Can we trust the Bible?

[Saintscruiser]

My ex-boss, what a great guy he is, had never met someone with Jewish Heritage. He looked at me and stated like I was royalty, "I've never met a Jewess before." My husband's chiropractor was mesmerized and came over to me and rubbed my arms saying, "Oh please let some of your blessing rub off on me." You have to remember I live in the Bible Belt and I love it. Every true Christian I know supports Israel 200%, although, I do know of a few who lean towards the Palestinian side. They don't know the full story, and I try to explain it, but they never seem to get it. Case in point......Jimmy Carter. Professes to be a Christian, but sides with the Palestinians. I haven't figured that one out, yet.....Mr. Does A Playboy interview and talks about 'lusting' after women. What was he thinking.

Funny story and it's true. My son had gone to college and apparently ordered a subscription to Playboy. Well, they sent his first issue to my house, instead of his college address. I was terribly embarrassed. I called him up and ripped a new one. What could he say, except that he was sorry. My husband and I tried to burn it in the BBQ grill. Those glossy pages don't burn well, in all honesty. Not long afterward, he called to cancel the subscription and the reason was....."YOU SENT IT TO MY MOTHER'S ADDRESS!!!!!" He got his money back, or so he said. I thought it was rather funny afterwards. How stupid!

 

[LisaLisa]

Ok question, what's the difference between a christian and a messianic jew? Isn't it the same thing?

 

[LisaLisa]

Funny story and it's true. My son had gone to college and apparently ordered a subscription to Playboy. Well, they sent his first issue to my house, instead of his college address. I was terribly embarrassed. I called him up and ripped a new one. What could he say, except that he was sorry. My husband and I tried to burn it in the BBQ grill. Those glossy pages don't burn well, in all honesty. Not long afterward, he called to cancel the subscription and the reason was....."YOU SENT IT TO MY MOTHER'S ADDRESS!!!!!" He got his money back, or so he said. I thought it was rather funny afterwards. How stupid!

LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That will teach him! Too funny!

 

[HyOnLyph]

A Messianic Jew is the term given to a person who is a Jew by heritage (and possibly earlier religion) who is also a believer in Christ.
A Jew who believes that the Messiah has come in the person of Jesus. Most Christians who understand the promises of Abraham to the Jews, view them as "doubly blessed".

Ok question, what's the difference between a christian and a messianic jew? Isn't it the same thing?

 

[blondeambition3]

Ok question, what's the difference between a christian and a messianic jew? Isn't it the same thing?

Yes, it is exactly the same thing

Hy gave the precise definition and I'm agreeing

 

[Saintscruiser]

A Messianic Jew is the term given to a person who is a Jew by heritage (and possibly earlier religion) who is also a believer in Christ.
A Jew who believes that the Messiah has come in the person of Jesus. Most Christians who understand the promises of Abraham to the Jews, view them as "doubly blessed".

Right on the money. (Now why did I use that phrase???!!!) I can remember when my ex got orders for Germany and Daddy just got all upset...Mom too, but not as bad as he did. He said, "You don't know how a Jewish Daddy feels about this!" My mom answered, "And you don't know how a gentile Mother feels about this!" I said, "Whoa whoa whoa! Can the half-breed say something???!!!"

When Daddy's sister would come to visit, she was always open to going to church with us. She loved the people and loved to socialize but she said, "All they talk about is Jesus...nothing else." We tried talking with her and she wasn't open to it. Her husband had given her a gold budda necklace that she always wore. We bought her a Billy Graham book so she felt 'safe on the trip home since she was wearing her necklace and carried Billy Graham in her lap." We truly tried and got nowhere. Many Jewish people do what they do because 'it's tradition!' But, they don't know why and they aren't staunch in their faith except for 'it's tradition.' That is a shame, because they rarely give their attention to Christians and to them, all Christians are Catholic.(No offense to Catholics.) There is a difficult road for Jews for Jesus to witness to them, but they don't give up. They don't get discouraged. They just trudge right along. And, that is why I support them financially, as I'm not able to get out and do this work.

 

[LisaLisa]

I wonder if messianic jews celebrate christmas and easter?

 

[Shadowtao]

I am not knocking the bible ok. If you believe it was written indirectly by god, grand, it was.
Every single one of the many around were so written. Take your choice, after all if god did not want us to have such choice he would surely not have inspired so many different versions.

 

[blondeambition3]

I am not knocking the bible ok. If you believe it was written indirectly by god, grand, it was.
Every single one of the many around were so written. Take your choice, after all if god did not want us to have such choice he would surely not have inspired so many different versions.

I understand your statement SHadowtao, but if that's the case and all holy books came from God and all paths lead to Heaven, then why is there a Hell? (To remain empty?)

I'd like to ask you a couple of questions out of curiosity;

Have you ever sinned? (lied, stole, committed adultery, lusted with your eyes?)

Do all of these 'other' Bibles or holy Books have the 'ten commandments' or offer a Savior to cover us for our Sins?

 

[eHuman]

It is Satan that wants us to have "so much choice". God wants us to choose "The One".

 

[HyOnLyph]

Actually, If I understand correctly... other religions believe that they have writings written by a person to direct people to god/enlightenment etc.
Christians believe that the Bible was God-breathed. This is a moot point if one does not believe in a personal intimate God who sent his son to pay the price for the sins of all mankind.

The difference seems to be that one way... mankind can work their way through life to earn their place in the afterlife or future lives (what we might consider to be the wide path).

The other way, God loves us all so much and so intimately and with such holy passion, that he made a way for us to be with Him only by believing in His act of love... the person of Jesus Christ.

The question for a person who is not a Christian, isn't whether or not the Bible is true. The question for you is, can you believe in and accept such an amazing gift of love from a perfect Father/Creator ? If it is possible for you to believe in such a selfless act of love, then simply tell God so.

I am not knocking the bible ok. If you believe it was written indirectly by god, grand, it was.
Every single one of the many around were so written. Take your choice, after all if god did not want us to have such choice he would surely not have inspired so many different versions.

 

[HyOnLyph]

I wonder if messianic jews celebrate christmas and easter?

Some do. Many celebrate the Passover during Easter and they celebrate other Jewish Holidays as well. Of course, I know some non-Jewish Christians who love to celebrate Passover too. The Seder (say-der) is really a profound celebration meal during Passover. It's quite holy.

 

[blondeambition3]

Some do. Many celebrate the Passover during Easter and they celebrate other Jewish Holidays as well. Of course, I know some non-Jewish Christians who love to celebrate Passover too. The Seder (say-der) is really a profound celebration meal during Passover. It's quite holy.

The Seder is my favorite and I do observe it.... as best I can and with my limited abilities....

 

[Saintscruiser]

I wonder if messianic jews celebrate christmas and easter?

Sure they do! They believe that Jesus Christ is the Only Son of God and that He came to earth to cover the sins of the people with His precious blood, died and rose on the 3rd day. They are Christians, but their heritage is Hebrew. They have the best of both worlds.....chosen people and Jesus as their Savior and King.

 

[Vidi]

It's not just "a book", it's God's Word, His guidebook for people.

Which version? Which translation? Which sect?

Gods word isnt in a book, its written on your heart. The book itself is not divine, but you are treating it as such when you call it Gods Word.

 

[Southern Gent]

Which version? Which translation? Which sect?

Gods word isnt in a book, its written on your heart. The book itself is not divine, but you are treating it as such when you call it Gods Word.

 

[blondeambition3]

Move over SG! ... and no hoggin' the remote!

 

[chimney55]

Gods word isnt in a book, its written on your heart. The book itself is not divine, but you are treating it as such when you call it Gods Word.

Jeremiah 17:9 9 The heart is deceitful above all things
and beyond cure.
Who can understand it?

Romans 2:15 15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.)

The requirements of the law are written on our hearts, not the complete pronouncements of God. And I agree, the Bible is a book and should not in and of itself be revered. Most of us respect it because it contains what we need to know about God. Versions? Sects? Which ones are you familiar with?

 

[Saintscruiser]

Which version? Which translation? Which sect?

Gods word isnt in a book, its written on your heart. The book itself is not divine, but you are treating it as such when you call it Gods Word.

God's Word is most definitely in a Book....it's called The Holy Bible. I treat the actual book with dignity, and I have in the past hugged and kissed it. And no, I don't smoke wacky tobacky. Which translation? The one you can understand and work towards the King James Version. The Holy Bible was written by God, given to man to pen. It's a book of instruction, history, praise, Jesus' Family Tree, comfort, love, acceptance, truth, and 50,000 other things I can't think of now.

 

[Southern Gent]

God's Word is most definitely in a Book....it's called The Holy Bible. I treat the actual book with dignity, and I have in the past hugged and kissed it. And no, I don't smoke wacky tobacky. Which translation? The one you can understand and work towards the King James Version. The Holy Bible was written by God, given to man to pen. It's a book of instruction, history, praise, Jesus' Family Tree, comfort, love, acceptance, truth, and 50,000 other things I can't think of now.

Could you please tell me what #23,239--42,976 and 17,596 are?