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A definitive answer from a single member would require a question which is equally comprehensive.

And answering by saying there is no definitive answer isn't a definitive answer either !!.

The OP didn't ask for a "Definitive" answer. The OP is asking about your own individual opinion based on your own experience. So providing an answer which seems painfully obvious to pretty much everyone by saying "there is no definitive answer" isn't pertinent to the original question at all.

Having said that, lighting up another cigarette from the ember of the previous cigarette is what is called "chain smoking".

If a vaper is continuously using their vapourizer then they would be chain vaping.

The amount of puffs required to equal one cigarette would be determined by how much nicotine is in your vapour, nicotine mg's per ml !. So from 1mg per ml right up to 36mg per mil (not many people use more than 36mg per ml) would mean that there are 36 variables. The more nicotine per puff the less puffs needed to equal a single cigarette. The less nicotine per puff the more puffs needed to equal a single cigarette.

Not exactly a difficult question to answer.
 
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Tobacco smoke unlike vapour delivers nicotine in a different way.

Smokers can light up a cigarette and only have a few puffs before extinguishing it. Others could take twice as many puffs and so on. Depending on how a cigarette is smoked would determine how much nicotine may be consumed.

So the OP should be asking themselves "How many puffs does it take me until i finish a cigarette ?".

Those that say there is x amount of nicotine in a cigarette don't take into account the frequency of puffs a smoker may take per cigarette before extinguisting it.
 

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A definitive answer from a single member would require a question which is equally comprehensive.

And answering by saying there is no definitive answer isn't a definitive answer either !!.

The OP didn't ask for a "Definitive" answer. The OP is asking about your own individual opinion based on your own experience. So providing an answer which seems painfully obvious to pretty much everyone by saying "there is no definitive answer" isn't pertinent to the original question at all.

Having said that, lighting up another cigarette from the ember of the previous cigarette is what is called "chain smoking".

If a vaper is continuously using their vapourizer then they would be chain Vaping.

The amount of puffs required to equal one cigarette would be determined by how much nicotine is in your vapour, nicotine mg's per ml !. So from 1mg per ml right up to 36mg per mil (not many people use more than 36mg per ml) would mean that there are 36 variables. The more nicotine per puff the less puffs needed to equal a single cigarette. The less nicotine per puff the more puffs needed to equal a single cigarette.

Not exactly a difficult question to answer.
But how do you smoke a cig? Do you lightly hit it, or hotbox the crap out of it? I've been known to do both depending on my mood and the situation at hand.
What are you using to vape? A dripper at 150 watts is going to deliver something entirely different than say a Kayfun at 11 watts with the same juice.
I remember back when hitting a cartomizer at 12 watts was a "Hot vape"!
How are they taking the vapor in? Are they doing lung hits or mouth to lung, a combination of both, neither? I know people that smoke, but don't inhale, how much nicotine do they get?
That's what the other thread has gone about, there are just too many variables in equipment, juice, personal taste and vaping habits, etc., to even try to guess on what the answer might be.
OP, as I said earlier, you will get a stomach ache, feel nauseous and at worst, throw up. IF you get to the point of throwing up, STOP!!!! But your body will warn you well before then, so NO, it's not dangerous to chain vape, as I've already said.
 
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There are figures out there that suggest how much nicotine is in a cigarette, but they are really useless. How much nicotine your body absorbs can't really be measured. Neither can the amount of nicotine taken in from vaping. Just make sure you are vaping enough to keep the cravings away. You can concentrate on weaning your nicotine if you would prefer when you have broken the cigarette cravings.
 
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But how do you smoke a cig? Do you lightly hit it, or hotbox the crap out of it? I've been known to do both depending on my mood and the situation at hand.
What are you using to vape? A dripper at 150 watts is going to deliver something entirely different than say a Kayfun at 11 watts with the same juice.
I remember back when hitting a cartomizer at 12 watts was a "Hot vape"!
How are they taking the vapor in? Are they doing lung hits or mouth to lung, a combination of both, neither? I know people that smoke, but don't inhale, how much nicotine do they get?
That's what the other thread has gone about, there are just too many variables in equipment, juice, personal taste and vaping habits, etc., to even try to guess on what the answer might be.
OP, as I said earlier, you will get a stomach ache, feel nauseous and at worst, throw up. IF you get to the point of throwing up, STOP!!!! But your body will warn you well before then, so NO, it's not dangerous to chain vape, as I've already said.


Isn't the psychological need for nicotine the same whether it's smoke or vapour ?. The way a person smokes, depending on their mood as you say, could turn out to be the same when vaping. Regardless of how many watts are used or how hot or cool the vapour is, it doesn't change how much nicotine is being consumed daily. A seasoned vaper would, if they aren't consciously lowering their nicotine, deliberately be vaping a similar amount of nicotine one day as they did the day before.

I see it like this. If i smoked thirty cigarettes a day, but now vape five ml of twenty four mg e liquid a day then i could simple divide the five by thirty to find out how much juice is equal to one cigarette, but that just relates to my own nicotine use. I'm not great at maths so i used a calculator and the answer is 0.16666667ml. I could just round that off to 0.17ml. Doesn't that sound reasonable ?. 0.17ml of 24mg juice should contain about the same amount of nicotine as a cigarette. The variables of vaping would equal the variables of smoking, just different for each user. That's where the actual variables are, from person to person !.

Regardless of what device i use, the nicotine i consume should, at the end of the day, be the same amount as any other day, and should also be about equal to how many cigarettes i used to smoke.

Some days i'll use 4mg juice with high power and bigger clouds and alternate with a Kayfun, 24mg etc. On average i should be consuming just as much nicotine as any other day even if i may only be using either one or the other.

Regardless of what type of device a vaper uses tell me this :

Do you on average use the same amount of juice everyday ?. I come across plenty of threads where people will say how much e liquid they get through daily. And everyone seems to have an answer because they moniter their nicotine/juice cunsumption.

For me, 0.17ml of 24mg e liquid is equal to one cigarette.

If you were to calculate your own daily juice/mg consumption and divide it by how many cigarettes you used to smoke you'd find out how much of your own e liquid is equal to one cigarette.

If enough people were to post their own personal figures then after a few 1000 posts we could work out an average.
 
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    In my opinion which may or may not be backed by solid science:
    • breathing anything other than clean air can be less healthy than breathing just plain clean air
    • breathing a large amount of low nicotine juice is less healthy than breathing a small amount of higher nicotine juice
    • our bodies need oxygen to function, generally fresh clean air has lots of oxygen
    personally I'd define "chain vaping" to be much like chain smoking - a constant or continuous action with none or few breaks in between.
     

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    I would say most of us chain vaped when we quit, meaning we rarely put down our vaporizer to help get off cigs. Depending on your Nic level will depend on if you get jittery or have your heart racing. Chain vapers usually have to lower their Nic level to accommodate chain vaping.
    Here, u r clear abt how many cigarettes u smoked per day before and how much liquid u r consuming per day now. So there is no confusion for you because u know that u get more or less same satisfaction with cigarette and Ecigarette a the given rate of consumption.

    However, I can't agree with this because. If other person consumes more eliquid per day, then 1 cigarette will be equivalent to more than what u have calculated.

    Cigarette size is same for everyone and there is no difference as it won't change from person to person. I want to understand how much eliquid can be equivalent to one cigarette. I can't agree with relative theory that u explained

    Don't we know how much nicotine exists per cigarette? If we know this, then my question is answered



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    Isn't the psychological need for nicotine the same whether it's smoke or vapour ?. The way a person smokes, depending on their mood as you say, could turn out to be the same when vaping. Regardless of how many watts are used or how hot or cool the vapour is, it doesn't change how much nicotine is being consumed daily. A seasoned vaper would, if they aren't consciously lowering their nicotine, deliberately be vaping a similar amount of nicotine one day as they did the day before.

    I see it like this. If i smoked thirty cigarettes a day, but now vape five ml of twenty four mg e liquid a day then i could simple divide the five by thirty to find out how much juice is equal to one cigarette, but that just relates to my own nicotine use. I'm not great at maths so i used a calculator and the answer is 0.16666667ml. I could just round that off to 0.17ml. Doesn't that sound reasonable ?. 0.17ml of 24mg juice should contain about the same amount of nicotine as a cigarette. The variables of vaping would equal the variables of smoking, just different for each user. That's where the actual variables are, from person to person !.

    Regardless of what device i use, the nicotine i consume should, at the end of the day, be the same amount as any other day, and should also be about equal to how many cigarettes i used to smoke.

    Some days i'll use 4mg juice with high power and bigger clouds and alternate with a Kayfun, 24mg etc. On average i should be consuming just as much nicotine as any other day even if may only be using either one or the other.

    Regardless of what type of device a vaper uses tell me this :

    Do you on average use the same amount of juice everyday ?. I come across plenty of threads where people will say how much e liquid they get through daily. And everyone seems to have an answer because they moniter their nicotine/juice cunsumption.

    For me, 0.17ml of 24mg e liquid is equal to one cigarette.

    If you were to calculate you own daily juice/mg consumption and divide it by how many cigarettes you used to smoke you'd find out how much of your own e liquid is equal to one cigarette.

    If enough people were to post their own personal figures then after a few 1000 posts we could work out an average.
    I read ur post again. I this ur answer is very close to my question. Thanks

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    Here, u r clear abt how many cigarettes u smoked per day before and how much liquid u r consuming per day now. So there is no confusion for you because u know that u get more or less same satisfaction with cigarette and Ecigarette a the given rate of consumption.

    However, I can't agree with this because. If other person consumes more eliquid per day, then 1 cigarette will be equivalent to more than what u have calculated.

    Cigarette size is same for everyone and there is no difference as it won't change from person to person. I want to understand how much eliquid can be equivalent to one cigarette. I can't agree with relative theory that u explained

    Don't we know how much nicotine exists per cigarette? If we know this, then my question is answered



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    For me I smoked ultra lights, about a pack a day. My Nic level in ejuice was 11-12 mg/ml. Since I was chain vaping I was getting more Nic than what I was smoking, I had to drop my Nic level in afternoon and evening so I could sleep. I had a couple of times of heart racing so I backed off the Nic level and it helped me a lot. Each vaper has to find what works best for him/her to get off the cigs. Depends on what you smoked, full, light or ultralight and how many cigs smoked to how you vape now. Early on in vaping most people can't put it down and vape more than they smoked to wean off cigs.
     

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    Don't we know how much nicotine exists per cigarette? If we know this, then my question is answered

    Actually, it is well-known amount. On average smoker gets 1 mg of nicotine per cigarette.
    Much less is known about how much of nicotine vaper gets from juice. I have seen numbers telling that while vaping body absorbs about 50%-90% of nicotine in juice, but I am not sure they are dependable. It looks like it rather easy for vaper to increase nicotine consumption when switching from smoking to vaping. But it is still much better, then smoking.
     
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