt box mods. The danger level is increased with anybody using one. Personally I don't recommend super cloud vapin to anybody. I don't hear anyone recommending to somebody wantin to get off cigarettes to go buy cotton, wire, an RTA and a 150w box mod. Who said that?
I don't write down who says what. There have been a number of such threads...
I don't care who says what on a number of such threads. I don't even care that you can't remember who recommended the sub ohm "cloudomizers" on such threads. I thought the focus was on this thread. I'll just take your word for it.
I'm not sayin people don't recommend 150w mods to new people, frequently or infrequently. I haven't seen it done in this thread frequently or even once. I've read people say that they have witnessed it done. You can argue any point on anything pro or con with a back-up because people and the world are so diverse that anything and everything has happened or is possible. But bottom line SavePaperVapor didn't recommend a 150w mod with a sub ohm build. Timer is on
I'm not sayin people don't recommend 150w mods to new people, frequently or infrequently. I haven't seen it done in this thread frequently or even once. I've read people say that they have witnessed it done. You can argue any point on anything pro or con with a back-up because people and the world are so diverse that anything and everything has happened or is possible. But bottom line SavePaperVapor didn't recommend a 150w mod with a sub ohm build. Timer is on
I didn't say he did. He saw what I see frequently...
I'm not sayin people don't recommend 150w mods to new people, frequently or infrequently. I haven't seen it done in this thread frequently or even once. I've read people say that they have witnessed it done. You can argue any point on anything pro or con with a back-up because people and the world are so diverse that anything and everything has happened or is possible. But bottom line SavePaperVapor didn't recommend a 150w mod with a sub ohm build. Timer is on
For the record I also do not recommend 150 watt box mods and low ohm RDA's to newbies... It's just bad for business.
For the record, I don't either. Nor any of my friends. Nor anyone I know.
I'm only advocating Safe vaping. Not pointing fingers or passing judgement.
I forgot that you know everybody.
Me too, from seeing a pictorial of rebuilding a Mini PT II. I was told that if I could build coils in those, I could handle a Kayfun easy-peasy -- and it's true; building for a Kayfun is a piece of cake next to those tiny heads!!! And so much more satisfying!!!
Andria
Danger level increase when going from ego to regulated box?
Whatever you're partying with, save some for me.
Tapatyped
THIS EXACTLY. An ego battery is about the least "safe" device on the market today, not to mention unreliable. I myself wouldn't recommend my sig 100 to a new person, but more because I would think that it's too big for a newb to be comfortable with. Other than that, the device itself is ALMOST idiot proof, and they could run just about anything they would ever need to on it.
And to whomever was arguing with stevegmu, don't bother. If it's not a provari and a kayfun, you are doing it wrong. Best to ignore it until it wanders off.
What you all seem to forget is that it's not necessarily about replicating smoking for a smoker trying vaping. It's about replicating the satisfaction and convenience. Where a person starts all depends on what they smoked and how they smoked.
I really wish I never bought an eGo and really feel like I wasted my money in the beginning. Even when I bought my MVP 2 a couple weeks later, I feel that was a waste as well considering its limitations. It served me very well for a few weeks until I outgrew it and even my Nautilus tanks didn't perform very well on it. On the rare occasion that I use it, it's with either the included iClear or a little Kanger eVod tank I have. I'm not trying to bash it since it was a good device by 2013 standards but this day on age, any vapor who isn't living under a rock would quickly outgrow it.
Had I just bought a good box to begin with, I would have saved myself a good $100 even if I wasn't yet using it to its potential.
I think at the very minimum, I would recommend a 30w regulated mod. As long as you aren't using some shady Chinese battery, you should have very few safety concerns. The price of something like an iPV Mini is very comparable to these standard mods that people think newbies should be using and even if you never use a Sub-Tank or an RDA, who cares. Just because the device is capable, it doesn't mean you have to use it. For you got yourself a nice, well constructed device for around $50. I By the time you buy an eGo that isn't some cheap piece of crap, you will spend about the same. Hell. Halos Triton system costs $65.
If I had it to do all over again tbough I would have just bought a 100 or 150 watt device from the start. While I'll probably never use even close to those watts, I would be more appreciative of the battery life then I am with my iPV2S which I paid more for then I could have got a 100w Sigelei. We have this perception not to buy any greater then we think we will use. But what I failed to do in that decision was take into account the battery life of a mod that only uses a single 18650.
And it's best to ignore Steve. The guy likes to argue just for the sake of debate. I took the bait yesterday and really wish I hadn't.
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I'll have to admit I just do it for the entertainment. I got his number quite a few pages back. If there was a way to delete this thread from What's New on My Posts, I would. Just can't seem to resist the urge to come back when it's right there in front of me. Plus I have been opened up to thinking differently about recommending vape gear to new people. I've gone from, for the most part, recommending ego kits to recommending 30w disposable reg mods with a good tank. To me they are to the ego type as the ego type were to the cigalike. And just as safe and easy to use, even the sub ohm tanks with replaceable coils. I believe the 30 to 50w mod class of vaping will dominate the vaping scene anyway. I wouldn't recommend anything more than getting good flavor and decent vape because we still don't know what this is doing to us. It's not like the more the merrier. And it's not realistic to think everybody is looking for a maximum hit for all day vaping.
Plus I have been opened up to thinking differently about recommending vape gear to new people. I've gone from, for the most part, recommending ego kits to recommending 30w disposable reg mods with a good tank. To me they are to the ego type as the ego type were to the cigalike. And just as safe and easy to use, even the sub ohm tanks with replaceable coils. I believe the 30 to 50w mod class of vaping will dominate the vaping scene anyway. I wouldn't recommend anything more than getting good flavor and decent vape because we still don't know what this is doing to us. It's not like the more the merrier. And it's not realistic to think everybody is looking for a maximum hit for all day vaping.
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This is true, which is why recommending high powered mods with RTAs to new vapers is s joke...
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