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Canadian Supplier Questions and Answers ONLY..NO CHAT

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CellWho

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Cool, what's important is that you get what you want and have a positive experience.

I thought it was bad form because electronic-cigz was mentioned and then he talked about the sub par pcc, and they sell a 401 pcc. It didn't seem like a coincidence.

Thanks, I have seen nothing but good reviews about dealing with electronic-cigz I think I will be ordering from them today or tomorrow. I don't think he was implying the ones that electronic-cigz is selling are bad. He actually recommend them over the other version. I believe he was just advising caution. After a little looking around, there was some reason to be worried. Although it does seem to not effect the "smart" PCC's.
Can_supplier has been an excellent vendor to deal with as well.
 

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Cool, what's important is that you get what you want and have a positive experience.

I thought it was bad form because electronic-cigz was mentioned and then he talked about the sub par pcc, and they sell a 401 pcc. It didn't seem like a coincidence.

Sort of off-topic here but I would like to comment on Canadian Suppliers. Of the four I have dealt with all have excellent service and the products are good: electronic-cigz, canvape, happyvaper and vapables.

 

Can_supplier

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As for Can_supplier...next time I would think twice before implying that another supplier is selling sub par hardware. Very bad form sir, very bad form.

Whooaaa hold on CellWho...

I was trying my best not to mention another supplier, so it seems you took what I said the wrong way...

There are 2 type of 401 PCC's.. There is a cheap version I can order, which is crap. Then there is a version which I called the "smart" PCC that the other supplier carries. I mentioned that a) I can't get it b) it was the one that works unlike the cheap china one..

I hope that clears it up...
 

CellWho

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electronic-cigz was mentioned in the two posts above yours, so I figured that was who you were talking about. Very well, my bad.

Looks like the "smart" PCC is manufactured by smoore, and you are selling the M401. Are your units not genuine smoore?




Whooaaa hold on CellWho...

I was trying my best not to mention another supplier, so it seems you took what I said the wrong way...

There are 2 type of 401 PCC's.. There is a cheap version I can order, which is crap. Then there is a version which I called the "smart" PCC that the other supplier carries. I mentioned that a) I can't get it b) it was the one that works unlike the cheap china one..

I hope that clears it up...
 

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I was indirectly talking about the other supplier but the positive not negative comment was directed at them. Sorry for making it confusing, its not my intent to bad mouth any other supplier.

My M401 kits and parts are genuine Smoore. Vendors can order them with colours not available outside a special order and with their brand printed on them. Mine are just the stock ones.

Ironically I am working with a manufacture in China to offer a different and less expensive e-cig branded Evapers. Look for that in early to mid January.
 
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Can_supplier

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I don't think there are any in Alberta.

With online ordering the location and shipping, it really doesn't matter who you order from in Canada, as long as the vendor will ship Canada wide as I believe all the vendors do.

Some vendors charge a flat rate shipping Canada wide, so you don't have to worry about any extra cost with shipping.

The distance will only add a day to two to the shipping time, so that a vendor on the other side of the country might get an order there quicker, by promptly filling the order, than one in the same province who sits on the order for a day.

Placing your order so that there are enough business days for it to arrive before a weekend or holiday will greatly increase the speed in which you get your order.

Regards,
Rob
 

Happy Jack

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Do any of the Canadian Suppliers have any plans to stock the mega batts for the 510?

Hey larktdl!

We weren't going to say anything publicly until they arrived... but... since you forced our hand, I guess I'll fess up :cool:

Mega batteries are on their way!!!

We are starting with a very limited supply and these will ONLY be available to Canadians. We are not permitted to sell them internationally, but, for Canucks, we hope to have them on our site within a week or so! :thumbs:

And... if you think that's the only new, exciting product arriving with our next shipment... think again! :p

Mwahahaha!!! :evil:

All the best and Happy Vaping!
Jack
 

CellWho

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My solution is an 401-510 adaptor, so you can run the 401 batt on a 510 atty. They will be in Thursday or Friday.

How's the battery life using a 510 atty on a 401 battery? I have some 401 batteries left over from when I started vaping that don't get any use, and I thought about getting one of the adapters. I figured they wouldn't last very long as the 401 batts are 200mAh and the 510 mega batts are 280mAh.

Given the larger size of the 510 atty and the lower resistance, I would imagen the 401 batteries wouldn't last nearly as long as the megas.

Thoughts?
 

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The 510 batt is 180mAh (I don't beleive that, I think 150mAh would be accurate), and the 401 is 200mAh. From the math that's, a 10% improvement, from results I'll say 25% (which is why I think the 510's are 150). Not a huge difference, but it makes the 510 last just that bit longer.

I'll check into the price tonight, but they should be just a few bucks, might be worth it for you to use up the 401 batts.

And yes you are right the mega will beat the 401 batt and adaptor. I know many of my customers have both, which is really why I will have the adaptors.

Remember the mega batt is about the size of the 801 battery which is 3.4" vs 2.5" for the standard 510 vs 2.7". With the mega, the complete 510 will be as long as an 801 without a cart.

I am biased here because I like a smaller e-cig, and my thinking is if you don't care about size, why not get a mod? That will beat any of the stock style batts and be cheaper in the long run.
 
Hey folks,

Still doing my research and getting my info down. I want 2 kits - one for my father in law and one for me - I am only occasional smoker and he is DIE HARD.

I want something that is most like a real smoke both in size and appearance. He'll want 'smokes' in flavour and I am looking to experiment with all the DIY liquids after a trial period. (low nic for me - and some flavours) It looks like the 401 on most of the canadian dealers sites.. which I want to stick with - I buy a lot of stuff online and hate the border hassles. The 501 or 510? looks a little long and seems to never come in yellow/white...or white/white in an automatic... Do most people just dip with the 401's? or refill the carts?

Can anyone reccommend the best canadian place to get both the kits and the juice - we are gonna refill or mod or whatever to save some coin and make them go further. Is there one place that does it best? or juice from one place - parts from another?

I'm in Ontario so hopefully shipping from Toronto should be a 2-3 day ordeal at worst. Wow - thanks for reading ALL of that - sorry for the questions!

Thanks so much for any input!

Cheers
Telemole73
 

Happy Jack

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Here I go again. Any Canadian suppliers with plans to resell any Janty products?
All I wanted for xmas is the eGo. :)

Hey larktdl!

The eGo IS a product that we are interested in as it fits very well with our line but we don't have any solid plans, yet. Will update you if/when that changes!

Vape Happy!
Jack
 

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Hey folks,

Still doing my research and getting my info down. I want 2 kits - one for my father in law and one for me - I am only occasional smoker and he is DIE HARD.

I want something that is most like a real smoke both in size and appearance. He'll want 'smokes' in flavour and I am looking to experiment with all the DIY liquids after a trial period. (low nic for me - and some flavours) It looks like the 401 on most of the canadian dealers sites.. which I want to stick with - I buy a lot of stuff online and hate the border hassles. The 501 or 510? looks a little long and seems to never come in yellow/white...or white/white in an automatic... Do most people just dip with the 401's? or refill the carts?

Can anyone reccommend the best canadian place to get both the kits and the juice - we are gonna refill or mod or whatever to save some coin and make them go further. Is there one place that does it best? or juice from one place - parts from another?

I'm in Ontario so hopefully shipping from Toronto should be a 2-3 day ordeal at worst. Wow - thanks for reading ALL of that - sorry for the questions!

Thanks so much for any input!

Cheers
Telemole73

Hey Telemole73!

It seems that your questions are directed more at the non-vendors here but, as this post was moved into the Supplier Questions and Answers thread, I assume you want us to respond as well.

I don't think you will be let down by the 510. It is larger than a traditional cigarette but not in a way that you or others will really notice after you use it for a bit. The larger form factor allows the 510 to have a larger battery with enough power to provide better vapour production and throat hit.

We do have an all-white Happy 510 and it comes in automatic but we usually try and dissuade new vapers from purchasing autos for their main vape, for reasons that I can discuss with you or you can ask around about.

Most of us thought we wanted our PVs to look, feel and taste as much like an analog as possible when we were investigating our first kit. It doesn't take long before most new vapers realize that they no longer are interested in that. PVs provide enough similarity to analogs with the hand to mouth action combined with vapour production and/or throat hit to fill the void. I also think it's important to mention that the more your device resembles a cigarette, the more hassles you get when you vape in public.

Feel free to give us a call at 1-888-696-3697 sometime and we can chat. If you're ever in the GTA, we can arrange a place and time to meet and I can give you (and your father-in-law) a bit of a demo. I think it's safe to say that the VAST majority of vapers that purchase a Happy 510 do not regret it!

All the best and Happy Vaping!
Jack
 

Can_supplier

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Now my sales pitch for the M401... Evapers sells both the 510 and the 401

First off I will admit the 510 is a more popular model, and both models you will be happy with, it comes down to a personal choice.

If you are looking for an e-cig that looks like a "real" cigarette, the 401 offers that with the white model. The 510 is simply "painted" white. I can vape on a white 401 in a smoking area and fit right in, it takes someone giving you a second look to notice what you have. One person commented that they were confused why my cigarette was not reducing in length as I smoked it.

On the other hand, I agree with Jack, that after time most vapers do switch to black models. The advantage with a black one is you can vape in places without people telling you to put out your cigarette. Its a personal preference either way. But e-cigs do not last forever. So why not start with what you want now, a one that looks like a real cigarette, and when you need to replace it, replace it with a black one if that is what you want

The M401 and 510 are the smallest useful models on the market, they are both about 100 mm long. The 510 is about 10mm longer than the 401 (not a noticeable difference). They are longer than a traditional cigarette and often new users want something that is the smaller length. Unfortunately if you reduce the length, it greatly reduces the battery life (i.e M402, M403 models) to the point where they are not very useful. I believe the 100mm length is the best compromise between length and battery life. You get used to the longer length over cigarettes really quick.

Speaking of battery life, the 401 beats the 510 by a lot... Its annoying how often you have to charge a 510 batt. With 2 of them, when one goes on me, I'm finding the other one is just charged, or I have to wait a bit for it. This is one of the reasons I prefer the 401.

The 510 is the king of vapor production, as it makes the most. However it does this by running at a very hot temperature. I find that I end up melting the cart filling, and getting a burnt juice taste sometimes. The 401 produces a bit less vapor, but it doesn't burn, and has better flavor.

This could just be me, but I've found my 510 atty fades quicker than 401 attys.

Either model is a good choice, and I use both, but if I could only have one, it would be the 401.

Regards,
Rob
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p.s. shipping in Ontario would take 1-2 business days.
 
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