Can We Stop Recommending the Subtank/Atlantis to New Vapers Please? IT'S NOTHING LIKE A CIGARETTE

[John Lever]

I haven't read of smoking being a hobby or people building and buying various smokes.

Never heard of Cigar Afficionado?


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[granolaboy]

Amoret, I've got several friends who have vaped longer than me still using Twists and VV3's. They say that's all they want and need.

Same here. Blows my mind that some would still be vaping a spinner with a carto after 2-3 years, but I have a few friends that have...

 

[Fir3b1rd]

dont forget the boiled crawfish... got to have boiled crawfish

And the corn, garlic, potatoes and sausages!

 

[Fir3b1rd]

Same here. Blows my mind that some would still be vaping a spinner with a carto after 2-3 years, but I have a few friends that have...

as do I, and at the same timr set up a budfy at work with a vsdna30 and atlantis to start, his girl setup wih a subtank mini and istik30w

They both made the switch fine.... I'm a bad man

 

[Oberon75]

I started vaping before MVPs, glass clearos, and subohming. I started with a Blu because I didn't know other things existed, yet. Per this forum, I progressed to an Ego Twist, then a ProVari. For me, cigalikes and tobacco ejuice were not what I wanted, as I didn't need to be reminded of cigarettes.

However, I wouldn't tell a newbie to get a Sub Tank either. What I generally recommend is an iStick and a Nautilus.

While I wouldn't tell a newbie to get an Atlantis, I would recommend a mod that's capable of running an Atlantis just in case. Considering there's not much of a price difference between the 20w and 30w mods, I would say go with 30w just in case you need it. Maybe even higher if the price is right.

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[DC2]

Could we stop assuming that what we liked when we started vaping is what everyone else wants?

There is absolutely no chance of that ever happening.
And until that happens, which will be never, we will have threads like this popping up all the time.

And not one bit of difference will it make.
Because the wheels, they just keep on turning.

 

[Bikenstein]

And Proud Mary Keep On Burnin...................

 

[Oberon75]

Never heard of Cigar Afficionado?


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And if you ever visited a pipe or RYO cigarette board, you will see that people add flavoring and spirits to their tobacco blends and even mix tobaccos to create a new blend

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[TopCatJimi]

When I recommend something to a "new" vapor .. istick 30 is what I tell them .. I am lucky to have known so many smokers that I was able to sell most of my useless ego and protank3's and mini 3's and aspire tanks .. even sold my mvp 2.0 for exactly what I paid for it after using it 4-5 months .. but seriously .. istick 30w and a protank 3 is what I recommend .. and I even teach them how to rebuild their own coils .. gives them options to upgrade to subtanks without having to buy another battery .. eBay is where I buy everything!

 

[tj99959]

And if you ever visited a pipe or RYO cigarette board, you will see that people add flavoring and spirits to their tobacco blends and even mix tobaccos to create a new blend

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And read the reviews ... don't forget the reviews
Tobacco Reviews - Pipe Tobacco Reviews - LuxuryTobaccoReviews.com

 

[Paramaniac413]

When I recommend something to a "new" vapor .. istick 30 is what I tell them .. I am lucky to have known so many smokers that I was able to sell most of my useless ego and protank3's and mini 3's and aspire tanks .. even sold my mvp 2.0 for exactly what I paid for it after using it 4-5 months .. but seriously .. istick 30w and a protank 3 is what I recommend .. and I even teach them how to rebuild their own coils .. gives them options to upgrade to subtanks without having to buy another battery .. eBay is where I buy everything!

This is the only thing I wish I had started with instead of my eGo, although I am glad I started with the eGo as I do still use it, but out of all of my stuff, I use my iStick 30w the most.

 

[beckdg]

I say give them the cheapest mech clone you can find, the cheapest dripper, some catch fire batteries, some 22g kanthal, and tell them good luck!

No need for a resistance checker. If it catches fire, you're doing it wrong.



or give them your old egos and protanks

ya know...

16 Ga is readily available.

just sayin'

 

[mcclintock]

I had a point but don't think you got it. It cost a whopping $23 bucks for 2 volt batteries a charger and 5 blank cartridges. The premium quality juice was 9.40/60ml (SHUDDER )and it hits as close to a cigarette as I've seen. A fine hit. Plenty of vape and flavor. Thinkin about getting a couple myself for tobaccos. A lot of vapors think cigalikes cost as much or more than their "nice" hardware and their expensive "Premium" juice. But they spend as much on a 30ml bottle of juice as she has in 2 rigs. I chose Volt because I didn't want to buy prefilled cartridges of unknown juice. I had more confidence in the company I use. A subtank for her? you're jokin, right?

Didn't realize it wasn't prefilled, between implication she can't fill them and getting tired of having to research before posting. That is impressive. I figured someone could get it right ... A device of moderate goals that works as intended is never "crap", even if it's not what you are looking for.

And if you ever visited a pipe or RYO cigarette board, you will see that people add flavoring and spirits to their tobacco blends and even mix tobaccos to create a new blend

That's true, but I've been surprised to find 2 of my friends now say they never liked the taste of cigs and smoke just for the nicotine -- and one of those still smoke. For every tobacco aficionado, there's at least 10 smokers that don't like to think about smoking at all, and a lot of them don't want to think about what replaces it either.

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I'm starting to think that, in vaping, whatever you have experienced, someone else has experienced the opposite. I'm also considering that whatever you tried first didn't work because it was first, etc.

 

[Katya]

I am lucky to have known so many smokers that I was able to sell most of my useless ego and protank3's and mini 3's and aspire tanks .. even sold my mvp 2.0 for exactly what I paid for it after using it 4-5 months ..

Oh, well. Never mind.

Carry on.

 

[The Cloud Minder]

I don't know if anyone has recommended it yet, but all new vapers should get a Subtank/Atlantis IMMEDIATELY.

 

[Bikenstein]

I don't know if anyone has recommended it yet, but all new vapers should get a Subtank/Atlantis IMMEDIATELY.

Why? It's nothing like a cigarette..........

 

[The Cloud Minder]

Why? It's nothing like a cigarette..........

Exactly!

 

[Bikenstein]

Exactly!

Well, I guess it's settled then.

 

[DC2]

I think the most important thing, which was mentioned earlier is to listen, or in our case, ask questions like what are you looking for.

And that is something you almost NEVER see in the thousands of threads where people are throwing out all kinds of advice to newbies.
It is something that has bothered me for years, but I have given up hope that it will ever change.

 

[tj99959]

This is the only thing I wish I had started with instead of my eGo, although I am glad I started with the eGo as I do still use it, but out of all of my stuff, I use my iStick 30w the most.

Well they didn't make an Istick30 in dec. of 2014, so I guess you would have been out of luck & stuck with cigarettes.

I still say that with noobs, it isn't about what is the best vape. It's about what is the easiest to learn with.

I learned a lot about vaping with my little eGo, and don't regret getting it at all.
BTW, that little 4 year old eGo is now in the hands of it's 4th noob.